The 640 MEG Shareware Studio 4/The 640 Meg Shareware Studio CD-ROM Volume IV (Data Express)(1994).ISO/fidomail/cdrom.t17

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ent software for the computer? At least a program with
a slide-show and un-cluttered screen capability. (Probably rules
out Windows -- make run faster under DOS.) This is the pits!! One
of the main reasons I went to CD was to use this disk.


... LSD will make your CGA screen display 16.2 million colors
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12

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From: DENNIS HOENICH                         Number: 11753
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/11/94 12:30p
Subj: What Do I Want                          Refer: NONE
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Hi,
        I am thinking about getting a CD ROM in the near future but I have no
idea what I
want. I will break the questions into catagories.

1) CD ROM DRIVES
What are the standards?
Define XA, XA MODE 2, MPC, multi-session, etc.
What are current transfer rates?
What are current or proposed disk formats and capacities?
Any difference between internal and external in terms of speed, features, or
price?
What is difference between single, double, triple spin in terms of transfer
speed?

2) SOUND CARDS
Should I use SCSI interface on a sound card or external controller?
Should SCSI be used or use a propriatary scheme?
Which sound cards seem to work best (in terms of compatability and sound)?
If you use a separate controller, how do you play sound through the sound card?
What is WAVE BLASTER?
How much difference between PAS and SB and should I care which one I get(if one
of these)?

3) DRIVERS
What do I want?
Do you need special drivers for Kodak Photo CDs?
What WINDOWs drivers are needed for different combinations?
Do I need an ASPI compatable controller?
How is DOS6.2 cache? Do I need a separate cache on drive? in software?

4) GENERAL
How well do other OSs handle CD ROMS?
What should I look for in seek times, transfer rates, compatability, etc?
Are there any good packaged sets out there or should I try to buy separates?

I know this is a big list, but I wanted to try to get up to speed to make an
informed
decision. Any help would be appreciated.

                                                        Thanks,
                                                        Dennis Hoenich


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From: ALEX MOTTRAM                           Number: 11754
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/12/94  3:40a
Subj: Fusion 16/Multi CD                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Is anyone else out there running the MediaVision Fusion 16 CDROM package?

I'm wondering if I can daisy chain another drive (or 3) off the ?SCSI?
connector on the ?PAS16? that came with it.

The reason I'm asking is that the manuals that come with it are virtuall
NO HELP at all as their tech section consists of "Put install disk in Drive
A: -- Type INSTALL."  Also, I saw it advertised somewhere in computer shopper
that said "Proprietary 16bit Sound Card" in the description.  Can someone
please enlighten me?

For what it's worth, the CDROM drive that came with it (Sony CDU-31A) has
a "3M J3594-5002 or equivalent" Interface connector. ?

I guess it's time to break down and call mediavision <grin>..

thanks,


Alex Mottram

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From: ALEX MOTTRAM                           Number: 11755
  To: TERRY BLOUNT                             Date: 01/12/94  3:46a
Subj: COC III?                                Refer: NONE
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Terry,

Are there plans for a COCIII?  I wrote you a month or so back after buying
COCII to question about the EDIT/EDITOR / BBS/Business in the master list
file.  What I'm wondering is if you'd like to include the setup program for
GTPower 17.06+ BBS that I wrote on future versions of COC.  (free of charge,
of course..  however I wouldn't turn away a free demo CD or something like
that <g>)..  I'd be happy as a clam just to say that something I wrote was
"published" so to speak.  :)  I figure if it sells a handfull more of CD's,
it's worth the trouble, right?

Thanks,

Alex Mottram

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From: JOE RINEHART                           Number: 11756
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/12/94  6:43a
Subj: !free Cd catalog!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

*********** FREE HUGE CD-ROM DISC & accessories CATALOG!*************
For the largest selection & lowest prices, get our NEW catalog...
If you'd like a printed copy, send your mailing information to us.
CATALOG FREQ: cdlist.zip (over 1,100 cd-rom disc titles available)44k
DESCRIPT FREQ: descript.zip   (about 800 cd-rom disc descriptions)70k
        Internet: [e-mail]
    FidoNet: 1:157/479 - RBBSNet 8:965/13 - KesherNet 18:711/176
Joe Rinehart / config.sys, Inc.    Voice: [phone]  -  24 hours
P.O. Box 27                        Data/Fax: [phone]
Kent, Ohio 44240-0001              >>>INTERNATIONAL ORDERS WELCOME<<<

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From: JOE RINEHART                           Number: 11757
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/12/94  6:43a
Subj: Cd-rom Drives+                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

********* Refurbished  Hitachi Model 3600 CD-ROM DRIVES $130 *********
********* Refurbished  Hitachi Model 3500 CD-ROM DRIVES $120 *********
********* Refurbished SCSI NEC Model 36   CD-ROM DRIVES $130 *********
These units are also available needing refurbished at 50% off!
Catalog of 1,200+ CD-Titles and hardware products available-CDLIST.ZIP
           Internet: [e-mail]
      FidoNet 1:157/479 - RBBSNet 8:965/13 - KesherNet 18:711/176
Joe Rinehart / config.sys, Inc.     Voice: [phone]  -  24 hours
P.O. Box 27                         Data/Fax: [phone]
Kent, Ohio 44240-0001               >>>INTERNATIONAL ORDERS WELCOME<<<

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From: RICHARD MONTOYA                        Number: 11758
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 01/12/94  8:56p
Subj: Re: !free Cd catalog!                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No


 JR> *********** FREE HUGE CD-ROM DISC & accessories CATALOG!*************

Thanks for the catalogs, Joe. I received a second one yesterday. So many
disks to pick from!


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From: JANUSZ SUROWKA                         Number: 11759
  To: AL GOULET                                Date: 01/11/94  3:18p
Subj: Comparison AmigaCD32 vs Panasonic 3DO vs Sega CD  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

AG> Price ($US)     $399                 $700               $399
AG> CPU/Speed       68EC020/14Mhz        ARM60/12.5MHz
AG> 68000/7.5Mhz

These prices are awfully HIGH!!!
and Sega's Motorolla Microprocessor runs at 16 Mhz, I even LOOKED AT THE
MICROPROCESSOR!!!
AG> CD Speed        Double               Double

Lots of BULL, the Sega CD-ROM runs at 150 KBps, i read it in the manual!!
Where did get this info....I mean i agree /w most of, but those, I don't think
so!!

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From: BENGT OSTERDAHL                        Number: 11760
  To: PETE ARNOLD                              Date: 01/11/94 10:16p
Subj: CD-ROM audio outputs and Soundblaster   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi Pete!

04 Jan 94 You wrote to John Millar:

 JM>> Anyone got a simple way of connecting the outputs from
 JM>> the CD-ROM audio channel and the Sounblaster audio
 JM>> channel to a single external amplifier circuit. Sorry,
 JM>> but electronics is not ny strong ! Origin: -*FP*- 0
 JM>> Bytes free (2:254/99)

 PA>   hiya john
 PA>    wot I did was to make a small change over switch with
 PA> bits from Maplins.. very simple to build, all you need is a
 PA> small placky box, 3 x 3.5inch Stereo panel mount sockets, 3
 PA> x 3.5inch stereo plugs, 1 x small change over
 PA>  switch. Diagram

Why are You complicating things?

On our CDROM-player there is an audio outlet that is connected to a socket
marked CD-in on the SoundBlaster PRO card. Then we just use the LINE OUT on the
SB to make the connection to the amplifier and are able to listen to audio CDs
or "Soundblaster"-sound when we are playing games or running multimedia CDROMs.

In fact we have a slightly more complicated setup than I described above. LINE
OUT from the SoundBlaster is connected to LINE IN on an Advanced Gravis
UltraSound soundboard. Then we have connected LINE OUT on the GUS to the
amplifier.

We would never remove the GUS from the computer because it is a _much_ better
soundboard than the SB Pro and we must for the time being have the SB installed
to control the CDROM-player.

BTW: When playing games we are free to choose whatever soundboard we want to
use. Of course we use the GUS whenever possible.

Regards/Bengt

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From: JIM CLEMENTS                           Number: 11761
  To: KIRK BAXTER                              Date: 01/10/94  6:58a
Subj: Re: World Atlas Programs                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

> Global Explorer is (as you surmised) not as detailed but
> "prettier", with more topographical background detailing in
> it. An _excellent_ disc, and infinitely better than the
> Software Toolworks US and World Atlas disc.

KB>Gordon,
KB>   Does Global Explorer give any city detail on major cities?
KB>Just how detailed are maps *[D, say of European countries -- how
KB>big do the cities have to be to show on the maps?    I guess one
KB>measure of the detail of their disk is how much data is on the
KB>CD.  Have they filled a CD with only 200 megs?
KB>    With all the trips I make, such a disk would be real great
KB>to have, but I've grown cautious of disks which I have to buy
KB>sight-unseen.  It's an easy way to throw $90 away, so any other
KB>comments you'd have would be most appreciated.

Kirk, pardon me for butting in here. I know Gordon can answer
this adequately himself. But I am so impressed with Global
Explorer that I had to interject. Don't know how much data
is on the disc, but it is very detailed. Has towns on it as
well as cities, etc. Detail for many major cities goes down
to main street level.

If you think of Street Atlas USA as a street map of the U.S.,
you can think of Global Explorer as a road atlas of the world --
with lots of extra goodies thrown in such as tourist and
historical info.

I don't work for DeLorme or any company that sells the disc
wholesale or retail. I just have it and am glad that I do.
I also have many of the other atlases -- and am very
disappointed in them, but at least I can make an honest
comparison. I think you'd be satisfied that it was worth
the money if you get it. I do know that if you get it
for $90 and don't like it, you should be able to sell
it pretty quickly for close to that. Hope that helps
in some small way. Cheers!
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From: SCOTT GILLIES                          Number: 11762
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/12/94 10:57a
Subj: Dracula Unleashed Clickin               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

*@SUBJECT:Dracula Unleashed Clicking...                               N
Well, this is the second game that has caused me problems. Haven't gone
to Viacom with this yet, so I thought I'd ask around... the video clips
on Dracula Unleashed cause an irritating clicking noise. I had the same
thing happen when I run 7th Guest from DOS.... solved it by running T7G
from windows.... This is not an option with Dracula. Any suggestions?
I've got a 486-66 with a Creative SB-16 and their newer douplespin CD
drive and a Cirrus Logic 542X (or whatever) series VESA video card with
2 megs of video memory. Any suggestions would be helpful.
Scott Gillies
Thanks.
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From: ADAM BRIAND                            Number: 11763
  To: CHAU PHAM                                Date: 01/09/94 11:09p
Subj: Coreldraw V3 Cd                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

   |   I had problem with Mitsumi FX001D and had to return to Best Buy (paid

   | $197 for it).  I have 3 dics, and it can only read 3 sud_directories of
   | Clip_Master_Pro (clipart).  I tried to run setup on all 3 discs and most

   | of them time it reported "Drive not Ready" after few minutes, sometime it
   | took 10-15 mins to report "drive not ready".
   |
Was it a defective drive or is it just because of inferior parts for the
drive?

___
 X JABBER v1.1 X Jabber... The Lean, Mean, Reading Machine...

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From: KENT TIMM                              Number: 11764
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/11/94  4:48p
Subj: !!Adult CDROM Game 4Sale                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

  Game For Sale:   Dream Girl (Adult/"X" version)  CD-ROM

  Includes manual, jewel box, original box.
  Also has Windows screen saver and wallpaper.

  About 1 week old.

** Reason for selling:  Selling it for a friend that got "orders" it get rid
                        of it from girlfriend.


  Game requires: 386DX, 4Meg RAM, VGA (512K), CD-ROM, Windows 3.1,
                 DOS 5 (or higher), mouse, sound card.

What the game is: A 'Love Connection' game show like program, complete with
Windows Video and 8bit or 16bit music.  The are some nude still images as
well as a 4 minute video.  All done in good taste.  Also several other
stills (in BMP format) and video in Windows Video format.  A few strips.
Music and videos can also be played directly with Windows Media Player.

Game sells new for $60 CND.  Selling for $45 CND firm.
USA add $3 for extra postage, (or pay $45US)
Outside Canada and USA: inquire.

Terms: Payment by Money Order *only*.  No checks.
I'll send you my address, then I'll ship the CD the same day I receive
payment from you.

... Battle Creek makes cereal terminals.
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From: STEVE PESANT                           Number: 11765
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 01/12/94  7:40p
Subj: PacRim Computer Show                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi there Boris

Glad to hear you'll be attending the show, looks like it's going to be a pretty
impressive convention. I just had a look at the setup for the show and the show
programs. Which booth will you be at, or are you located in one of the General
Areas?!?!

-=Cheers=-
        Steve.

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From: BO SHORT                               Number: 11766
  To: CHAD REID                                Date: 01/12/94  8:47p
Subj: KQ6 Isle/Wonders                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 > Would you like a hint or a straight out answer?

A straight out answer on how to get whats on the other side of the boiling
pond would be nice.  Thanks

Bo Short

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From: MIKE GERVASI                           Number: 11767
  To: BOB DUNN                                 Date: 01/11/94  4:05p
Subj: WANTED BEATLES CD                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Then it happened......MG>   I just got the Windows version. It's
fantastic.

BDWhere did you get it?

 CD-ROM Warehouse. 1-800-237-6623

               Mike

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From: MIKE GERVASI                           Number: 11768
  To: DON BRADEN                               Date: 01/11/94  4:13p
Subj: Cdrom dealer                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Then it happened......DB> In December an ad appeared from a dealer in
CDROM's , with an
RPaddress in
DB>London, Ontario. I seem to have misplaced the exact address and I
RPwould
DB>appreciate it if someone could provide it for me. Thanks in Advance

I have one for Adult CD's that was posted a bit back.  Modem
Orders-519-649-7530
                             Mike

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From: CARLTON GRIFFIN                        Number: 11769
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/13/94  8:58a
Subj: "Software Gold" CD review               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I recently purchased "Software Vault - The Gold Collection", published
by American Databankers Corp.

The disk contains 611 megs of data in 6,598 files.  That includes about
17.5 megs of GIFs in 138 files, most of which are nothing great or just
junk.  On the good side, there's not that much of them.  There is also
576 megs in 6,013 ZIPped shareware files.  There are only 7 files that
aren't dated sometime in 1993, and after looking thru what it has to
offer I'd say it contains very recent files.  It has 57 file directories
covering just about everything.

It comes with it's own utility that installs on your hard drive about
8.4 megs.  That's a lot, but it keeps all it's filenames and their
descriptions on your hard drive probably for faster access.  It has both
one line descriptions as well as a small paragraph describing almost
every file.  It keeps them divided up into different topics which you
can browse or search.  You can also search the entire disk for pieces of
text found in the descriptions.  Selected files can be tagged and then
either copied or unzipped to the location of your choice.  It displays
the size of the file, and you can view the contents of the zip file and
the uncompressed size.

I like it's database utility, although it is large.  For those who
don't, it will output it's list of files with their descriptions, size,
and date to 20 formats including those needed for Wildcat, PCBoard, and
a few other BBS programs.  It also has standard formats that will allow
this data to be used with whatever program you may want.  I can't say
I've found the access utility program lacking in any way.

I think it's a very good CD.  All the files seem recent, useful, and
varied.  The access utility is very good, although I'd rather have it on
the CD instead of on my hard drive because of it's size; even if it did
slow access time a little.  With 57 file areas it has a wide selection;
so wide I feel that some areas don't contain enough.  This would only be
a complaint if the disk weren't full, but this one is jam packed.  I
can't say how it compares to other shareware CD, I have only seen this
one.  I think it would be great for a BBS.  While it doesn't contain
everything one could ever want, certainly no matter what topic you are
interested in it will have some programs for you.

I think I paid around $18 for this disk, and at that price I'd recommend
it to anyone as a great shareware CD.

                          The SoftwareVAULT Librarian
═[■]════════ MASTER FILES LISTING FOR SoftwareVAULT GOLD ════════[^
Area   Description                            No. Files  Total Size
═══════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════
  1 - Hottest Current Software Hits                  17   4,354,828
  2 - Business Applications                         117  26,153,561
  3 - Wordprocessing Programs and Utilities          55   4,652,147
  4 - Desktop Publishing and Fonts                  145   7,266,914
  5 - Windows Applications                          390  55,403,557
  6 - Windows Games, .BMPs and .WAVs                168  11,317,990
  7 - Spreadsheets and Utilities                     24   2,566,273
  8 - Database Programs and Utilities                63  10,561,857
  9 - Home and Family Computing                     121  12,476,353
 10 - Text Editors and Utilities                     92   7,544,725
 11 - Text and Reference Materials                  374  24,550,228
 12 - Lists and Information Files                   204   9,409,668
 13 - Health Programs and Food Recipes               90   7,493,034
 14 - Games and Humor                               564  60,305,831
 15 - Graphics and Paint Programs                    95  11,326,248
 16 - GIF and Other Pictures                        154  22,347,596
 17 - Math and Science Programs                      30   4,065,063
 18 - Communications Programs                        94  12,928,075
 19 - Religious Programs and Materials               74   8,200,630
 20 - Educational Programs                           87  14,984,071
 21 - CAD, CAM, and Engineering Programs             34   4,462,058
 22 - Operating System Utilities                    158   9,477,579
 23 - Hard Disk Utilities                            46   3,871,790
 24 - Floppy Disk Utilities                          33   2,577,691
 25 - OS/2, Program Manager and Utilities           336  25,965,358
 26 - DOS / UNIX Utilities and Help                  73   4,688,967
 27 - Printer Drivers and Utilities                  55   7,765,167
 28 - Novell, LANtastic, and other Networks         164  17,580,420
 29 - Keyboard, Mouse and I/O Utilities              20     566,053
 30 - Screen Drivers and Utilities                   74   9,134,943
 31 - File Archiving Utilites                       111   9,964,018
 32 - Virus Detection and Protection                 40   6,171,954
 33 - Personal System Utilities                     101  13,352,181
 34 - Program Demonstrations                         26  12,187,701
 35 - BBS Programs and Applications                 262  29,852,905
 36 - BBS Doors and Utilities                       131  16,240,888
 37 - Modem Utilities and Helps                      70   3,765,571
 38 - Association of Shareware Professionals         66  10,638,747
 39 - Ham Radio Utilities                            34   3,097,852
 40 - Clipart and .PCXs                             559   8,934,998
 41 - Trackblaster Files and Utilities               81   7,820,852
 42 - Soundblaster Files and Utilities               31   4,871,728
 43 - ADLIB and MIDI Files (Yamaha and Roland)       43   3,780,729
 44 - PC Speaker and Sound Files                     19   1,260,192
 45 - Musical Potpourri                              38   8,310,199
 46 - Programmers Utilities                          44   4,907,837
 47 - Assembly Source Code                           49   4,920,996
 48 - Pascal and Turbo Pascal Source Code           100   5,507,432
 49 - "C", MS-C, Turbo-C, and Borland C++           111  10,038,761
 50 - Basic and Quick Basic Source Code              58   5,453,987
 51 - dBase FIles and Utilities                      19   1,618,170
 52 - Clipper and Foxbase Utilities                  60   4,267,730
 53 - Programming Source Code - ADA to Z8O           14   2,422,469


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From: THE LAWMAN                             Number: 11770
  To: JOHNIE ROBINSON                          Date: 01/11/94  1:14p
Subj: Mitsumi CD drives                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> I need some help on installing two Mitsumi CD drives on one computer
-> bbs. Is there a better way of doing this other than the way I have? H
-> how I was told to do this.
->
-> Two cards installed
-> Two Device drivers lines in the config.sys
-> one line in the autoexec.bat
->
-> This way takes away a lot of memory for DV, (I had 608 for each windo
-> before installing these, now I have 440 for each window.)  They also
-> two slots on the mother bd. I heard you could Daisy Chain these drive
-> someone please tell me how to do this?
->
->                                              Johnie
->
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Johnie I had 3 of em in almost the same configuration but I didn't run
dv, but used the memory manager in PC Dos 6.1 and came out with 540k
conv. I assume you did rerun qemm again after changing your autoexec.bat
and config.sys, Right? If you didn't, thats more than likely why you
lost so much memory.

I now run a 6 disk changer which has made life so much easier.


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From: THE LAWMAN                             Number: 11771
  To: MARCY FELICE                             Date: 01/11/94  1:21p
Subj: cant get my cdrom to work               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> Help.  I got a cheap multimeadia upgrade package for christmas.  The
-> that came with it an run through windows work fine but it won't play
-> I went out and spent money on.  I popped the cover and there don't se
-> IRQ conflicts, From what I can see I should have enough mem to run th
-> but it just freezes within a minute or two or I get music but no vide
-> a 486, 25Mhz with 4mb ram.  Will I have to up to 8mb?  Does anyone ou
-> have any suggestions or advice?  Thanks.
->
-> ---
->  * Origin: The Rec Room Lansing MI (1:159/340)

The games you bought, were they for windows? If not then thats your
problem, try it from dos or you might have to try lowering the
resolutions on your video in windows.


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From: THE LAWMAN                             Number: 11772
  To: AL BRATLIE                               Date: 01/11/94  1:26p
Subj: SCSI CD Drives ?                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

->         I hope this isn't too dumb of a question, but it has been on
-> When I look through ads in Computer Shopper, I see LOTS of CD Drives.
-> I almost never see any mention of the drive interface. Can one assume
-> the drives have a SCSI interface, or is that something special ?
->         Later,
->                 Al
->
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More than likely they have their own cards and drivers like most do,
scsi is usually specific I think and you usually buy the scsi card
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From: THE LAWMAN                             Number: 11773
  To: MICHAEL GUIDRY                           Date: 01/11/94  1:39p
Subj: Cant Get My Cdrom To Work               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> On 08 Jan 94, Marcy Felice stated to Anyone:
->
-> MF>Help.  I got a cheap multimeadia upgrade package for christmas.  T
-> MF>programs  that came with it an run through windows work fine but i
-> MF>play the  games I went out and spent money on.  I popped the cover
-> MF>there don't seem  to be IRQ conflicts, From what I can see I shoul
-> MF>enough mem to run this  stuff but it just freezes within a minute
-> MF>or I get music but no video.  I have a 486, 25Mhz with 4mb ram.  W
-> MF>have to up to 8mb?  Does anyone out  there have any suggestions or
-> MF> Thanks.
->
->
-> If you can run Windows programs ok, memory is not your problems [alth
-> 8 megs makes Windows a lot peppier].
->
-> I think some more specifics would help.  What games are these?  Are t
-> dos games?  Are you trying to run them under Windows?
->
-> A likely problem is that you may not have enough memory below 640k to
-> the games.  Many of todays dos games require 600k to run properly.  Y
-> can't run them under Windows and you can't run them under dos either
-> you have a lot of tsr's loaded or you have not loaded dos high, no ma
-> if you have a hundred megs of ram.
->
-> It might help to give us a copy of your config.sys and autoexec.bat f
-> and what version of dos you're using.  Also, from the dos prompt, typ
-> "mem" and tell us what is the largest executable progam size?
->
-> ... User Friendly: Never having to say - "I read the manual."
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Thanks Mike, I replied to her but mine was much shorter, she could
probably benefit from qemm depending on what kind of game disk she
bought.


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From: SCOTT TEED                             Number: 11774
  To: JASON DADSWELL                           Date: 01/11/94 11:57a
Subj: Journeyman                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Still no information on Journeyman yet.  Presto finally responded with their
generic "fix it" fax mostly with Windoze information.  It was from what I can
tell, totally useless.  I sent them back a fax with a play by play installation
attempt and asked them to get back to me.  It has been awhile since I heard
anything.  Your right about the solution being vapourous though.

If anyone reads this and knows how to get The Journeyman Project to work in a
Win-os2 session then please let me know.

By the way Jason:

Leafs Rule!

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From: GLENN GARMAN                           Number: 11775
  To: MARCY FELICE                             Date: 01/11/94 11:47a
Subj: Cant get my cdrom to wor                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

MF>Help.  I got a cheap multimeadia upgrade package for christmas.  The
MF>programs  that came with it an run through windows work fine
MF>but it won't play the  games I went out and spent money on.  I
MF>popped the cover and there don't seem  to be IRQ conflicts,
MF>From what I can see I should have enough mem to run this  stuff
MF>but it just freezes within a minute or two or I get music but no
MF>video.  I have a 486, 25Mhz with 4mb ram.  Will I have to up to
MF>8mb?  Does anyone out  there have any suggestions or advice?  Thanks.

Marcy, before anyone can help you, you'll have to be more specific.  What type
of upgrade package did you get, name, components, etc.?  Which games
(specifically) work and which don't?  Give us a more complete picture, and I'm
sure someone will be able to help you out.

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From: GLENN GARMAN                           Number: 11776
  To: BO SHORT                                 Date: 01/11/94 11:53a
Subj: Kq6 isle/wonders                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

BS>Can anyone tell me what I need to get past the last gnome on the Isle
BS>of  Wonders Beach.

You'll need some invisible ink...

BS>Also, what do I need to stop the
BS>ceiling from falling on me in the  labyrinth?  Thanks in advance.

You'll need a brick!

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From: GLENN GARMAN                           Number: 11777
  To: TIM MARSHALL                             Date: 01/12/94  9:22a
Subj: Kings quest                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

TM>How do I get the hole in the wall off of the wall.  I'm in the
TM>catacombs but I read somewhere that I needed the hole.

Use the flute!

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From: LOYD CRAFT                             Number: 11778
  To: DON KULHA                                Date: 01/12/94  9:19p
Subj: LD-R?                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 > In a scanner demo on a 1200dpi/24bit flatbed they were
 > discussing 240mb scan files.
 > Like, you could get two scans on a CD?

That's a mighty big graphics file.   I grumble when they hit a couple megs...
Sounds like a job for data compression. You could possibly squeeze 5 or 6 onto
that CD...  <heh>


 > There was a writeable optical system there that
 > used the Laserdisc sized disks in a cartridge. I don't
 > know what it cost or what the capacity was but I was
 > impressed.

That would be an impressive setup.   I have to get out more. That is THE FIRST
application that I have heard of that would justify a "Video laser-disk" sized
optical drive for file storage.

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From: TERRY GREENMAN                         Number: 11779
  To: DAVID ANDERSON                           Date: 01/11/94  4:57p
Subj: Re: SIERRA CDROM                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting David Anderson to All <=-

 DA> I would be very happy if someone knows how to get Mixed Up Mother
 DA> Goose working on a 486.  the Sierra line is never free, so I have no
 DA> way to figure this out without your help.

 DA> The cd-rom version of the game will not run under DOS, saying it
 DA> cannot initialize my audio hardware, which your garden variety
 DA> soundblaster. So I run it under Windows, and the sound is there but it
 DA> skips and jerks and sounds like a piece of crud.  And it will not save
 DA> games, so you hve to start over every time you play.  HELP!

Excuse me (I had to burp),


Umm...it worked on my 286 no problem, and works just as well on my 386.
Did you read the README file on your CD? Did you run the INSTALL? Did
you read page 5 of your "docs" for DOS installation? Did you read page 6
of your "Docs"?

This has ran on my XRTA XL 286 w/2 meg and also my 386 20 Mhz tower (no
brand name home built sorta) w/1 meg. With a Sound Blaster 1.5.

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From: TERRY GREENMAN                         Number: 11780
  To: MIKE LUTES                               Date: 01/11/94  5:00p
Subj: Re: CD on a 286                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Mike Lutes to All <=-

 ML> Any way at all to run a CD on a 286 machine?  Any info appreciated.

I ran my Tandy CDR-1000 on my ITT XTRA XL 286 8 Mhz and with no
problems, other than it won't run stuff exclusive to the 386 platform.
And also depends what you want to run it for (FILES for a BBS, ect).
Literal answer to your question
                                 Y E S!


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From: JOHN THOMPSON                          Number: 11781
  To: MIKE GERVASI                             Date: 01/04/94  1:50p
Subj: animals cd video driver                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

TC>  I AM TRYING TO GET 'THE ANIMALS <SAN DIEGO ZOO>' TO RUN, BUT I AM
TC>  GETTING "256 COLOR MODE REQUIRED" MESSAGE. I HAVE A VGA
TC>  MONITOR, WHY WON'T IT RUN?

MG>     If this is a Windows Version, you must make sure that you have the
MG>  correct video driver installed in the WIndows Setup portion of the
MG>  program. It is probably because you are now running 16 color instead of
MG>  256. Hope this helps!

Some software seems to insist on a specific driver and balk even when a more
capable driver is being used.  Case in point: I have gotten the same message
from Compton's Encyclopedia when I try to run it with the 16.8M color driver
installed.

 * KingQWK 1.05 # 39 * Superstition brings bad luck.

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From: TIM PEETERS                            Number: 11782
  To: MICHAEL CHOWNING                         Date: 01/05/94 10:48p
Subj: WANTED:  DRM600A                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Michael!

Tuesday January 04 1994 22:19, Michael Chowning wrote to Tim Peeters:


 MC╞═> Re: Pioneer 600A

 >> What do you consider CHEAP!

 MC╞═> Tim I presume from the discussion with Mr. Hamilton you had a used
 MC╞═> Pioneer 600A for sale.  Is it sold?   Is there a number where I can
 MC╞═> reach you?                          Mike

Nope, in fact I'd like to buy another one!


SeeYa,
Tim


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From: JOHN ULLMER                            Number: 11783
  To: ELLIOTT FRISCH                           Date: 01/11/94  3:31p
Subj: Re: I-net through FIDO                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Elliott Frisch to John Ullmer <=-

 EF> I don't care if you read it, I'm not discussing things that are
 EF> important - if I was I would CALL him,  I just wanted to see if it
 EF> worked,  so I know it got somewhere.


        My...testy, testy!




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From: JOHN ULLMER                            Number: 11784
  To: LESLIE RHORER                            Date: 01/11/94  3:37p
Subj: Re: REAL TIME VIDEO ??                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Leslie Rhorer to John Ullmer <=-


 LR> The Pioneer DRM-604X is a 612KB/s drive that holds six CD-ROM
 LR> disks  in the same 6-disk magazine that Pioneer offers for its 6
 LR> and 18 disk home audio compact disk players.  This allows
 LR> one to have six CD-ROM disks online.  It is a SCSI-II
 LR> drive, and each disk is accessed as a separate embedded
 LR> target of the single SCSI ID.  The cost of the drive has
 LR> hovered fairly steadily around $1175, plus interface cable.
 LR> I have seen a rumour that Pioneer is soon releasing a
 LR> single disk version of the drive, and I believe that they
 LR> already offer an 18 disk version.

 LR> Les


        Clearly there is/was a confusion here.  The original message, I
        thought, was about SPEED (i.e., single, double, triple spin).

        You, on the other hand, were talking about multi-DISK drives, not
        multi-SPIN drives.

        Thanks for the reply and the info.




... When I was your age, there were NO hard disks.
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From: JOHN ULLMER                            Number: 11785
  To: STEAN SNYMAN                             Date: 01/11/94  3:47p
Subj: Re: seventh guest                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Stean Snyman to John Ullmer <=-

 SS> Hello John!

 SS> 31 Dec 93 13:55, John Ullmer wrote to Scott Stadler:

 JU> available (tryst, pry, spy, try, etc.).  Then I try to get a sentence
 JU> from the available words.

 SS> I got it right..  Youre on the right track, but notice its
 SS> NOT like a sentence you'll speak in your lifetime :)

 SS> Adios
 SS> Stean


        Hi Stean.  Glad you finally tripped into the answer.  You're
        sure right about it not being any sentence anyone would ever
        concoct.

        Don't know if you've gotten to this point or not yet, but let
        me give you a warning about two FALSE clues that provided.  One is for
        the caskets at the end of the maze; the other is for the painting
        of Stauf (in a room that can only be accessed by going _through_
        the bottom of the main staircase.

        In both cases there is a 9 block puzzle, 3 X 3.  The clue says
        that _touching_ any item will change any of the items ADJACENT
        to it, but NOT DIAGONAL to ith.  That's NOT TRUE!

        For both the caskets and the portrait, touching any of the four
        corner items will ALSO affect the item DIAGONAL from the
        corner item.

        Personally, I'm getting bored with the same ol' same ol' puzzle
        types: checkerboards and mazes.  The piano was the first different
        puzzle I've encountered.  I think Virgin did a lousy of job of
        providing variety.

        Good luck, and keep pokin' your hand into strange places.



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From: JOHN ULLMER                            Number: 11786
  To: GEORGE BARONE                            Date: 01/11/94  3:57p
Subj: Re: Triple Speed Drive                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Jeremy Rollings to George Barone <=-

 GB>Could anyone recommend a good triple speed drive, I am looking for  s
 GB>that will not go out of date within 2 years like every  other piece o
 GB>that I buy. Thanks

 JR> Two years? Man, that's not bad at all! :) :)
 JR> I'm lucky if the "state of the art" hardware I buy is still
 JR> SUPPORTED two years later!!!

 JR> Jeremy in Chicago.


        Jeremy is 100% right, proving that living in Chicago isn't
        necessarily hazardous to your thinking.  (Don't get mad, I
        was born in Chicago.)

        Unless there's a secret I haven't heard yet, NEC is the only
        choice you have if you're looking for 3X drive.  Undoubtedly
        other manufacturers will be coming up with triple spins pretty
        quick.




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From: JOHN ULLMER                            Number: 11787
  To: KEVIN O'BUCKLEY                          Date: 01/12/94  9:41a
Subj: Re: CHOICES!!!                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Kevin O'buckley to All <=-

 KO> I'm having a real problem choosing between two software packages:
 KO> Should I buy The Seventh Guest or Return to Zork?
 KO> They both look excellent, and cost the same for me.
 KO> If anyone has experience with both games,
 KO> please let me know which you prefer...

 KO> Thanks!
 KO> Kevin O'Buckley

        Of course you realize that all this is IMHO.

        Go for Zork.  7th Guest has fine graphics, and an
        interesting story.  BUT the "puzzles" have nothing
        to do with the story.  The Puzzles are all based on
        a checkerboard style puzzle, and several of 'em are
        based on chess.

        The guy/gal who designed the game was clearly a chess
        freak who believes he/she is gonna convert the world
        to chess playing.  After 8 or 10 of these checkerboards,
        I got kinda BORED.

        If you like doing the same type of puzzle over and over
        and over, then 7th Guest is the game for you.

        I haven't gone into Zork that deeply, but as far as I've
        gone I'm impressed greatly.  The challenges are all
        different, and the player has to stay alert.  The music is
        excellent.

        I'm close to being finished with 7th.  Hope to resell it
        fast and cheap.



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From: ED DUCHEK                              Number: 11788
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/12/94  4:38p
Subj: Aldus PhotoStyler for win 2.0           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I have Aldus PhotoStyler for windows version 2.0.... the latest... on CD Rom.
This is the SE version
Its complete, never registered.

$100 takes this great program! + P&H



Ed Duchek
[phone]

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From: EDDIE APPELL                           Number: 11789
  To: GORDON PETERSON                          Date: 01/06/94  3:52p
Subj: LD-R?                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

GP>What I would _love_ to find for a project I'm working on would be a
GP>writeable (-once) Laser Videodisc.  It would seem like CD-R could be
GP>simply scaled up and allow making a machine that could make one-off
GP>(CAV, in my case) laser videodiscs.  Sure would be handy for the
GP>project I'm working on!!!   :-)

There are writeable Laserdiscs and there are countless processing
centers that will record your video onto a laserdisc for you and make as
many copies as you want.  Last time I checked I think it cost about
$450 to $600 for the first disc and about $180 to $250 for copies, not
cheap, but it's available.  As for recording data on a laserdisc, I
think that is also available now, if my memory serves me correctly, but
it's extremely expensive and it's really for archival purposes only.  I
mean, do you have a "LaserROM" reader?  So that won't take off as an end
user medium for a while, if at all.

Hope that helps!

Ed


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From: EDDIE APPELL                           Number: 11790
  To: KULJIT DHARNI                            Date: 01/06/94  4:46p
Subj: Purchace of a CD-ROM                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

KD>HI,
KD>    After having had a look in the rags and on T.V etc I think the
KD>time to buy a CD-ROM drive is now, with the prices going down.

KD>What I'm after is a fast drive for use with video. A double speed one
KD>which is hopefully not to expensive. Also the ability to use say a
KD>Sound Blaster card interface would be great as I'm also looking at
KD>getting one of those.

Right now the fastest drives are quad-spin drives - they run at about
600kbps and that's 4x as fast as the original drives. Those two drives
are the NEC 4x series and the Pioneer 604x 6-Disc changer. I think Texel
is working on one, but not released yet.  There are also Triple-spin
drives which are also very new and very fast.  They are the NEC 3x
series and I'm sure within the next few months many verndors will have
triple-speed drives out. The triple-speed drives obviously run at about
450kbps, which also much quicker than the double-speed which has become
standard.  The NEC drives range from a street price of about $419 for
the portable triple-speed to about $980 for the quad-speed drive. I
think the Pioneer 604x is about $1200 on the street. I know I'm
imterested in the NEC 3xi which is the internal version of the
triple-speed drive and that has a street price of about $469.  I'm
waiting for it to hit $450, then I'll probably buy one. All of these are
SCSI/SCSI-II drives, so you'll need a SCSI adaptor, or a sound card with
a SCSI connector, like the Soundblaster/Multi-CD (or something like
that). I have the Viva Maestro 16 and love it. It has wavetable, SCSI-II
connector, upgradeable ROMs and has a two-year warranty.  I've been very
happy with it and it cost me $169!

Hope that helps!!

Ed


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From: EDDIE APPELL                           Number: 11791
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 01/10/94  3:38p
Subj: !free Cd catalog!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

JR>*********** FREE HUGE CD-ROM DISC & accessories CATALOG!*************
JR>For the largest selection & lowest prices, get our NEW catalog...
JR>If you'd like a printed copy, send your mailing information to us.
JR>We offer CDLIST file attach's upon request.
JR>CATALOG FREQ: cdlist.zip    (over 1,100 cd-rom disc titles available)

I'd definitely like to recieve your catalog!!

Please send it to:

                    Eddie Appell
                    340 Bowfin St
                    Foster City, CA 94404

Thanks!!

Ed


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From: DON RAICHLE                            Number: 11792
  To: DAVE JOHNSON                             Date: 01/09/94  2:04a
Subj: Re: CorelDRAW V3 CD                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

DJ>That's weird, like you guys, I too have a Mitsumi drive.  I've tried
  >installing Corel v3.0 off the CD, but came across an error while
  >installing the program.  Maybe there's a problem with the disk??
  >Won't know until I try it on another drive.

Other factors you might like to take into consideration too, Dave.  What
version of the CDROM do you have?  (Look on the hub ring under a good
light to find out.)  My comments applied to REV B, which I have.  If you
have an earlier one, your mileage may vary.

I've recently heard that the single speed Mitsumi drives have some
variation of their own.  The oldest ones (the slow ones) worked fine.
Some of the faster ones produced a few months ago are said to have some
trouble reading out to the end of the disk.  But (guessing wildly now) I
wouldn't =expect= to find the installation files out there.

I hope you get everything worked out.  The Corel Draw program is an awful
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From: MIKE SHIMKUS                           Number: 11793
  To: JOHN ALEXANDER                           Date: 01/12/94  8:04p
Subj: KINGSQUEST                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi John,

  You replied to someone who was stuck at the Logic Cliffs in KQ6:

JA>There are hints in the Booklet that came with KQ6.  Look in it under
JA>"Logic Cliffs".

  They call it copy protection up here. :-) If you didn't have
the book,the cliffs would be impossibly hard.

.\\ike

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From: JASON WAGNER                           Number: 11794
  To: CHRIS ZITO                               Date: 01/11/94 12:42p
Subj: Re: Doom on a GUS?                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

NOTE: This is a different Jason Wagner--  In Colorado

In a previous message to Jason, you mentioned a patch, and that everything
works fine now.  Do you know where I can pick up this patch?  I got so
annoyyed when I finished a level and Doom crashes out to DOS..  BTW> Ever
notice that it takes Doom forever to load, but it only takes it a split second
to crash out?

        - Midnight Runner

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From: DOMINIC LAVOIE                         Number: 11795
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/10/94  1:08p
Subj: HotPix Vol.3                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi!

       IS there someone who can give me is files.bbs for the CD HotPix Vol.3. I
can poll to get them !!!

Thanx

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From: TOM MILLER                             Number: 11796
  To: TERRY BLOUNT                             Date: 01/13/94  6:32a
Subj: Quicken CD                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Greetings Terry !

Terry, have you seen Quickens CD yet?  Suppose to sell for around 70.00?

 * WCE 1.5/2163 * Never take a beer to a job interview.


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From: DEREK STUTSMAN                         Number: 11797
  To: RALPH LINDEMANN                          Date: 01/12/94  1:17a
Subj: Re: VIVID CD Kama Sutra                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

RL>The setup programm runs fine but not the programm, even while meeting a
RL>the requirements listed in a readme file....

Hmm.  This is a tough one.  Can you tell me a little more about what the CD
is supposed to do?  (In terms of graphics, sound, or whatever.)

It's possible a driver is missing...?

I am no genius, but maybe I can offer some type of advice.  Many others in
this echo can be helpful as well.



Derek Stutsman
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From: DEREK STUTSMAN                         Number: 11798
  To: RALPH LINDEMANN                          Date: 01/12/94  1:45a
Subj: Re: Caches                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

RL>Hello Freaks,

RL>how come everybody is talking about the new DOS 6.2 smartdrive when it
RL>comes down to caching your CD ROM and Harddisk?

RL>Isn't there anything a little more advanced and of course faster ?

Well, there are a few (expensive) commercial programs out there, but they
eat memory like crazy and the performance benefit is debatable.  In fact, I
would debate whether or not Smartdrv actuall helps my performance...It sure
seems to bench out the same with or without it.

I use a 386/40 with 8 megs and a Creative Labs Omni CD (2X)



Derek Stutsman
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From: DEREK STUTSMAN                         Number: 11799
  To: KEVIN O'BUCKLEY                          Date: 01/12/94  1:47a
Subj: CHOICES!!!                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

KO>I'm having a real problem choosing between two software packages:
KO>        Should I buy The Seventh Guest or Return to Zork?
KO>        They both look excellent, and cost the same for me.
KO>        If anyone has experience with both games,
KO>        please let me know which you prefer...

Depends.  T7G is mostly puzzle-oriented, like chess games and the like.
RTZ is more of an adventure game with clues and creative solutions.  Which
do you prefer?  I liked RTZ, personally..



Derek Stutsman
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From: MIKE YOUNG                             Number: 11800
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 01/12/94 10:06p
Subj: Re: !free Cd catalog!                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Joe Rinehart to All <=-

 JR> *********** FREE HUGE CD-ROM DISC & accessories CATALOG!*************
 JR> For the largest selection & lowest prices, get our NEW catalog...
 JR> If you'd like a printed copy, send your mailing information to us.
 JR> CATALOG FREQ: cdlist.zip (over 1,100 cd-rom disc titles available)44k
 JR> DESCRIPT FREQ: descript.zip   (about 800 cd-rom disc descriptions)70k
 JR> Internet: [e-mail]
 JR> FidoNet: 1:157/479 - RBBSNet 8:965/13 - KesherNet 18:711/176
 JR> Joe Rinehart / config.sys, Inc.    Voice: [phone]  -  24 hours
 JR> P.O. Box 27                        Data/Fax: [phone]
 JR> Kent, Ohio 44240-0001              >>>INTERNATIONAL ORDERS WELCOME<<<
 JR>
 JR> -!- MsgToss 2.0c
 JR>  ! Origin: Home of config.sys, Inc.-Discount CD's-Kent, Oh (1:157/479)
 JR>


Hi Joe,
       Please mail me your catalog to: Mike Young
                                       3904 Napa Place
                                       Valrico, Florida
                                       33594-8432


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From: JAMES ROBERTS                          Number: 11801
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/12/94 10:44p
Subj: 7th Guest and Advanced Logic Video Card  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I am trying to run The 7th Guest on a machine with an Advanced Logic
video card.  I have been told by the game"s maker to download a driver
from their BBS.  I cannot seem to get through to the BBS.

Are video drivers for The 7th Guest available on local BBS, Commpuserve,
etc. or an FTP site?

Thanks.
Jim.

James Roberts

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From: LOIS FRANKEL                           Number: 11802
  To: JOHN MCCOMAS                             Date: 01/11/94 11:09p
Subj: Parallel port cd roms ?                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On 01-06-94  20:19 John Mccomas said something about Parallel port cd roms ?,
to which I reply:

 JM> Can anybody tell me about parallel port portable CD ROM drives?

 JM> Brands:
     Microsolutions Backpack

 JM> Suppliers:
 We got one for our office from a local clone shop.

 JM> Moolah:

 Last September it was $389; it came down a bit since

 JM> Why I shouldn't get one... <g>
 more expensive than other options; but it's great if you plan to move
 it frequently and without hassle from one machine to another (or if you
 want to run it on a laptop).


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From: PAT RILEY                              Number: 11803
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 01/12/94  8:04p
Subj: Missed the Package                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No


Joe:

  Due to a family emergency, I missed picking up the QRZ CD from the
US Snail.  I am sending you a check that should cover your expenses and
the price of the CD (again via US Snail).  Sorry for the inconvenience.

Thanks.
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From: JAMES REYLE                            Number: 11804
  To: KEVIN MARTIN                             Date: 01/12/94 11:55p
Subj: Philips                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> On Jan 08 01:00, Jason Chancellor of 1:124/8005 wrote:
->
->  JC> I am in the market to purchase a CD Recorder and was wondering i
->  JC> someone could point me in the right direction.  What I am lookin
->
->  JC> noticed 2 main brands.  Philips and Ricoh.  Ricoh is much cheape
->  JC> I was wondering what the difference is.  I am also very open to
->
-> Supposedly the software included with the Philips unit is fantastic.
-> I've had one apart on my repair bench, and it is a industrial strengt
-> machine, very well built and high tech.  I've yet to try one out tho.
->
->  JC> suggestions on other recorders, but am looking to keep the cost
->  JC> at 4000 dollars and preferably below.  Speed of the recorder is
->  JC> an issue at all.  A single spin drive would be fine.  If anyone
->  JC> one that is used I would also take that as a consideration.  Tha
->  JC> for your time.
->
-> At less than $4000, that sort of leaves the Philips out doesn't it?
-> I can get you the Philips machine, but it is over $5000, closer to
-> $5500 or if you buy one elseware talk to me about getting a service
-> contract.  The laser assy is well over $1000 to replace!
->
-> Kevin
-> Philips Service Company
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->
->   Kevin:
Are you in the Knoxville area? I like Philips equipment alot, audio and
etc. Do they do any engineering in the states, or is it done in the
Netherlands. I wouldn't mind working for them, possibly in the medical
or industrial instrumentation area.
                                     James Reyle


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From: MIKE LAWSON                            Number: 11805
  To: WILLIAM SCHNEIDER, JR.                   Date: 01/12/94  8:19a
Subj: Multi-disk cdroms                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi, I Hadn't seen that one, Sounds really cool. If You Don't mind, when you see
it again, can you give me an issue and page number. They're wanting to get a
couple of multidisks for the library where I work, and 1 of them might just be
simpiler than 3 of the older ones. You said they are triple speed, any idea of
the load time for each disk, before the seek starts in?
Thanks.
Mike
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From: JOHN ALEXANDER                         Number: 11806
  To: BO SHORT                                 Date: 01/11/94  6:29p
Subj: KQ6 Isle/Wonders                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Bo Short to All <=-

 BS> Can anyone tell me what I need to get past the last gnome on the Isle
 BS> of Wonders Beach.  He is the one that looks at you to see if you are
 BS> human or not.  Also, what do I need to stop the ceiling from falling
 BS> on me in the labyrinth?  Thanks in advance.
 BS> Bo Short

Knome: Get the bottle of invisible ink the Pawn Shoppe owner threw away.

Catacombs: Use a brick you find on the isle of the beast.



... Hell hath no fury like the lawyer of a woman scorned.
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From: DEREK STUTSMAN                         Number: 11807
  To: RAY MATTHEWS                             Date: 01/13/94  3:50a
Subj: Double-Spin? NOT                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

RM>     Did you use the CD device drivers that came with the drive, or did
RM>keep the same drivers that you had for a previously installed drive? A
RM>of mine had a similar problem, and this is what he had done.

RM>---
RM> * Origin: Oh no! My tagline is umop apisdn! 73 de N9LHF (RA 1:2270/233



Derek Stutsman
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From: JEFF KEY                               Number: 11808
  To: KENSHIN SAKURA                           Date: 01/08/94 12:09a
Subj: Re: T7G Maze                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

And KENSHIN SAKURA said unto JEFF KEY....

KS>*** Quoting Jeff Key to Stean Snyman ***

KS>JK> Maybe not, but it can still be used as a guide..  That's how I
KS>JK> got through..  First time..  (Well, first time after seeing the
KS>JK> rug.. before that, I had no clue..)

KS>     Sorry to butt in here, but have you finished T7G? If so, I'd
KS>really appreciate help with one of the puzzles. It's the one with the
KS>bacteria under the microscope. I can't win no matter what I do! Do
KS>you have any strategies you would be willing to share? (assuming
KS>you've passed this part)

Well, to tell you the truth, I 'cheated'..  I couldn't win for the life
of me..  So I got some of my non-computer literate friends that were
supposedly good at reversi to try it and they couldn't either..  so I
finally resorted to going to the library clue book 3 times..  after 3
times, it says 'They puzzle is solved!' so if you can't get it..  just
do that..  trust me..  I tried MANY, MANY times..  oh well..  good luck!

Jeff Key
Internet - [e-mail]

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From: BLAKE EVES                             Number: 11809
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 01/13/94  1:05a
Subj: RE: !FREE CD CATALOG!                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 JR> *********** FREE HUGE CD-ROM DISC & accessories
 JR> CATALOG!************* For the largest selection & lowest
 JR> prices, get our NEW catalog... If you'd like a printed copy,
 JR> send your mailing information to us. We offer CDLIST file
 JR> attach's upon request. CATALOG FREQ: cdlist.zip    (over 1,100
 JR> cd-rom disc titles available)         Internet:
 JR> [e-mail]     FidoNet: 1:157/479
 JR> - RBBSNet 8:965/13 - KesherNet 18:711/176 Joe Rinehart /
 JR> config.sys, Inc.    Voice: [phone]  -  24 hours P.O. Box
 JR> 27                        Data/Fax: [phone] Kent, Ohio
 JR> 44240-0001              >>>INTERNATIONAL ORDERS WELCOME<<<

 JR> --- MsgToss 2.0c
 JR>  * Origin: Home of config.sys, Inc.-Discount CD's-Kent, Oh
 JR>  (1:157/479)
 Joe!

Please send a copy of your catalogue to:
                         Blake Eves
                         Box 820
                         Coalhurst, Alberta
                         Canada
                         TOL OVO

Thanks

Snake

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From: CARLOS HENRIQUE CANTU                  Number: 11810
  To: JAMES SUMMERS                            Date: 01/07/94 10:33p
Subj: Re: Smartdrv and CD                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 JS> Hello-

 JS> I have but one question.  Can DOS Smartdrv Cache a CD-rOm?

    Only the DOS 6.2 SmartDrive can do it...

    []s
                WarmBooter



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From: DOUGLAS BELL                           Number: 11811
  To: AL BRATLIE                               Date: 01/12/94 11:52a
Subj: SCSI CD Drives ?                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

AB·        I hope this isn't too dumb of a question, but it has been on my mind
AB·When I look through ads in Computer Shopper, I see LOTS of CD Drives. Howeve
AB·I almost never see any mention of the drive interface. Can one assume that
AB·the drives have a SCSI interface, or is that something special ?

You must have you're own controller for SCSI CD-ROM's ..
And be very careful now, alot of companies are selling AT-BUS CD-ROM
drives 1x and 2x that don't come with the adapter either, so when you do
decide to buy one, ask if it comes with controller card ..

Luck to ya ..
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From: MIKE GILBERTSON                        Number: 11812
  To: JAMES SUMMERS                            Date: 01/13/94 12:28p
Subj: Loom CD                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Cast "Twist" on the sword. (the reverse of the notes you used on the staircase)

L8r

Mikey


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From: DOUGLAS BELL                           Number: 11813
  To: DAVE REED                                Date: 01/13/94  5:53p
Subj: RECORDABLE                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

DR· DB> I can offer the service of recording whatever you have need of for
DR· DB> $50 / cd-rom disk ..

DR·$50?  In which format can you receive the data?  I am giving some serious
DR·thought to dumping my BBS files areas to CD-ROM to free up some of the disk
DR·space that seems to be shrinking on a daily basis.

QIC 80/40 .. Data must be pre configured as to what directories you want
it all in and that would about cover it ..

$50 per disk and s/h both ways will cover it all ..

Make sure to test your Tape backup files after backup ..
I did one recently, and 50 files out of 1500 were bad ..

If you need to call me voice, 303-467-1294 .. After Jan 20th, I'll be at
505-758-5782 ..
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From: DOUGLAS BELL                           Number: 11814
  To: ANTHONY PONTORIERO                       Date: 01/13/94  5:53p
Subj: RECORDABLE                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No


You're looking to rent for a week or a month ..

If you want, I can make things overall easier for you ..
I can put whatever it is that you may want on CD-ROM for you for a
simple charge that will be lower than what you'd probably pay to rent
including cost of media ..

If you are seriosly interested, please call me at 303-467-1294, or after
Jan 20th, 505-758-5782 ..

I have a Ricoh RS9200CD Recorder for making CD-ROM, CD-XA, CD-I ..
Privacy of information is assured ..

Depending on what is required and quantity, turn-around is usually 1 day

Thanks
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From: CURTIS PHILLIPS                        Number: 11815
  To: JEFF WEISS                               Date: 01/12/94 11:17p
Subj: *# MITSUMI 2X CD $219                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Two things; Thing one - what are the two essential specs for the CD-ROM ie
access time & throughput rate and thing two - I have a Proaudio 16 sound
system...is there an additional charge for the cable for it and how much...ok
so its three questions...
Regards,
Curtis Phillips

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From: GRANT LEWIS                            Number: 11816
  To: STEVE SHELIKOFF                          Date: 01/13/94 11:00a
Subj: CD Rom fps rate                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hey Steve --
  Thanks for the reply. I may have been unclear concerning the frames
per second rate. It's NOT 67 fps -- it's 67 frames OUT OF 264. That's
only about 4 frames per second (3.9 something). Now you understand my
concern! I mean, here I am, a 330 KB/sec CD rom, a local bus video card,
8 MB of ram on a 486DX-33 with a 19MB permanent swap file and I'm
getting CRAPPY results.
  Do you think it's possible that the problem is with MPC Wizard? I
haven't noticed that other video for windows apps give me that much
problem (though some of what I see in Encarta could be better, I think.)
My DOS apps -- I just bought and am playing 7th Guest -- look pretty
good.
  Wadday think?
                                               -- Grant Lewis


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From: MICHAEL DAUM                           Number: 11817
  To: TRANE FRANCKS                            Date: 01/13/94 12:50p
Subj: GOOD SHAREWARE CD                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

TF>Thanks very much, Mike. However, I was very surprised to
TF>stumble across Night Owl 10 locally, and at a price that was
TF>just short of ridiculous. I purchased it the day before
TF>yesterday.
TF>

You do know that Night Owl 10 has a virus in one or two compressed files.
Most virus software can't detect it, only after it has been un-compressed.
 I think that Night owl 10.1 (or so) has taken care of this.

I don't know what files have the virus, but know that they are there.

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From: MICHAEL DAUM                           Number: 11818
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/13/94 12:52p
Subj: LARRY 6 ON CD                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Does anyone know if there is a big difference in Leisure Suit Larry 6 on
CD than on disk.

I know that titles like Kings Quest have more animation and have actors
talking out loud instead of having to read.

Is Larry 6 the same?

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From: GORDON IRELAND                         Number: 11819
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/13/94 12:19p
Subj: Home Medical Advisor Pro                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Can any dealer advise me if they can get Home Medical Advisor Pro.
It is by Pixel Perfect Software.

Could you please send me the cost also.
Thanks
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From: DAVID WONG                             Number: 11820
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 01/12/94 12:13p
Subj: !free Cd catalog!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

JR>JR>*********** FREE HUGE CD-ROM DISC & accessories CATALOG!*************
JR>JR>For the largest selection & lowest prices, get our NEW catalog...
JR>JR>If you'd like a printed copy, send your mailing information to us.
JR>JR>We offer CDLIST file attach's upon request.
JR>JR>CATALOG FREQ: cdlist.zip    (over 1,100 cd-rom disc titles available)
JR>JR>        Internet: [e-mail]
JR>JR>    FidoNet: 1:157/479 - RBBSNet 8:965/13 - KesherNet 18:711/176
JR>JR>Joe Rinehart / config.sys, Inc.    Voice: [phone]  -  24 hours
JR>JR>P.O. Box 27                        Data/Fax: [phone]
JR>JR>Kent, Ohio 44240-0001              >>>INTERNATIONAL ORDERS WELCOME<<<

Can you send me one?

David Wong
8621 S. 235th St. #CC-103
Kent, WA. 98031

Thanks alot!
> Dave <

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From: JOSE VISBAL                            Number: 11821
  To: JIM HARBIN                               Date: 01/13/94  4:00a
Subj: Re: StarWars Rebel Assaul               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Thanks for getting back to me .....
I will be standing by...
later..

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From: SCOTT TEED                             Number: 11822
  To: GARY CHU                                 Date: 01/13/94  9:46a
Subj: Journeyman                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi Gary.  I'm afraid I am the wrong person to ask about The JOurneyman Project.
 Not only can I not get this game to work in OS/2 but I have an equally
impossible time of it in DOS/Windoze as well (and that's with the tip sheet
Quadra Interactive faxed to me).  As far as I'm concerned every and anybody who
thinks they should buy this game had better think again.

(in fairness to those of us who did buy it, the intro looks good!)

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From: JEREMY ROLLINGS                        Number: 11823
  To: SHANE MINER                              Date: 01/12/94  3:52a
Subj: A HARD DAY'S NIGHT                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

->1:321/249

SM>Hey can anyone help me?  I got the CD for windows as a Christmas pres
SM>when I tried to run it it said "Need's 256 color monitor", I know I h
SM>but obviously my computer disagrees, how can I get it to agree????

You may not have a 256-color Windows video driver loaded.
Launch your Windows setup program (icon shows small computer
and disks) and look at the DISPLAY option. If it just says VGA,
than you're using a 640X480X16 color driver. What you need is
a 640X480X256 driver.

If your VGA card is a popular one, you can probably find
the driver in the list available in the setup application. If
(like mine) it's not as popular, you'll need to look with the
disk which came with the card to get the 256 driver, or you'll
need to call the card maker.

In fact, if you've had your VGA card for a while,
you might want to call your card maker anyway
and see if there is an updated driver. The newest version of
the driver might be more efficienct than the one you got when
you bought the card.

Best of luck. Let us know how it turns out :)
Jeremy in Chicago.

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From: JEREMY ROLLINGS                        Number: 11824
  To: JASON WAGNER                             Date: 01/12/94  3:54a
Subj: Creative Labs                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

JW>The called me about my order of a SB 16 ASP MCD, and the sales guy to
JW>that Creative Labs recalled ALL ASP cards for upgrade and they
JW>wouldn't have any until three weeks from now! AAAAAA!  Anyways,
JW>anyone know what the deal is?  What is this upgrade (or are they
JW>just trying to cover up fixing some kind of bug <G>)?

Whoa! I wonder if this has anything to do with the fact that CompUSA
has been out of ALL Creative Labs 16 Multi-CD cards (both with ASP
and without) for weeks? That GUS is looking better all the time...

Jeremy in Chicago.

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From: WONG THOMAS                            Number: 11825
  To: HERRY HERMAWAN                           Date: 01/13/94 12:27a
Subj: NEC 74-1                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 HH> NEC 74-1 CD-ROM (new)
 HH> complete and include REG. card
 HH> never been used (I swear!!)

     How much do you want for it and can you post me some specs etc...


 Thanks!



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From: JEREMY RANDALL                         Number: 11826
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 01/13/94  3:00a
Subj: !free Cd catalog!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 JR> *********** FREE HUGE CD-ROM DISC & accessories CATALOG!*************

Thanks for the quick response!  Mine arrived today! :-)

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From: FRANK HICINBOTHEM                      Number: 11827
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 01/11/94  1:00p
Subj: moderator                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 > What happened to our moderator?

I've been asking that for some time now.

The only voice number I have for him seems to be out of order, and he doesn't
reply to netmail sent to him at his "home" BBS, 1:147/31.  I also sent netmail
to Wayne Majors, who controls the Elist entry, but he hasn't bothered to reply.
I see an occasional message from somebody named Tim Helton, who claims to be
co- moderator, but he is not listed as such in the current Elist.

If you hear from him, let me know.

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From: AMANDA HARRIS                          Number: 11828
  To: ADRIAN SALAS                             Date: 01/13/94  6:13a
Subj: Question                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Speaking
of CD Roms, I have a problem in which I have been unable to solve ever
since I've had my CD Rom.  I have:  A:\  (3.5" drive)
                                    B:\  (5.25" drive)
                                    C:\  (345MB hard drive)
                                    D:\  (245MB hard drive)
                                    E:\  (Ram Drive)
                                    F:\  (CD Rom)

I want my CD Rom to be drive E and my Ram Drive to be drive F.  I have
tried changing the attributes on the CD Rom device driver but the Ram
Drive continues to force itself as drive E and displaces the CD Rom
drive as drive F.  Also, I have tried loading the CD Rom device driver
before the Ram Drive but it continues to force itself as the drive
letter of the CD Rom.  According to the MS Dos manual, the Ram Drive is
suppose to become the drive letter after all physical devices.  Why
doesn't it treat the CD Rom as a physical device?  Have you encountered
this and is there a solution?

Amanda


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From: KEN MATTHEWS                           Number: 11829
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/11/94  9:26p
Subj: ENCYCLOPEDIA"S                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I there much difference in the new Comptons and Groliers encyclopedias over
the last versions?

Which Clip art CD is real Good for Holiday's and etc with Color and good
resolution?

Bible Cd's, which is a good MUltimedia one?

       Thanks
           ken
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From: KEN MATTHEWS                           Number: 11830
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 01/11/94  9:34p
Subj: Re: CDROM Specials                      Refer: NONE
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On 9 Jan 94 02:25pm, Doug Carpenter wrote to All:

>     Library of Future (450 books)..26.95  Beacon & Chessmaster....28.95

Doug I was wondering what the big diference of price of the latest Library of
the Future 2 over this one. It is a 200 dollars more? Whats in it?

Which one of your Bible Librarys woul;d you recomend that is Multmedia?

Which Colored clipart CD would you recommend, High resolution?


          Thanks..
            Ken
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From: JIM FREDERICK                          Number: 11831
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/01/94  3:58a
Subj: 7th guest                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

    I'm still having problems getting this to run.  Any suggestions?

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From: MIKE HAMMER                            Number: 11832
  To: MICHAEL KELLY                            Date: 01/04/94  3:12p
Subj: Re: Cd-rom Drives+                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

MK>  JR> ********* Refurbished SCSI NEC Model 36   CD-ROM DRIVES $130 *********
MK> Are these SCSI by any chance?  If so, I would be very interested, especiall

Most descriptions that say SCSI indicate the specified drive IS indeed SCSI.

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From: DIANNE CLARK                           Number: 11833
  To: PETE BEENS                               Date: 01/12/94  4:09p
Subj: !free Cd Catalog!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Pete,

Please send me one of your Catalogs.

Dianne Clark
P.O.Box 19214
West Palm Beach,Fl.33416-9214

I would greatly appreciate that. Take care and look for it in the mail.

Di-


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From: STEVE PRATT                            Number: 11834
  To: DON GESER                                Date: 01/12/94  9:47p
Subj: Available cd's                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>       Does anyone out thier know of a Christian files only CD? If so,
>please respond!

    I have purchased two:  Bibles & Religion - Chestnut CD-ROM that has
commentaries, concordances, Old & New testaments, study guides, ect. all
shareware.

        AND - The Holy Bible - Advantage Plus Dist. Inc. - Two Bible study
programs - Online Bible and Seedmaster (Windows and/or Dos) KJV, ASV and seven
other versions, Greek and Hebrew, Strongs Numbers, lexicons, and much more.

    As an all-around disk I would purchase Bibles and Religion.

    I'll sell the Holy Bible CD for $15 plus S&H if you are interested.


===
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From: KYLE BROWN                             Number: 11835
  To: RICHARD MONTOYA                          Date: 01/13/94  1:10p
Subj: Re: SBLASTER/CD-ROM                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>>> RICHARD MONTOYA wrote to KYLE BROWN on 01-10-94 14:37 <<<

RM>And how much. Notice how the SB16 costs less than the SBPro did just a
RM>year ago? My needs are simple, I just want to use a good reference CD
RM>Encyclopedia to do my essays and research paper for college. I'm not
RM>asking for too much. Maybe just an upgrade to a double spin drive and a
RM>16 bit sound card that I can use as an interface for the CD.

Well what I meant was you can wait forever and have nothing or buy now and
enjoy.

MPS Multimedia which advertises in Computer Shopper has the Panasonic
dbl-speed for $200 now, SB16 $129, and CD cables & drivers for $10. That's
what I have except I got the MultiCD model.


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From: KYLE BROWN                             Number: 11836
  To: KYLE MACHULIS                            Date: 01/13/94  5:06p
Subj: Re: Good Games.                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>>> KYLE MACHULIS wrote to MATT CULLEN on 01-09-94 14:49 <<<

KM> Myst or Lawnmower Man would be my picks...

I haven't seen a review or even screen shoots of either one of these. What
type of games are these? Thanks

Have you seen Under a Killing Moon by Access? Looks pretty good. Should be
out now or soon.


 * WaveRdr 1.02 Beta # 101 * 1024x768x256.... Sounds like one MEAN woman!


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From: BERT VAAGS                             Number: 11837
  To: LAURENT BRAMY                            Date: 01/08/94 11:16p
Subj: Nec 3Xi                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Laurent!

Dinsdag Januari 04 1994, Laurent Bramy writes to all:

 LB>>  Hello to everybody from France!

Hello this is a respond from the Netherlands...

 LB>>  I have a Pro Audio 16 sound card and I want to buy the new NEC 3xi CD
 LB>> rom drive. 1st) what do you think of it? 2nd) will the internal model
 LB>> have a lcd panel and the audio commands as the external one? 3rd) Will I
 LB>> have any problem to connect it to the scsi bus of my ProAudio16? Will I
 LB>> need additionnal SCSI cables?

I don't know much about the Nec but I can tell you everything about the Toshiba
3401 because I own this drive and it works GREEAAATTTTT !!!!!
But I do own a PAS 16 soundcard and I use the SCSI for my Toshiba and never had
any problem.
I don't think that you need to buy extra SCSI cables, because the PAS 16 has
and SCSI/2 connector

 LB>>  thanks in advance
 LB>>  bisoux
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Greetings: Bert...

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From: PETER LANE-COLLETT                     Number: 11838
  To: BRENDAN FARTHING                         Date: 01/08/94  3:43a
Subj: Australian Phone Disc                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message on <Jan 04> at <23:04>, Brendan Farthing of (3:712/218@FidoNet)
writes:

 BF> Does anyone out there have the Australian Phone Disc?

 BF> I have just bought one and it doesn't seem all it is cracked up to be. I
 BF> am having many problems with it and am wondering if anyone else has the
 BF> disc and is experiencing problems with it.

 BF> If anyone else is having problems with the disc then please reply here
 BF> so we can compare problems. I have sent a fax to the company and am
 BF> still awaiting a reply.

Do you have the blue one or the green one? If you have the old blue one then it
does have serious problems and needs to be upgraded to the newer green one. It
is not perfect but works well enough for what I paid for it.

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From: DENIS COLEMAN                          Number: 11839
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/06/94 10:07p
Subj: Proud to Announce - New Dealership.     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi,

I would like to take this chance to wish everyone a happy new year and to
announce a new dealership, i have become the Australian and New Zealand Dealer
for Dr. CD-ROM CD's, following are the titles, and i will be ordering a limited
quantity very soon. Price is $35 each.

Dr. Windows - Genuine
Dr. Games for Windows
Dr. Games for Dos
Dr. Shareware - Gold
Dr. Sound Factory
Dr. Graphics
Dr. Cliparts
Dr. Fonts
Dr. Tech
Dr. AVI for Windows

Best Regards Denis

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From: BOB BAIN                               Number: 11840
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/07/94 11:08p
Subj: GROLLIER'S WINDOWS/DOS                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 I have the DOS Version of The Software Toolworks Multimedia
 Encylclopedia ( ie Grolier's ) Version 5.01 but have also recently
 acquired the Windows version Grolier's ( labelled as such ) Release
 6.0.

 [ Both these disks are marked "Bundled Version: Not for Sale Seperately
 from Hardware" but this merely seems to push the price down. Both were
 about $50 Australian ( perhaps $35 US ) ]

 I am happy with the DOS version.  The limited amounts of video play
 well in a small window on my 486 20 MHZ IBM Clone with 8 MB RAM and a
 250 MB hard drive.

 I am not so happy with the Window's Version.  The video clips are
 identical but are:-

    a) Lacking in brightness.
    b) Full of chunkiness in outlines.
    c) Slow - stop/start/stop/start.

 I have a DFI VG-8000W/VG-8000WH 16-bit Super-VGA board that comes with
 a whole range of video drivers.  I have an ACER multisynch monitor.

 I am disappointed that both the video and the picture files are below
 the quality of the DOS version and that the Windows product leaves
 heaps upon heaps of temporary TEMP.. files in the root directory of the
 C: drive.

 Are there any thoughts or observations on this.  Would I have similar
 problems with other (more expensive) Window's Encylclopedias such as
 Microsoft's Encarta ?

                                  Bob

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From: RUSSELL COOK                           Number: 11841
  To: PAUL FARRAND                             Date: 01/06/94  7:17p
Subj: SBPII & Pana CR-562B                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi Paul,
 >         Anyone had any luck connecting the new panasonic drive to a
 > SBPro II?  The best I can do is get two CD-ROM devices by setting the
 > drive select on the CDROM to #1 position. If its set to 0 CDMKE doesnt
 > find any drives.  Ive tried the latest CDMKE.SYS and SBPRO.SYS with the
 > same results.
I have SBCD.SYS here and it works fine on mine. You're welcome to freq it or
logon and d/l after registering. Filename is SBPROCD.ARJ 304KB

 > Any help would be greatly appreciated!!
I know the feeling at times so I hope this helps :-)

regards russell

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From: LAURIE BATT                            Number: 11842
  To: KEITH RITCHIE                            Date: 01/04/94  8:23a
Subj: Ker--bussshhh                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

G'day Keith Ritchie, In a message on <Dec 31>, you said :

 KR> history. Contact the manufacturer since some have a
 KR> replacement policy.
 KR> Keith

I doubt any manufacturer would cover physical abuse. I would imagine he would
still pay full price.


                                        Laurie

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From: DANIEL PEACOCK                         Number: 11843
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/05/94  3:52p
Subj: Scsi Interface card                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I am interested in buying a normal speed Panasonic CDROM but it doesn't have an
interface card could anyone please tell me how hard it would be to get one, how
expensive and where?
Thanks






                                Daniel






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From: ANDREW MORRISON                        Number: 11844
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/04/94 11:40p
Subj: CD-ROM Drive Opinions                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi, i have a 386dx40 with standard SBlaster, and I have been blown away with
some CD titles. What is a decent drive to run with my system. Any opinions?!

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From: ANDREW LARMOUR                         Number: 11845
  To: BOB BREED                                Date: 01/08/94 12:28p
Subj: Kodak Photo-CD                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

<<***** On 01-01-94, Bob Breed wrote to Leslie Rhorer: *****>> BB> BB>     It
runs under windows, and installs about 1.6 megs of files BB> BB> on your HD
when you run the 'setup' program.
BB> BB>    This disk has 24 test images. They are in a format with a .PCD BB>
BB> extention. These images are huge!! The smallest one is 3.5 megs, BB> BB>
the largest is 5.7 megs.

Truth be known, Bob, each of these .PCD files actually contain 5 different
resolutions in what Kodak call an Image-Pak.  These are combined together and
compressed to .PCD files in the range 3.2Mb to 6.5Mb.
The resolutions are:

128x192      Base/16       72Kb      Thumbnail
256x384      Base/4        258Kb     For putting multi images on the
                                     screen
512x768      Base          1.1Mb     TV quality
1024x1536    4Base         4.5Mb     HDTV quality
2048x3072    16Base        18Mb      for high quality printing needs

There is one further resolution available only on the Pro Photo-CD

4096x6144    64Base        72Mb     for ultra high quality printing
                                    needs

Naturally, all of these are true colour images (24 bit) and their size will be
reduced to 33% of the original size if they are converted down to 8bit (256
colours).  In terms of quality, I have seen A4 colour seperations from the
16Base image, and let me tell you, they are as good as you will ever see in the
best quality magazines you can buy.

BB>    We're looking at this from two different viewpoints. You BB>appear to
have a 'professional' approach to what the CD should BB>be. I'm just a guy
taking snapshots of his grand-children and BB>would like some way to quickly
show these pictures without having BB>to set up a projector, screen etc.
BB>
BB>    It appears the CD fails both of us. You fault it for its lack BB>of
detail -- and I can only agree -- it will be many years before BB>the computer
screen/system can ever approach the detail in a BB>photograph, for the very
reason your message points out. (God, I BB>cant image trying to store and
display images in the giga-byte BB>range!)

A 35mm negative stores aproximately 33Mb of data, a 35mm slide holds a little
more.  As you can see, at the highest resolution in the image-pak you are about
half way to storing all the information of a 35mm neg.  If you opt for the pro
photo-cd, then the 64Base resolution stores significantly more information than
a 35mm neg.  Why all this wasted capacity I hear you ask...
Well,  Pro Photo-CD is capable of scanning negs (or trannies) up to 5x4" in
size.  5x4" negs can hold approximately 500Mb of data.

BB>    I fault it for being MORE that what I require. I want BB>something that
approaches SVGA resoloutions, stores lots of BB>images inexpensively, and shows
them quickly on a un-cluttered screen

Well it does that...  The scans are very cheap on a per image basis compared to
a commercial drum scan from a beurau.  You can just use the Base image (convert
it to 8bit if you want...  file size will then be around 380Kb) and then copy
those files as GIF's to your HD or a MO drive if you have access to one for
faster access.

BB>(Vpic has the slide-show down pat -- and the GIF format BB>would fill MY
needs. Heck, if I want true photo-quality pictures, BB>why not just get
prints?)

Therein lies the beauty of Photo-CD, you do still have negs so that you can
send some prints off to relies or get a poster for the lounge room if you want,
but you also have access to your images via a Photo-CD player or a cd-rom drive
equiped computer.

BB>    I also have another concern -- how long is the CD disk going BB>to last?
When I first read about the disk, I thought "Oh boy, it BB>should last FOREVER!
No magnetic field to collapse, no head wear BB>etc. -- gotta be THE answer to
long-term storage for computers. BB>    Now I see this isn't true! Some folks
are saying the disk BB>will start to fail after as few as 6 or 7 years --
something to BB>do with the reflective surface on the disk failing. (I don't
know BB>all of the details, but it sure sounds like the search must
BB>continue.)


All that I have heard about longevity if Photo-CD's suggests that - given good
storage conditions - they should last at least 100 years.  At any point in that
time, you can make a duplicate of that disk and thus extend it's life
by another 100 years.  Good storage for CD's is much the same as it is for
Photos.
ie.  cool, dark, low humidity and without extremes of temperature.

I hope that I have been of some asistance, feel free to comtact me if you ahve
any further questions....

Seeya
Andrew Larmour




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From: TED HARPER                             Number: 11846
  To: ANDREW SEE                               Date: 01/09/94  4:23p
Subj: Return to Zork                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi Andrew:

On Monday January 03 1994 13:26, Andrew See wrote to TED HARPER:

[ re: RTZ 1.1 update ]

 TH>> BTW, the sound isn't  really all *that* much better
 TH>> than 1.0 was (on my SBPro at least).

 AS> All of the SB/ SB pro/ SB16 's are using the Adlib music driver in RTZ.
 AS> (ADLIBFM.ADV) so the music will be the same.

Confirmed. This is definitely still the case with 1.1 unfortunately.

 AS> You can improve it though,
 AS> if you have another game which uses the "miles" sound drivers (*.adv)
 AS> get the SBPFM.ADV file from there, rename it ADLIB.ADV, and stick it in
 AS> your RTZ directory, then you'll get SBpro stereo 20 voice music...

<sigh> I don't have many other games at all, and definitely none which use
those *.ADV sound drivers. I guess I'll just have to enjoy it the way it is
now. Thanks for the information though.

ted.h.

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From: PETER BRYCE                            Number: 11847
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/09/94  7:53p
Subj: CD's at nice $                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi all. This message mainly concerns those CD users in Western Australia.
I'd just like to point out that I have no affiliation with the company I'm
about to mention other than being a satisfied customer. :-)

If you are about to buy a CD, check out the prices that "CD Rom Sales &
Software" have to offer. They usually have an ad in the Sunday Times Readers
Mart, but you can request a free catalogue from them if you wish.
CD Rom Sales & Software [phone]  (7 days a week)
                   FAX  [phone]  (24 hours a day)

            PO Box 1365,  Canning Vale,  Western Australia,  6155.
They've got all the latest entertainment software as well at good prices. ie.
Rebel Assault ... $69.00

(that's what I got and I'm >very< happy! :-)

Like I said, I haven't got anything to do with the company, but it's always
nice to know of another place to shop around.

.....seeyalater.

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From: LAURIE BATT                            Number: 11848
  To: BARRY SIBSON                             Date: 01/10/94  7:37a
Subj: Music CD codes                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

G'day Barry Sibson, In a message on <Jan 08>, you said :

 BS> Hi, everyone, Do you know if the contents of a music CD are
I believe that there is a code to identify the disk ,tracks and times

 BS> coded onto the disc?  If they are is there a program for
 BS> reading this info. into a disc library? The ultimate would

I have not seen any info on any other information encoded into these disks.


 BS> be a good CD player prog. for DOS/Win. coupled with the

There are CD Players that can read these codes now, but YOU must enter the
titles manually in the first instance. This information is stored in a database
on your computer. The next time you play this disk, it will recognise it and
will display all the track and title information.


                                        Laurie

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From: JOEL DUMAS                             Number: 11849
  To: STEVE MANN                               Date: 01/10/94 11:03p
Subj: Re: Jan 94 Catalogues FREE              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Steve Mann to All <=-

 SM> We have limited supplies of our January 1994 (preliminary) catalogue.
 SM>
 SM> It is preliminary because we are in negotiations with several new
 SM> distributors and are thus adding many new titles to our range *and*
 SM> reducing prices on some existing titles.  These will be sent tomorrow
 SM> to those already waiting.
 SM> If you would like to receive a free catalogue, of our CD-ROM titles
 SM> and MM Kits, then contact our office or send an e-mail/netmail
 SM> message.

 SM> Aesthetic Software P/L  PO Box 459 Gosford NSW, 2250 Australia
 SM> Voice/Fax:[phone]   BBS:(043) 23-9076   Fido: 3:711/440
 SM> VISA * MASTERCARD * BANKCARD * COD * CHEQUE

Could you send one to me please?:
                Joel Dumas
                9B Gresham St.
                Victoria Park
                WA 6100

Thanks,
Joel

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From: TODD COOPER                            Number: 11850
  To: STEVE MANN                               Date: 01/11/94  6:14p
Subj: A Hard Day'S Night                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Steve, would I be able to order a copy of the Beatles Movie CD-ROM
please. I can be contacted on 02 231-1111 during the day. I am would
like to pay COD, if possible. The above telephone number is a free call.
       Thanx in anticipation,
                             Todd Cooper.
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 X RM 1.2  X Eval Day 15 X ROBO who???

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From: STEPHEN HARRINGTON                     Number: 11851
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/12/94  5:06a
Subj: Latest Panasonic Driver                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I'm after the latest CDMKE.SYS driver for the Panasonic CR-562B...

The one I have is dated 20th April, 1993 and I believe there are later ones
than that around now... could anyone enlighten me as to the latest version
and where I could download it please?

Preferably Sydney, Australia but a board anywhere that will allow me to
grab it first call would do!

Thanks in advance
Stephen Harrington

 * Wave Rider 1.02 Beta # 122 *
... Reality is for people who can't handle Science Fiction...
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From: MALCOLM YOUNG                          Number: 11852
  To: BRENDAN FARTHING                         Date: 01/08/94  5:13p
Subj: Australian Phone Disc                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi Brendan,

 > Does anyone out there have the Australian Phone Disc?

Yes I have the 92/93 version.

 > I have just bought one and it doesn't seem all it is cracked up to be. I
 > am having many problems with it and am wondering if anyone else has the
 > disc and is experiencing problems with it.

What are your problems the only thing I find wrong with it is there is a limit
of three digits in the STD area code.  Some areas use more than three digits in
the area code.  Are you aware there is more than one phone disc some can be
used to produce mailing lists based on various fields of data.

For the price of the disc it is a good product.

Regards, Malcolm.

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From: JAMES R MARTIN                         Number: 11853
  To: STEVE MANN                               Date: 01/09/94  5:37p
Subj: Jan 94 Catalogues FREE                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 SM> If you would like to receive a free catalogue, of our CD-
 SM> ROM titles and MM Kits, then contact our office or send an
 SM> e-mail/netmail message.
Pls send me out your catalogue to:
  James R Martin
  73 Screen St,  Frankston, Vic, 3199
Thanks


... Catch the Blue Wave!
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From: IAN BISHOP                             Number: 11854
  To: PETER LANE-COLLETT                       Date: 01/10/94 10:12a
Subj: Australian Phone Disc                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

PL>>Do you have the blue one or the green one? If you have the
PL>>old blue one then it does have serious problems and needs
PL>>to be upgraded to the newer green one. It is not perfect
PL>>but works well enough for what I paid for it.

I'd agree with that.  The thing that is really crook about this product
is the fact that some of the data is over **!!5 Years!!** out of date.
I know this because one street in Penrith where I have stayed at times
has been a changed name for over 5 years and still ppears under its old
name in the database.

The phone book down there is, however, correct  :)

Regards, Ian

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From: CRAIG MEYERS                           Number: 11855
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/11/94 10:51p
Subj: Rebel Assault Codes                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

These are the passcodes to Rebel Assault on the Easy Level.
.
  Code  Chapter  Description
Falcon    4      Imperial Star Destroyer
Anoat     7      Imperial Prob Droids
Yuzzem   11      Yavin Training
Brigia   15      Death Star Trench Run
Greedo    -      Final Scene (Destruction on the Death Star)
.
I hope these help. Good luck and may the force be with You.
.
.
................cYa l8r!!!

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From: PAUL MUNZENBERGER                      Number: 11856
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/11/94  4:04p
Subj: Worm drive owner wanted!                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi,
   I am after somebody with a Write Once Read Many cd-rom drive
   for backup mainly.But have a few questions too.

                       Thanks
                             Paul Munzenbegrer


... BRE you later......dudes!
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From: ANDREW BISHOP                          Number: 11857
  To: GORDON PETERSON                          Date: 01/11/94  6:51a
Subj: Re: Mitshumi Dual & sound               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 GP> The Mitsumi Dual Speed ought to work with ANY sound card (as long as
 GP> you don't expect to replace the Mitsumi's interface board with some
 GP> kind of proprietary sound-card interface thing).  Why is it that so
 GP> many people seem to be so hung up on hooking their CD-ROM drive
 GP> DIRECTLY to their sound board, for heaven's sake??!!

To save using two slots in their computers I guess.  The number of drivers
might be reduced as well.

Andrew Bishop.

... Where love is thin, faults are thick.
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From: ANDREW BISHOP                          Number: 11858
  To: ROCCO SCARAMASTRO                        Date: 01/11/94  6:53a
Subj: Re: KQ6                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 RS> Need help on kq6.  How do I get past the minotaur in the labyrinth.
 RS> My wife is ready to throw the computer out if she doesn't get past it!
 RS> What do we need to get past the archer?  Thanks, Rocky

Wave something red at the minotaur, to get passed the archer, you need the
shield from the maze.

Andrew Bishop.

... Maj Kira-"Raise shields"  Chief O'brian-"What shields?"
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From: ANDREW BISHOP                          Number: 11859
  To: KYLE MACHULIS                            Date: 01/11/94  6:54a
Subj: Re: Lots 'O Questions!                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 KM> A few games I've played, like The Journeyman Project and Sherlock
 KM> Homes, just have save files on the HD. They are not that big either.

Seventy saved games in Return to Zork chewed up over 7 meg on my HDD.

Andrew Bishop.

... "Hmm... one bullet left. Think I can get them to line up?"
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From: ANDREW BISHOP                          Number: 11860
  To: LAURIE BATT                              Date: 01/11/94  7:01a
Subj: Re: Driver                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 AB> fine, the card I'm using is a laserwave.  The problem that
 AB> I'm having is that I cannot create a file or directory

 LB> but, why do you WANT to create this directory

I was trying to install After dark and it wanted to create a file laser.ad.


 LB> I imagine this is the laser.sys file it is a hidden file.

nup, this file shows up in every directory, even newly created ones.  Used
disk edit to look at the actual directory entries and it not in any of them.

 LB> post here a copy of your Autoexec and your config.sys and it will be
 LB> looked at and commented on. I suspect that you may have the setting
 LB> for Mscdex incorrect. The CDROM should appear as another Drive not
 LB> another directory.

DEVICE=C:\DOS\QEMM\LOADHI.SYS /RF d:\U\SOUND\LW16\LWDOS\LW16.SYS /D3 /I11
DEVICE=c:\dos\qemm\loadhi.sys /RF c:\dos\cddriver\cdmke43.sys /d:laser /n:1

c:\dos\qemm\loadhi /RF C:\DOS\mscdex /d:laser /m:8 /E /V

The CD works fine as F: but some how the driver seems to take over the word
LASER for some reason and I just want to know why.

Andrew Bishop.

... Back up my hard disk? I can't find the reverse switch!
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From: JAN JACOBSEN                           Number: 11861
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 01/11/94 10:19a
Subj: Free Cd Rom List                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

        Hello Joe
        Please Send Me A Free Cd Catelog List Of Cd's

        Jan Jacobsen
        10 pioneer ave
        O'Sullivan Beach 5166
        South Australia.

... Catch the Blue Wave!
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From: ANDREW SEE                             Number: 11862
  To: JOEL DUMAS                               Date: 01/11/94  9:27p
Subj: Re: New Sound Cards ?                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

JD>Where can you get one from?

Well it hasn't been released at this stage, but will be within a month
or so.

JD>Has it got a SCSI interface for CDROM?

Yes.

JD>Have you got the full specs at all?

Somewhere I think. I'll have a look, and netmail them to you.


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From: GLENN BRADY                            Number: 11863
  To: STEVE MANN                               Date: 01/09/94  1:09a
Subj: A Hard Day's Night                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Once upon a midnight dreary,
Steve Mann pondered, weak and weary,
Over many a quaint and curious volume of A Hard Day's Night.

SM> Meet the Beatles and make your PC rock and roll!  This
SM> QuickTime version of A Hard Day's Night brings the entire
SM> 90 minute film with lots of entertaining extras.

SM> Now taking orders with delivery sheduled for 13th Jan.

Please reserve me a copy. I will be paying by VISA card, and will either
call the BBS or phone your voice number.

I will wait until the fires are out before calling or do so late at night.

Hooroo for now
                 ?Glenn B.?


___
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From: GLENN BRADY                            Number: 11864
  To: PETER LANE-COLLETT                       Date: 01/10/94  1:10a
Subj: Australian Phone Disc                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Once upon a midnight dreary,
Peter Lane-Collett pondered, weak and weary,
Over many a quaint and curious volume of Australian Phone Disc.

PL> Do you have the blue one or the green one? If you have the
PL> old blue one then it does have serious problems and needs
PL> to be upgraded to the newer green one. It is not perfect
PL> but works well enough for what I paid for it.

How much is the upgrade? And what year was the data compiled. Mine is the
blue 92/93 A version, and it seems to be very old info.

Is there much difference in the interface or any upgrades other than the
data?

Hooroo for now
                 ?Glenn B.?


___
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From: BRIAN VINSON                           Number: 11865
  To: JASON WILLIAMS                           Date: 01/12/94 12:00a
Subj: Re: Gus & Pas Info                      Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No

 -=> Quoting Jason Williams to Marcus Lee <=-

 > Who is the distributor for GUS?

 JW> I'm not sure if it's out yet - it's meant to be out before
 JW> Christmas...  I don't know if the GUS has a proper
 JW> distributor over here...  Your best bet, I think, would be
 JW> Electronic Arts (on the Gold Coast).

 Do you know of a distributor for the GUS in Sydney??
I have been following your conversation and I am thinking that
the GUS may be the better sound card to buy.

 I have been looking at the Omni Labs Audio Master or the
SB16 asp with the waveblaster option. As you see I think that to
by a sound card and not have the wavetable is a backward step.

 You talk about software updates and other programes
are these available on BBS in Sydney or do they come as standard
updates for the GUS.
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12

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From: SCOTT GIBSON                           Number: 11866
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 01/12/94 12:28a
Subj: Cd-rom Catalog available                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 JL>                                Computer Works
 JL>                                 CD-Rom Sales
 JL>
 JL> We will mail a list of titles and prices to anyone requesting a copy
 JL> and posting their address.

Jim,

Please send me a copy. Thanks!

        Scott Gibson
        306 Burnwick Rd.
        Richmond, VA 23227-1633

... 3000 messages and all I got was this lousy tagline!
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From: NORM HILL                              Number: 11867
  To: DERICK MATHER                            Date: 01/11/94  6:49p
Subj: Total Shareware                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

DM>I purchased the MW CD disk TOTAL Shareware.  That is the first problem.
DM>I cannot figure out how to get the programs from the disk to my
DM>machine.
DM> I'm an old MAC person and not to good at the world of IBM.  I am
DM>running a 486 with cd and sound card.  If any body could help me I
DM>would
DM>really be greatful.  I feel a voice call would be best tht way the
DM>person could talk me through the proceedure. Please call  667-8251
DM>thank you      Derick Mather
How about an area code?

DM>--- QScan v1.04b
DM> * Origin: Muddy Waters Computer Society Inc. 1:348/206 (1:348/206)
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From: NORM HILL                              Number: 11868
  To: JOHN SEAMANS                             Date: 01/11/94  7:04p
Subj: Mitshumi Dual & sound                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

JS> The Logitech Soundman will hook up with the Mitsumi DS easily, as will
JS>the
JS>Soundblaser-16 and I believe the Soundblaster-pro.

JS>Many people want their cd-roms hooked to their soundcards to inable
JS>them
JS>to utilize programs that will play directly from the cd. I can think of
JS>several off hand ; Comptons Multi-media encyclopedia, MCS music rack,
JS>Day of the Tenticle, 7th Guest, (just about all CD-ROM entertainment
JS>packages). If the program is loaded into memory and then uses wave
JS>files or something similar then the direct hook up is not needed;
JS>otherwise it is very necessary.

Be sure of your facts before you publish in the conferences!!!!! It is
NOT true that you can't play directly from the cd.  As long as you have
the correct connector or fabricating one.   Documentation on the pin
outs are either in the tech manuals or can be obtained from the vendor
or even here on the net.  All of the software packages work fine on
several different CORRECTLY installed cd-rom's that I've installed.

                                        Norm Hill.
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 ■ OLX 2.1 TD ■ I haven't lost my mind...It's on tape backup!

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From: CHRISTOPH STEINECKE                    Number: 11869
  To: BAYANI CUSTODIO                          Date: 01/11/94 11:07p
Subj: Re: Kodak Photocd                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Bayani Custodio@1:348/105 meinte am 07.01.94
zum Thema "Kodak Photocd":

BC>BB>I would like to see it, and that's my beef. I don't mind paying
BC>BB>the cost to have them scanned, but to have them scanned, and
BC>BB>still be unusable seems odd. The Phillips CD player that is sold
BC>BB>to use this disk shows them full screen on a TV set, why can't we
BC>BB>get the same on a computer?
BC>
BC>KODAK ACCESS can display the image on PHOTO-CD in 5 different sizes on
BC>a VGA screen. I know cause I've tried it. Mind you on the last 2 sizes,
BC>LARGE and POSTER sizes, you only get to see part of the screen. I don't
BC>know of any other KODAK software that will translate the images to any
BC>other format since I only have ACCESS. However, I also purchased
BC>MATHEMATICA's ACCESS which is able to translate the images to almost
BC>any format I've heard of (except maybe MPEG but I haven't checked).

   Try Paint Shop Pro , it is ShareWare !

Bye
 Chris


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From: CHRISTOPH STEINECKE                    Number: 11870
  To: NATHAN MEIER                             Date: 01/11/94 11:10p
Subj: Re: cd-roms                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Nathan Meier@1:353/276 meinte am 07.01.94
zum Thema "cd-roms":

NM> JV> Can some tell me if the Mitsumi FX001d can read 680 Megs CD
NM> JV> disks...?
NM> JV> Or can the panasonic CR 563 or 562b can read up to 680 Megs...?
NM> JV> And which is faster...?
NM>
NM>I know for sure that the Mitsumi FX001d can read 630 MB CD disks but as for
NM>680 MB disks...

   Well I got the Mitsumi FX001d and I can read the Cinemania 94 as well
   as the Encarta 94 , which both have 678 MB on it !

Bye
 Chris


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From: CHRISTOPH STEINECKE                    Number: 11871
  To: CHRIS DONNEGAN                           Date: 01/11/94 11:11p
Subj: Re: CINEMANIA 94 REPORT !               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Chris Donnegan@1:322/360 meinte am 08.01.94
zum Thema "CINEMANIA 94 REPORT !":

CD>CS>Well I finally got my new Cinamania 94 finally shipped, and was both i
CD>CS>and dissapointed.
CD>
CD>Really? I like it better than the '92.
CD>
CD>CS>Impressed because of the many photos gallery the whole programm really
CD>CS>but ,
CD>
CD>Say what??
CD>
CD>CS>So many Actors are not mentioned and many movies are also not mentione
CD>CS>
CD>CS>In my opionion the Cinamania , since it is full, should have contained
CD>CS>Video Clips and more information about the
CD>CS>_not so well-known_ Actors !
CD>CS>
CD>CS>Any opinions ?
CD>
CD>Yeah. I think it's good. I don't think those actors would be readily found
CD>in *any* currently available movie\movie industry review books.
   They are all in the Movie Database of the Internet though,
   and the CD has the space, it would have been no problem
   to include the actors in !


Bye
 Chris


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From: CHRISTOPH STEINECKE                    Number: 11872
  To: ALLE                                     Date: 01/11/94 11:27p
Subj: Great Photo Viewer !                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hallo !


Since everybody is talking about Photo CD and Viewing Programs
I want to recomend a great viewer Program.

It is called _Personal Photo Viewer_ and runs under Windows.

It is much better than Kodak oder Tempra Photo Access, because
it is really fast in loading the images,

you can run a SlideShow you can choose the Slideshow like
1.2.3.4.5.6.....100
or
100.99.98.97......0
or
5.78.2.55.48.75

sorry but I'm missing the word !

The Picure is in Full Screen (just like you would watch a GIF
und VPIC), but of course due to the resolutions you miss a small
part of the Window , if you're running under 640*480, but I guess
most people do , since the normal VGA Cards only do True Colour
in that mode, but anyway Windows is 640*480 and the picture
is 768*512, so you can figure out what is missing, but it doesn't
bother at all.

I paid for the CD (which includes 24 Photos) 30,- DM, which is about
17,-$

If anyone is intereset heres the adress of the company, which made the
programm :

Software Dynamics Gmbh
Am Fallturm 5
28359 Bremen, Germany
Telefon : [phone]
FAX     : [phone]
Hot-Line: 049-0421-219884

The Programm is about 1MB long, an runs fine with 4MB RAM !

Bye
 Chris


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From: AKIM SISSAOUI                          Number: 11873
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/11/94 12:25p
Subj: Corel Draw                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello All!

I search Corel draw 3 CD ONLY or Corel Draw 4 Update of 3 with CD...

How many cost that ???

Akim

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From: CHRISTIAN BOURGUIGNON                  Number: 11874
  To: KARSTEN ROSE                             Date: 01/12/94 10:05p
Subj: NEC 3Xi OS/2 2.1 Driver                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I have the same drive but can you use the NEC 84 driver within OS/2 2.1?
If you find a driver for this drive, please let me know, I have no idea when a
new driver will become available...

Chris
Greets from Canada


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From: ARNIE GROSS                            Number: 11875
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 01/11/94  9:42a
Subj: Re: NEW CD'S                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Boris -

   BO> OS/2 Companion      470+ megs - 2,400+ files - BBS Ready
   BO>                     Loaded with graphics, multimedia,
   BO>                     networking, fonts and more!

Is this the 11/93 release from Tropical Publishing?

What percentage of this disc is for OS/2 version 1.x ???

I was very disappointed with the Hobbes disc because of the
amount of out-dated files, whereas I'm told the OS/2 Box
(Damar) is all 2.x stuff.

How do these three discs compare?

   BO> Price - $16.00 ec + Free Diagnostic cd offer

Good price!  Is the freebie the Profit Press disc, or something newer?

                                                  - Arnie :+}

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From: D. PILEGGI                             Number: 11876
  To: TERRY BLOUNT                             Date: 01/12/94  8:06p
Subj: $99 cd rom drives                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello again,

  Okay.  What is the price for an audio cable; CD Rom to sound card.
Thank you for the your reply.

                                               Sincerely yours,

                                                David Pileggi

[> Be Seeing You -- DPileggi
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From: VINCE SORENSEN                         Number: 11877
  To: TERRY BLOUNT                             Date: 01/11/94  9:19p
Subj: GOOD SHAREWARE CDS                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> BTW... did you write one of these shells for a shareware cd?

   Yep, sure did... I wrote the shareware program CD-ROM PRO, and the
interfaces on Shareware Explorer and the Shareware Studio series are
based on it.

   Vince
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From: ANDREW BARNHARDT                       Number: 11878
  To: KEVIN O'BUCKLEY                          Date: 01/12/94  4:51p
Subj: CHOICES!!!                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

)) Kevin O'buckley to All about 'CHOICES!!!':

 KO> I'm having a real problem choosing between two software packages:
 KO> Should I buy The Seventh Guest or Return to Zork?
 KO> They both look excellent, and cost the same for me.
 KO> If anyone has experience with both games,
 KO> please let me know which you prefer...

Seventh Guest isn't at all as good as the graphics would make you want to
believe.  The game is just a bunch of frustratingly difficult puzzles that
basically, when solved, just activate small cinematic sequences.  I've seen
Return to Zork pictures and a small about of what the gameplay is like, it
looks like a very nice CD game.  Definitely go for Return to Zork over
Seventh Guest.

= Andrew B.

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From: RAPHAEL VANNEY                         Number: 11879
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/12/94  5:49p
Subj: Sb16/cr562b/os2                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi there !

Well, I guess the subject line tells it all <g>. I'm currently
using a Panasonic CR-562B plugged to a SoundBlaster 16, within
OS/2 2.1GA.

I'm using some driver I found on a local BBS, but I've still
got a problem : CDPM, the PM CD player, won't let me redirect
the CD output to the SoundBlaster line out. I can do it with
the Win-OS/2 programs, but not with CDPM. Anyone luckyer than
me ? Any special driver around ?

I'm also wondering if Creative Labs is planning to write an OS/2
version of its Windows mixer program -which I quite like.

Any input welcome ;-)

Sala kahle,                                       RVa


... En ce qui concerne le mur, c'est moi qui l'ai construit.
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From: DAVE WONG                              Number: 11880
  To: STEAN SNYMAN                             Date: 01/11/94 12:19p
Subj: Return to zork cd 4 sale                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

You get the joke book at the intersection where jack in the box clown is at.
Witch Itach is at where the boat ben rents to you leads you.  Ben is at where
you turn facing the lower bridge in town.  you should be able to go left from
there.  Yes I do have net mail. Try 1:343/49  Dave Wong. Later.


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From: MARTIN KELLERMAN                       Number: 11881
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/12/94 12:58a
Subj: BORLAND C/C++ 4.0 CD-ROM                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I have a Toshiba 3401B CD-ROM drive and an adaptec 1542C SCSI adaptor. I
use Corel SCSI! drivers. Normally I can access CD-ROMs with no problem,
but when I try to access the Borland C/C++ version 4.0 CD-ROM, there
seem to be no files or directories in the whole CD-ROM. However, the
CD-ROM works OK on my friend's computer.

Any idea why this is?


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From: TERRY BERGERON                         Number: 11882
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 01/13/94  7:31p
Subj: !free Cd catalog!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

* In a message originally to All, Joe Rinehart was overheard saying:
 JR> *********** FREE HUGE CD-ROM DISC & accessories
 JR> CATALOG!*************
 JR> For the largest selection & lowest prices, get our NEW
 JR> catalog...
 JR> If you'd like a printed copy, send your mailing information
 JR> to us.
 JR> We offer CDLIST file attach's upon request.
 JR> CATALOG FREQ: cdlist.zip    (over 1,100 cd-rom disc titles
 JR> available)
Yea, I would like to have that catalog!!
My address:
Terry Bergeron
#4 Fernwood Drive
Houma, LA  70364
.
How much do yall sell??
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From: MICHAEL PHUONG                         Number: 11883
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/13/94 10:18p
Subj: NEC CDROM DRIVE WANTED                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I looking for used NEC CDR-74 CD-ROM Drive.  If you have one for sale,
please contact me at [phone] or reply here.

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From: JASON KOLLER                           Number: 11884
  To: KAY MONTES                               Date: 01/13/94  4:54p
Subj: Cdrom/printer/mice                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> JK-=>Please include $2.90, and I will send it second day air USPS.
-> Thanks!
->
-> I'll send off a check tomorrow.  Thanks.

Great!  Thanks a lot!

@X09-Jason@X0F

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From: JOEL DUMAS                             Number: 11885
  To: ANDREW MORRISON                          Date: 01/11/94  9:42p
Subj: Re: CD-ROM Drive Opinions               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Andrew Morrison to Laurie Batt <=-

 AM> Hi laurie, thanks for you'r reply. Recently I have seen that tri &
 AM> quad speed drives are becoming available. I think NEC make a tri speed
 AM> at about $999. I might hang out & wait for the technology to filter
 AM> down and get cheaper. I was thinking of just buying the CD-Rom &
 AM> controller card only as long as I can set its Interupts/DMA Channels.

That $999 is that tax inclusive?  Where can I get one at this price?

Cheers,
Joel

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From: POE LIM                                Number: 11886
  To: ROD SPEED                                Date: 01/13/94 12:17a
Subj: Cd Rom                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Rod,

On Jan 09 09:01 in a msg to Poe Lim, Rod Speed of 3:711/934 wrote:

 RS> Things have managed to get rather comprehensively garbled over
 RS> time too. I was talking specifically about the SB16ASP too. Its

I think we should also mention the CD reader; if it's the 563, chase up
Creative Pacific. If it's the 562B with the 4.12 drivers, you're SOL, although
other drivers will work.

Cheers,
Poe

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From: TAMMY POPE                             Number: 11887
  To: ALL                                      Date: 12/25/93 12:49p
Subj: diff btw cd & hd games                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

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From: JASON WILLIAMS                         Number: 11888
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/12/94 12:24a
Subj: PAS-16/GUS                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I don't know what everyone was complaining about the GUS's setup utilities...

I just helped a friend set up his PAS-16 - and all of the setup utilities are
MUCH more complicated than on my GUS...  It caused so much more complication
than my GUS did it's not funny.

To start with, you have to load that stupid MVSOUND driver file whatever sound
you want to make - even native sound...  At least the GUS's sound only needs to
use drivers for the SB emulation...  And the soundblaster sound sounds that bad
anyway it's not really worth emulating...  Isn't the PAS s'posed to emulate the
SB-PRO...  I couldn't get it to work for the life of me with epic pinball & a
few others...

After what I'd read, I thought the pas's setup would be much simpler & better
than the GUS's - but if anyone tells you that, it's crap...

-+-
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From: MARCUS LEE                             Number: 11889
  To: JASON WILLIAMS                           Date: 01/11/94 11:35a
Subj: Gus                                     Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No

[deleted]

JW> > JW> distributor over here...  Your best bet, I think, would be JW>
JW> > Electronic Arts (on the Gold Coast).

JW> > Is that a guess? I noticed Games R Us and Mr Toys sold GUS' for a
JW> > while. Does Anyone sell them anymore?

JW>I haven't been watching it - I'm not trying to buy one anymore.  Electronic
JW>Arts is supposed to be offering support to the GUS, so I
JW>guess they're the distributor; but I gave up on them long
JW>ago.

Steven Lutrov netmailed me, and said Ben Coleman @3:635/ 541 handles
distribution from Gravis Canada.

JW> > True. Actually I've found the GUS a little too simple for my liking.
JW> > I would have preferred alot more utilities etc.

JW>You can get them all from support boards.  The nearest
JW>'official' one is Paranomia in Melbourne; some boards have
JW>a few files over here - check Tequila Sunrise, Liquid Metal
JW>and ESE Escape.

But most impose ULDL ratios... :-(

Regards.
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From: MARCUS LEE                             Number: 11890
  To: JASON WILLIAMS                           Date: 01/11/94 11:37a
Subj: Gus 2/2                                 Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No

JW> > Yep I can't detect anything different. And, since the music is better
JW> > through the GUS, the GUS ends up being a better option in games than
JW> > PAS16 + GUS/Roland. Thats what made me say I might just end changing
JW> > over completely.

JW>In games that are programmed well, you'll get a performance
JW>boost by using the GUS for the digital sound.

Really? How? I would presume PAS16 and GUS' both have a max of 16bit
44.1khz sampling anyhow?

JW>BTW, you never answered what you were using to evaluate
JW>that the GUS' MIDI wasn't much better than the PAS16's...

Windows midi player....

Regards.

PS: Sorry for how long I've taken to reply-I've been away.
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From: GRANT BEATTIE                          Number: 11891
  To: JASON WAGNER                             Date: 01/10/94  8:45a
Subj: CD Format                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

* In a message originally to All, Jason Wagner said:

JW> Do they make 3" CD-ROM disks?  It would seem better to me to
JW> put programs
JW> (such as games) that don't have 660MB of data on a smaller
JW> disk... maybe
JW> its impracticle, maybe I'm just dumb.. <G>

Not at all! there have been a few 3" cd-rom's produced, but not many (yet!)

I agree, it would be more practical and possibly easier to distribute 3" cd's
rather than the 5" that we're used to...

I had a copy of King's Quest V on loan for a while, and it only took 115mb...

Maybe these companies might see the light some time and start producing 3" cd's
on a large scale <grin!>

Anyway...

      (`'`)
     ( o o )
--ooO- (_) -Ooo--

Grant

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From: GRANT BEATTIE                          Number: 11892
  To: JASON WAGNER                             Date: 01/10/94  8:47a
Subj: Lots 'O Questions!                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

* In a message originally to All, Jason Wagner said:

JW> SCSI or daisy-chainable drive.  Is this right?  Then is the
JW> controller a
JW> simple AT BUS 8 bit card, without the possibility of
JW> expanding to more
JW> SCSI devices off of it?

Well, its not an SCSI controller card in the first place, its an IDE...four
drives can be chained onto the same controller card...(but you will need a
multiple IDE ribbon to do this)...

Anyway...

      (`'`)
     ( o o )
--ooO- (_) -Ooo--

Grant

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From: TONY STOTT                             Number: 11893
  To: MARCUS SPEARS                            Date: 01/13/94  8:06a
Subj: Not Caddy Wars!                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On 12-15-93,  Marcus Spears elucidated to Mike Mesenbrink:

MS>(4) How do you put CDs into the drive?  There's two basic styles.  For
MS>keeping the internal devices clean, there's no comparison to the caddy
MS>style; the CD is kept in a caddy, and the entire unit is slid into the
MS>CD-ROM drive.  On the other hand, the caddys cost about $3 each, and a
MS>easy to break, so if you have young children, go for the mechanical
MS>assembly in which a tray slides out of the housing to directly accept
MS>the CD-ROM.

Whoa there! This is NOT round twenty seven in the caddy wars, but
are you sure about that logic, that caddies are fragile, so young
children are better trusted with bare cds? I would have thought
that caddies are relatively rugged (not like jewel cases, which
easily break at the hinge points), and can even be taped shut if
needs be. I would have even thought that having young children
around is one of the few indisputable reasons why caddy drives have
value...

To other readers... please do NOT take the opportunity to reopen
the war, my point is specifically questioning the comment that
caddies are fragile, as this is the first time I have heard about
such a "problem".

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From: DAVID SILVER                           Number: 11894
  To: BRIAN ELFERT                             Date: 01/11/94  8:26a
Subj: Christmas stuff!?                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi Brian,

Thursday January 06 1994 07:09, Brian Elfert wrote to David Silver:

 ->> I had the same problem with Corel SCSI! and an Adaptec 2742 and the
 ->> P First of all, refused to recognize the Adaptec and then would
 ->> only gi drive letter for the 604X.  A total waste of money on my
 ->> part - and t released 2.0 within a week of my purchasing 1.2 and
 ->> they STILL want a upgrade fee.  Great company - not...

 BE> Actually, call 1-800-836-SCSI and they'll probably upgrade your 1.2b
 BE> to 2.0 for $15.  But, you probably don't want to do that.  They

I would hope they can do better than that - will wait and see what they reply
to a letter from my side.

 BE> I did get the Pioneer to work by getting a hold of Corel SCSI Pro.

I wound up using the Adaptec ASPI driver and then the one that came with the
Pioneer.  Took me about 5 hours to get things up and running - when it should
only have taken a few minutes.  The holdup was that useless Corel package...



David

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From: DAVID SILVER                           Number: 11895
  To: TERRY BLOUNT                             Date: 01/11/94  8:30a
Subj: CREAM OF THE CROP II                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi Terry,

Saturday January 08 1994 09:57, Terry Blount wrote to David Silver:

 DS>> I used the PCBoard util to make use of the filelistings with
 DS>> a CDROM door and it worked very well.

 TB> Check file area #2... I think the Business listings were
 TB> appended to the BBS listing when that utility ran.

So they were - but it also created the Business dir files as well, so I didn't
notice until just now.  Thanks.

 DS>> Do you have any plans
 DS>> on making these free standing utils?

 TB> I'm not sure what you mean by "free standing?"

To be used on any CD.  There was a blurb in the readme about only using these
files.bbs creation utils for the Cream disk itself - wasn't there?

 DS>> When is your next planned release?

 TB> It depends on how long it takes me to collect 650 + high quality
 TB> files. That is the difficult part now that I've written about 20
 TB> utilities to help me efficiently organize the data.

Take your time - quality is the keynote.  With CDs being released almost
everyday recapping what each other has, it's easy to waste money and put up a
poorly thought out CD.



David

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From: DAVID SILVER                           Number: 11896
  To: BILL ARRINGTON                           Date: 01/11/94  9:08a
Subj: Sticky Roms                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi Bill,

Friday January 07 1994 00:18, Bill Arrington wrote to 604x Owners:

 BA> one after the other they change properly in most cases. If I let it
 BA> set for awhile and then attemp even a magazine eject then the cassette
 BA> will come out but the cdrom does not come with it. I have to manually
 BA> remove it. Is there a way to clean them? It may be more than that.

Before looking for a repair person, try using another cassette to load with.  I
bought a package of 3 6CD cassettes (made by Pioneer) for 28 bucks.  It would
probably be worth your while to borrow one from someone else (if possible)
first or just purchase a new one and see if that doesn't fix your problem.


David

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From: DAVID SILVER                           Number: 11897
  To: TONY DAVIS                               Date: 01/11/94  9:15a
Subj: OBSCENE CD-ROMS                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi Tony,

Friday January 07 1994 08:35, Tony Davis wrote to All:

 TD> The following is a list of the available text files describing the
 TD>  current status of the legal situation on :

I'm not personally familiar with your situation Tony and I wish you no harm,
but, if all this results in the outlawing of public access to "adult" (what a
pathetic misnomer) BBS material, then I certainly hope it happens. That kind of
crap - hiding behind the old "freedom of expression" - banner is clutting up
far too many airwaves as it is.


David

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From: STEVE ANTES                            Number: 11898
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 01/11/94 10:10p
Subj: Re: List                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 * Reply to msg originally in CDROM Info/Sales

 BO> Not a problem Steve !! If your in fidonet, we'll crash you over a
 BO> copy.
 BO> Watch for it soon...and thank you for your interest.

    I watched for and I got it.  Thanx!

    Oh, uh,  one question... I just made out my order and printed
the form and it says "Prices Good Through December 1993."

    Things that make you go Hmmmmmmmmmmm!  Should I wait to mail this
until I get the Jan '94 update?  Or can I assume (nasty word, that) that
I'll not go too far wrong paying what they were worth two weeks ago?

    Again, 'preciate the list.
... No wanna work.  Wanna bang on keyboard.
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From: ROBERT CASTELO                         Number: 11899
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/09/94  4:03p
Subj: tipical question                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi you all!

this is the first time I read and write in this echo, and I think my question
should be the most frequent question :-)

I've to buy a cd drive, and I meet some friends they've had many problems with
their cd and several operating systems like OS/2, or unix, or windows NT, they
are using a sound blaster card to control de cd drive.

I'm afraid with this problems, and I've heard that the best choice is to buy a
cd drive with a scsi card, then....

Is the cd drive with a scsi card really the best choice?

Can my IDE hdd card lives with a scsi cd card?

Which cd drive model have I to ask for, that allows me to read any kind of cd?
If it not exists, which is the most standard cd drive model?

my budget is about 300$,

thanks a lot, robert

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From: GORDON PETERSON                        Number: 11900
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 01/07/94  4:23a
Subj: CDROM Systems                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

DC> BO> US Express Mail ( Cheaper & Trackable)

DC>Cheaper to ship than Fed Ex and UPS for sure, but not easier to track.
DC>I sent the 4th huge order I have had from a gentlemen in Italy and it didn't
DC>show up after 2 months.  I contacted the US postal service to track it and t
DC>didn't even have the number on file.  They sent a request to Italy to find t

Speaking of which, did the first of those two Hitachi external drives
you sent me almost two years ago ever turn up?  There's never been any
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From: GORDON PETERSON                        Number: 11901
  To: DON KULHA                                Date: 01/07/94  4:35a
Subj: Multimedia Authoring                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

DK>   Since I haven't seen much discussion of it here I was wondering if there
DK>were any echos where discussion of multimedia tools, authoring, title
DK>production were held.

DK>   I'm also interested in front ends for organizing and delivering info on C
DK>Info primarily would be graphics files....pcx/gif/avi...reccomendations/info
DK>licensing/etc. much appreciated.

One worth looking at... which is delivered on a CD-ROM along with a
bunch of sound bytes you can use royalty-free, Kodak Photo-CD access
software, a copy of the fine Tempra GIF graphics drawing program, plus a
distributable royalty-free runtime... is Tempra Vision.  Should cost
about $60-90 depending on what kind of a deal you find on it.  At that
price, it's a steal.  Supports multiple VISCA VCRs, touch screens,
interactivity, about eight different sound cards, all kinds of neat
stuff.

If you need more, there's their professional-grade Tempra Media Author.

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From: RAPHAEL VANNEY                         Number: 11902
  To: NORM HILL                                Date: 01/13/94  3:51p
Subj: Sb pro and panasonic 562b               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Norm Hill,  propos de SB PRO AND PANASONIC 562B :
(Le 01-0394  23:47, crivant  All)

 NH> Just to let everybody know, you can install a 562B in a OS/2 2.1
 NH> environment.

_Good_ news ;-)
Are you able to play audio CDs through the SoundBlaster's line
out with OS/2's CD player ? If so, I'd be interrested in the details.

 NH> Anyway,
 NH> the Omni CD/Creative Labs file called SBCD2.ADD dated 11/19/93 will
 NH> support IBM ISA CD-ROM's, the Panasonic 521,523,562,563, etc, both SB &
 NH> SCSI Adapter configurations.

Where do I find this one ? Do you know of a place where I can
f'req it ?

Thanks, and

Sala kahle,                                       RVa


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From: RAPHAEL VANNEY                         Number: 11903
  To: JOE REINHART                             Date: 01/13/94  6:27p
Subj: !free cd catalog!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

!FREE CD CATALOG!

If France is included in your offer, I'd appreciate (and use,
expectedly ;-)) a free copy of your catalog.

Raphal Vanney
5, terrasse des REFLETS
92400 COURBEVOIE
FRANCE

Thanks,

Sala kahle,                                       RVa


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From: LESLIE RHORER                          Number: 11904
  To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                       Date: 01/13/94 11:38p
Subj: Re: KODAK PHOTOCD                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 BF> > BB> (VPIC uses the full screen to
 BF> > BB> display GIFs. It also auto sizes the file to fit your screen
 BF> > BB> within some limits. This software doesn't.)

 BF> >        You have that backwards.  VPIC (and CSHOW) do not
 BF> change the image
 BF> >resolution to size it.  Rather, they change the SCREEN
 BF> resolution to best match
 BF> >the picture resolution, thus allowing optimal viewing parameters

 BF>  CSHOW will in fact map the picture resolution to the screen resolution, I
 BF> think VPIC will also do so.

        Not the versions that I have.  It is of course possible that newer
versions of either do implement this feature.

 BF> I have viewed 1024x800 pictures here that way,
 BF> despite the fact that my monitor is SINGLE-SYNC VGA only
 BF> and won't DO more than
 BF> 640x480 (or 800x600 if I "fiddle" with the Horizontal Hold)....


        That does not necessarily mean that the software dithers the image.  My
versions both simply cut off the right side of the display if the image is past
the horizontal screen limit, and allow scrolling vertically if the image is
taller than the physical screen.  Try selecting a lower resolution screen, and
see if the image is not in fact cut off even further.  Of course, unless the
image is dithered, selecting a HIGHER screen resolution than the image map
simply results in a tinier picture, filling up a smaller portion of the screen.

                                                        Les

When I was your age, hard drives were as big as pizzas!

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 11905
  To: JESSE SCHMELZER                          Date: 01/13/94 10:12a
Subj: Re: 6 DISK CHANGERS                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> What about the 1804X how much for it when it come out's in Feb??

It'll be $1,885 bare cash price plus shipping.
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From: DAVE REED                              Number: 11906
  To: LOUISE NORTON                            Date: 01/13/94  9:25p
Subj: Ferrets                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Louise!

Tuesday January 11 1994 18:29, Louise Norton wrote to All:

 LN> Hello All.  We are starting a new project for entertainment in our
 LN> household this year....It is call project SAVE.  we have made arrangments
 LN> to rescue all Ferrets brought into our Humane Society,  At present ANY
 LN> Fwrret brought in is put to sleep without fail..  we have decieded to run
 LN> a clearing house for all Ferrets ...keeping track of lost and found pets
 LN> as well as saving those about to be put to sleep. After a week of cheaking
 LN> out other plans on the coast we have started our program here.  we now
 LN> have two of our own and a new one that was crippled and left.  We would
 LN> welcome any information you may have and also more than willing to work
 LN> with you in any way.  If you have a used or unwanted Ferret PLEASE leave
 LN> us a line here and we will get back to you.   Thanks ever.  LOUISE

I'm running out of things to shoot at for target practice.  I'd be glad to take
some off your hands, as moving targets are much more fun.  And I'll make a
CD-ROM, complete with photos, to keep things on-topic for this conference.

Later,

Dave

... It's the criminals stupid, not the guns!

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From: ROBERT BRIGGS                          Number: 11907
  To: MIKE GERVASI                             Date: 01/14/94  3:49p
Subj: Cd's wanted                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Thanks!  Seem to have located a copy.  Now if I could only find a copy of my
Fun-N-Games CD <sigh>.....

===Bob Briggts

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From: DAVID STROME                           Number: 11908
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/13/94 12:26p
Subj: speed                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello All!

What is the standard speed today for CD-Rom drives? 320 ms? 300?

Hasta la Bye-Bye,
David.

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From: GARY HUFF                              Number: 11909
  To: TRANE FRANCKS                            Date: 01/13/94  5:29p
Subj: Re: Good ShareWare CD                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

TF> I'm so fickle. I picked up Night Owl 10 the other day. The
TF> users have gone gaa-gaa over it. ;-)

TF> I -=LOVED=- how easy it was to setup with RA. Didn't have to
TF> do anything fancy at all. Very, very nice. Just had to
TF> remove 3 blank lines from the top of all the filedata areas
TF> that were in the files.bbs. No big deal. ;-) And no problem
TF> to remove the 3 suspect files from access; SPORT21C.ZIP,
TF> SF2_UP.ZIP, FUTURE1.EXE.

Yeah, I found the Nightowl 10 disk to be very easy as well.  Those
PCBoard directories can be converted rather easily.  I don't understand
why CD-ROM manufacturers can't put more variety in directory
listings...  I mean, the format of the different types of BBS
directories isn't a deep dark secret.  Why some of them insist on
making their directory listings so tough to work with is beyond me.  It
would make more sense if they'd just produce directories for at least
the major BBS formats...  RBBS, PCBoard, Wildcat, GAP, etc. ...  this
FILES.BBS (and no other format) just doesn't cut it.  I've got a
Phoenix 4 CD-ROM that I'm not even going to try to put on-line...  the
directory structure is ridiculous.

 GH> if you're talking about "Classical" programs, then I'd recommend the
 GH> PC-SIG collection.  There's where all your "Classical" programs can be
 GH> found... word processors, data bases, spreadsheets, etc.  Oldies but
 GH> goodies.

TF> This I will keep in mind for later. I fully intend on
TF> getting a CD-ROM changer for the board one of these days.
TF> Well, that is if the MAC (Materials Acquisition Coordinator,
TF> aka Wife) will allow it. Not likely after my last $1400
TF> bundle of toys.<g>

Yes, there are times when I'm glad I'm single!  My cat never asks for
an explanation of what that credit card bill sitting on the table is
for!

TF> Thanks ever so much for all the help, mate. I've learned an
TF> awful lot about what goes on in the CD world since picking
TF> up this echo. It's been a pleasure.

Don't send thanks...  send Gyoza!  <big grin!>


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From: TERRY JACKSON                          Number: 11910
  To: GENE WILSON                              Date: 01/14/94  2:23a
Subj: Freeing up space                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 On 01-10-94 Gene Wilson wrote to Terry Jackson...

 GW> Terry,
 GW>  I have been using QEMM memory manager and I am very happy
 GW> with its service. It has a unique feature called stealth
 GW> mapping (ST:M) which takes system ROM in the upper memory
 GW> area and remaps it into expanded or extended memory.I have
 GW> been able to gain 192K in upper memory. I have a total of
 GW> 633K free in conventional memory and have a CD-
 GW> ROM,SCANNER,MOUSE,DISK CACHE,AND OTHERS LOADED HIGH.
 GW>                                                 Try it you'll like it,
 GW>                                                 Gene Wilson


I realize their are better memory managers than those which came
with Dos 6. Would you tell me how large the drivers are for your CD
and scanner? I expect to be shopping for a CDROM come mid February.
                     Thanks,
                           Terry
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From: ERIC ENGELMANN                         Number: 11911
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/13/94 10:11p
Subj: AutoCAD Shareware CDROM File Counts     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Here are file counts for the Dec'93 AutoCAD Shareware library (on 2 CDROM set
from EMS Prof. Shareware, $59.50 list, Voice:301-924-3594.

***  Types of PD/SW Files in the Current CADUTIL Directory  ***
                       12/05/93
3-D AutoLISP       21  ACAD Education     11  ADS                 2
ADS Information     2  Animator Movies    14  Architect AutoCAD  32
AutoCAD Benchmarks  2  AutoCAD Blocks     41  AutoCAD Database    2
AutoCAD Demos      11  AutoCAD Drawing    76  AutoCAD Employment  1
AutoCAD Fun        10  AutoCAD Hatch      15  AutoCAD Info       34
AutoCAD Menus      15  AutoCAD Newsletter 14  AutoCAD Slide       8
AutoCAD Text Font  60  AutoCAD Utility    87  AutoFLIX Movies    17
CADalyst Code       7  Civil AutoCAD      20  Dimension Utility  18
Drawing Conversion  5  Drawing Utility    61  Drawing Viewer      3
Drivers             3  Editing Utility    38  Electrical ACAD     2
Electronic ACAD    11  File Management    16  GIS & Mapping       3
Information         2  Layer Utility      17  Mechanical ACAD    29
Misc. AutoLISP    141  Misc. Utilities     3  OS/2 Support        1
Piping AutoCAD      1  Print/Plot Utility 23  Programming Utils. 22
Rendering Software  2  Security            1  SQL                 1
Text Editing        2  Text Utility       57  Translator          3
Total Files in Library:  967
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From: JOE RINEHART                           Number: 11912
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/13/94  6:39a
Subj: !free Cd catalog!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

*********** FREE HUGE CD-ROM DISC & accessories CATALOG!*************
For the largest selection & lowest prices, get our NEW catalog...
If you'd like a printed copy, send your mailing information to us.
CATALOG FREQ: cdlist.zip (over 1,100 cd-rom disc titles available)44k
DESCRIPT FREQ: descript.zip   (about 800 cd-rom disc descriptions)70k
        Internet: [e-mail]
    FidoNet: 1:157/479 - RBBSNet 8:965/13 - KesherNet 18:711/176
Joe Rinehart / config.sys, Inc.    Voice: [phone]  -  24 hours
P.O. Box 27                        Data/Fax: [phone]
Kent, Ohio 44240-0001              >>>INTERNATIONAL ORDERS WELCOME<<<

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From: JOE RINEHART                           Number: 11913
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/13/94  6:39a
Subj: Cd-rom Drives+                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

********* Refurbished  Hitachi Model 3600 CD-ROM DRIVES $130 *********
********* Refurbished  Hitachi Model 3500 CD-ROM DRIVES $120 *********
********* Refurbished SCSI NEC Model 36   CD-ROM DRIVES $130 *********
These units are also available needing refurbished at 50% off!
Catalog of 1,200+ CD-Titles and hardware products available-CDLIST.ZIP
           Internet: [e-mail]
      FidoNet 1:157/479 - RBBSNet 8:965/13 - KesherNet 18:711/176
Joe Rinehart / config.sys, Inc.     Voice: [phone]  -  24 hours
P.O. Box 27                         Data/Fax: [phone]
Kent, Ohio 44240-0001               >>>INTERNATIONAL ORDERS WELCOME<<<

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From: JOE RINEHART                           Number: 11914
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/14/94  3:36a
Subj: !free Cd catalog!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

*********** FREE HUGE CD-ROM DISC & accessories CATALOG!*************
For the largest selection & lowest prices, get our NEW catalog...
If you'd like a printed copy, send your mailing information to us.
CATALOG FREQ: cdlist.zip (over 1,100 cd-rom disc titles available)44k
DESCRIPT FREQ: descript.zip   (about 800 cd-rom disc descriptions)70k
        Internet: [e-mail]
    FidoNet: 1:157/479 - RBBSNet 8:965/13 - KesherNet 18:711/176
Joe Rinehart / config.sys, Inc.    Voice: [phone]  -  24 hours
P.O. Box 27                        Data/Fax: [phone]
Kent, Ohio 44240-0001              >>>INTERNATIONAL ORDERS WELCOME<<<

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From: JOE RINEHART                           Number: 11915
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/14/94  3:36a
Subj: Cd-rom Drives+                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

********* Refurbished  Hitachi Model 3600 CD-ROM DRIVES $130 *********
********* Refurbished  Hitachi Model 3500 CD-ROM DRIVES $120 *********
********* Refurbished SCSI NEC Model 36   CD-ROM DRIVES $130 *********
These units are also available needing refurbished at 50% off!
Catalog of 1,200+ CD-Titles and hardware products available-CDLIST.ZIP
           Internet: [e-mail]
      FidoNet 1:157/479 - RBBSNet 8:965/13 - KesherNet 18:711/176
Joe Rinehart / config.sys, Inc.     Voice: [phone]  -  24 hours
P.O. Box 27                         Data/Fax: [phone]
Kent, Ohio 44240-0001               >>>INTERNATIONAL ORDERS WELCOME<<<

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From: EDDIE APPELL                           Number: 11916
  To: JOHN ULLMER                              Date: 01/13/94  9:07a
Subj: Re: Advice, please...                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

JU> -=> Quoting Al Bratlie to Chris Robinson <=-

JU> AB> People keep throwing those Wave Table terms in my face, and I
JU> AB> don't really know what it all means. For me, the #1 priority is
JU> AB> seamless operation. If I buy something that is SB compatable, I
JU> AB> don't want to have to install drivers, emulators, open the case
JU> AB> to move jumpers, and call tech support to get it to work. I'm
JU> AB> not a musician! I'm not working on special effects for the next
JU> AB> Star Wars movie either. I just want high quality sound, for a
JU> AB> good price. FM sounds fine to me! I have not heard the others,
JU> AB> but I don't think I have anywhere to go to hear the the
JU>difference anyway.
JU>        May I add, sir, that you have my total and absolute
JU>       concurrence.
JU>        Most of the "techies" I've seen in this SIG have the sad
JU>        tendency to believe unquestioninly everything they read about
JU>        hypothetical future products.  So, don't ever tell anyone in
JU>        this conference what you finally decided to buy, because
JU>        someone, if not several, will immediately tell you how wrong
JU>        you were, how you wasted your money, and how out-of-touch you
JU>       are with current technology.
JU>        Bravo to you sir.

I agree there are quite a few "pie-in-the-sky" types around here, but
the technology that Al is talking about is here now.  I just bought a
new sound card after living with an original SoundBlaster card for a few
years.  The card I went with has wavetable synthesis.  What wavetable
synthesis is is it has a ROM chip on the card itself which has actual
sampled instruments on it.  So when you play a Midi file in Windows, or
when you have the option of Midi in some games now, and many games in
the future, you won't hear sythesized approximations of what the
instruments sound like that are playing the music, you'll hear the
actual instruments! It really is an incredible difference!  And it has
nothing to with sound quality (i.e. - harmonic distortion, Mhz, etc.)
it's just a better source for the sound.  The card also has a SCSI-II
connector on it, which is the current standard for SCSI, so when I get a
CD-ROM drive it will be compatible with a wide range of drives.  It also
came with some great software for DOS and Windows.  Oh yeah... and it
can also emulate the SoundBlaster's FM synthesis, for when your feeling
a little nostalgic... :)

Anyways, the card cost me $169 and it was worth every penny. So far it's
compatible with everything and when I've had to call tech support for a
couple things, they were very quick and helpful.

The card I got is the Computer Peripheral's "Viva Maestro 16" and I
highly recommend it to anyone.

Hope I helped someone!

Ed


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From: EDDIE APPELL                           Number: 11917
  To: JOHN ULLMER                              Date: 01/13/94  9:08a
Subj: Re: Advice, please...                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

JU> -=> Quoting Al Bratlie to Chris Robinson <=-

JU> AB> People keep throwing those Wave Table terms in my face, and I
JU> AB> don't really know what it all means. For me, the #1 priority is
JU> AB> seamless operation. If I buy something that is SB compatable, I
JU> AB> don't want to have to install drivers, emulators, open the case
JU> AB> to move jumpers, and call tech support to get it to work. I'm
JU> AB> not a musician! I'm not working on special effects for the next
JU> AB> Star Wars movie either. I just want high quality sound, for a
JU> AB> good price. FM sounds fine to me! I have not heard the others,
JU> AB> but I don't think I have anywhere to go to hear the the
JU>difference anyway.
JU>        May I add, sir, that you have my total and absolute
JU>       concurrence.
JU>        Most of the "techies" I've seen in this SIG have the sad
JU>        tendency to believe unquestioninly everything they read about
JU>        hypothetical future products.  So, don't ever tell anyone in
JU>        this conference what you finally decided to buy, because
JU>        someone, if not several, will immediately tell you how wrong
JU>        you were, how you wasted your money, and how out-of-touch you
JU>       are with current technology.
JU>        Bravo to you sir.

I agree there are quite a few "pie-in-the-sky" types around here, but
the technology that Al is talking about is here now.  I just bought a
new sound card after living with an original SoundBlaster card for a few
years.  The card I went with has wavetable synthesis.  What wavetable
synthesis is is it has a ROM chip on the card itself which has actual
sampled instruments on it.  So when you play a Midi file in Windows, or
when you have the option of Midi in some games now, and many games in
the future, you won't hear sythesized approximations of what the
instruments sound like that are playing the music, you'll hear the
actual instruments! It really is an incredible difference!  And it has
nothing to with sound quality (i.e. - harmonic distortion, Mhz, etc.)
it's just a better source for the sound.  The card also has a SCSI-II
connector on it, which is the current standard for SCSI, so when I get a
CD-ROM drive it will be compatible with a wide range of drives.  It also
came with some great software for DOS and Windows.  Oh yeah... and it
can also emulate the SoundBlaster's FM synthesis, for when your feeling
a little nostalgic... :)

Anyways, the card cost me $169 and it was worth every penny. So far it's
compatible with everything and when I've had to call tech support for a
couple things, they were very quick and helpful.

The card I got is the Computer Peripheral's "Viva Maestro 16" and I
highly recommend it to anyone.

Hope I helped someone!

Ed


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From: EDDIE APPELL                           Number: 11918
  To: AL BRATLIE                               Date: 01/13/94  9:08a
Subj: Re: Advice, please...                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

JU> -=> Quoting Al Bratlie to Chris Robinson <=-

JU> AB> People keep throwing those Wave Table terms in my face, and I
JU> AB> don't really know what it all means. For me, the #1 priority is
JU> AB> seamless operation. If I buy something that is SB compatable, I
JU> AB> don't want to have to install drivers, emulators, open the case
JU> AB> to move jumpers, and call tech support to get it to work. I'm
JU> AB> not a musician! I'm not working on special effects for the next
JU> AB> Star Wars movie either. I just want high quality sound, for a
JU> AB> good price. FM sounds fine to me! I have not heard the others,
JU> AB> but I don't think I have anywhere to go to hear the the
JU>difference anyway.
JU>        May I add, sir, that you have my total and absolute
JU>       concurrence.
JU>        Most of the "techies" I've seen in this SIG have the sad
JU>        tendency to believe unquestioninly everything they read about
JU>        hypothetical future products.  So, don't ever tell anyone in
JU>        this conference what you finally decided to buy, because
JU>        someone, if not several, will immediately tell you how wrong
JU>        you were, how you wasted your money, and how out-of-touch you
JU>       are with current technology.
JU>        Bravo to you sir.

I agree there are quite a few "pie-in-the-sky" types around here, but
the technology that Al is talking about is here now.  I just bought a
new sound card after living with an original SoundBlaster card for a few
years.  The card I went with has wavetable synthesis.  What wavetable
synthesis is is it has a ROM chip on the card itself which has actual
sampled instruments on it.  So when you play a Midi file in Windows, or
when you have the option of Midi in some games now, and many games in
the future, you won't hear sythesized approximations of what the
instruments sound like that are playing the music, you'll hear the
actual instruments! It really is an incredible difference!  And it has
nothing to with sound quality (i.e. - harmonic distortion, Mhz, etc.)
it's just a better source for the sound.  The card also has a SCSI-II
connector on it, which is the current standard for SCSI, so when I get a
CD-ROM drive it will be compatible with a wide range of drives.  It also
came with some great software for DOS and Windows.  Oh yeah... and it
can also emulate the SoundBlaster's FM synthesis, for when your feeling
a little nostalgic... :)

Anyways, the card cost me $169 and it was worth every penny. So far it's
compatible with everything and when I've had to call tech support for a
couple things, they were very quick and helpful.

The card I got is the Computer Peripheral's "Viva Maestro 16" and I
highly recommend it to anyone.

Hope I helped someone!

Ed


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From: EDDIE APPELL                           Number: 11919
  To: JASON CHANCELLOR                         Date: 01/13/94  9:16a
Subj: CD Recorders                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

KM>On Jan 08 01:00, Jason Chancellor of 1:124/8005 wrote:

KM> JC> I am in the market to purchase a CD Recorder and was wondering
KM> JC> if  someone could point me in the right direction.  What I am
KM>looking for
KM> JC> noticed 2 main brands.  Philips and Ricoh.  Ricoh is much
KM> JC> cheaper and  I was wondering what the difference is.  I am also
KM>very open to
KM>Supposedly the software included with the Philips unit is fantastic.

KM>At less than $4000, that sort of leaves the Philips out doesn't it?
KM>I can get you the Philips machine, but it is over $5000, closer to
KM>$5500 or if you buy one elseware talk to me about getting a service
KM>contract.


Jason,

The difference between the two is that the Phillips is a double-speed
drive and the Ricoh is a single-speed drive.  So if it takes about an
hour and a half to record your CD on the Phillips, then it will take
three hours on the Ricoh.  I believe (although I may be wrong) that the
Ricoh can only produce CD's that are optimized for single-speed drives.
They will run on other speeds, but they won't be optimized for those
speeds.  I would assume the Phillips is the same for double-speed
drives.  That would make a big difference to me, considering that we're
moving into triple and quadruple speed drives this year and who knows
what is next!

Hope that helps!

Ed


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From: EDDIE APPELL                           Number: 11920
  To: KEVIN MARTIN                             Date: 01/13/94  9:17a
Subj: CD Recorders                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

KM>On Jan 08 01:00, Jason Chancellor of 1:124/8005 wrote:

KM> JC> I am in the market to purchase a CD Recorder and was wondering
KM> JC> if  someone could point me in the right direction.  What I am
KM>looking for
KM> JC> noticed 2 main brands.  Philips and Ricoh.  Ricoh is much
KM> JC> cheaper and  I was wondering what the difference is.  I am also
KM>very open to
KM>Supposedly the software included with the Philips unit is fantastic.

KM>At less than $4000, that sort of leaves the Philips out doesn't it?
KM>I can get you the Philips machine, but it is over $5000, closer to
KM>$5500 or if you buy one elseware talk to me about getting a service
KM>contract.


Kevin,

The difference between the two is that the Phillips is a double-speed
drive and the Ricoh is a single-speed drive.  So if it takes about an
hour and a half to record your CD on the Phillips, then it will take
three hours on the Ricoh.  I believe (although I may be wrong) that the
Ricoh can only produce CD's that are optimized for single-speed drives.
They will run on other speeds, but they won't be optimized for those
speeds.  I would assume the Phillips is the same for double-speed
drives.  That would make a big difference to me, considering that we're
moving into triple and quadruple speed drives this year and who knows
what is next!

Hope that helps!

Ed


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From: EDDIE APPELL                           Number: 11921
  To: SAM BECKWITH                             Date: 01/13/94  9:35a
Subj: Cd-roms For Sale                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

SB>DFW Discount Electronics    CD-ROM Price List  Orders: 800-829-0331
SB> Ship to USA ONLY. 01/07/94 BBS: 214-259-4188  Local : 214-254-0331
SB>Grolier Multimedia Encyclopedia 6.0  1994 (MPC/Windows)....  $37.00
SB>Seventh Guest (OEM)........................................  $35.00

Hi Sam,

I am interested in the Encyclopedia... can you ship COD (of course I'd
pay the extra $4 or $5). Also, what is the difference between the Virgin
release and the OEM release of Seventh Guest (anything missing, etc.)

Thanks for your reply...

Ed


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From: EDDIE APPELL                           Number: 11922
  To: WILLIAM WRIGHT                           Date: 01/13/94  9:39a
Subj: CDROM IN WINDOWS PRO                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

FR>WW>RB>Exactly my point. They make windows out to be some kind of
FR>WW>RB>operating system. Don't even know what DOS is.

FR>WW>Yeah. And now the microsoft idiots want to make Windows 4.0 that
FR>WW>will also be  DOS 7, and you MUST have windows to run. There WILL
FR>WW>be no command line anymore. That will definitly screw us sysops up
FR>WW>since probally half of the stuff thats shareware won't work in
FR>Windows!
FR>Not quite, there will be a unified command line shell, from where you
FR>will be able to launch both windows and old dos programs..

What Fabio says is true... however, there are still options available...
Anyone can choose to stay with any older version of DOS (6.2, 6.0, 5.0,
etc.) and there's always IBM's PC-DOS or Novell's DR-DOS which are both
very good operating systems, IMHO, and both may continue to develop new
versions after MS has abandoned traditional DOS... But if you talk to
OS/2 users, who are really working with the same type of thing that
DOS7/Win4 will be, they seem to be very happy running DOS programs in
that manner... So there you go!

Ed


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From: EDDIE APPELL                           Number: 11923
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 01/13/94  9:41a
Subj: CDROM Specials                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

DC>               PCJ Computing - "After Holidays SPECIALS"
DC>Prices effective 1/10 to 1/22/94 - No Exceptions. While Stock Lasts.
DC>              ORDERS-615-339-0235 (9-6) FAX-615-479-1047
DC>
DC>7th Guest (OEM Disc + manual)..33.95
DC>Return to Zork (OEM)....29.95
DC>Just Grandma & Me (OEM)........25.95

Hi Doug,

Can you tell me what the difference is between the regular releases of
these CD's and the OEM versions?  Anything missing that I would need or
want?

Thanks,

Ed


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From: ROBERT HARRIS                          Number: 11924
  To: JIM HARBIN                               Date: 01/14/94  5:41p
Subj: Re: StarWars Rebel Assaul               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

JH>>>If I can't trade it for 7th guest or another similar program then I will g
JH>>>back to you....
JH>>>---
JH>>>* SPITFIRE v3.4

  What about 7th guest?  I have it and want to trade it for something...
  Already finished it.

 * SLMR 2.1a * We all live in a yellow subroutine.


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From: BOB BREED                              Number: 11925
  To: GORDON FLETCHER                          Date: 01/14/94  9:39a
Subj: KODAK PHOTOCD                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 >picture in yet another small box -- not what I had in mind. (If
 >I'm missing something with this program, please let me know.)

 GF> Bob, I get full screen images by copying to "After Dark" screen saver
 GF> in the slide show mode. With this, you can have as many slide shows as
 GF> your hard disk will stand. You can adjust the interval between and the
 GF> time shown. Also sequence, random and shuffle. Just save the images as
 GF> Windows BMP. The images occupy the entire screen.

    Yeah, that's another approach. But I don't want to run the
pictures off my HD -- I want to display them off the CD! Why
doesn't Kodak make a viewer as simple as vpic -- or why the heck
doesn't Bob Montgomery add this capability to his VPIC program?
(My guess is that Kodak has the format copyrighted. Bob probably
doesn't want the hassle.)
    While the cost of scanning images on the CD is more than
reasonable, it still leaves something to be desired when it comes
to showing the darn pictures. (Simple, quick and un-cluttered.
Also must have 'slideshow' capability. Is that too much to ask??)


... I suport publick skools.
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From: BOB BREED                              Number: 11926
  To: CHRISTOPH STEINECKE                      Date: 01/14/94  9:39a
Subj: CINEMANIA 94 REPORT !                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 CD>CS>In my opionion the Cinamania , since it is full, should have contained
 CD>CS>Video Clips and more information about the
 CD>CS>_not so well-known_ Actors !
 CD>CS>
 CD>CS>Any opinions ?
 CD>
 CD>Yeah. I think it's good. I don't think those actors would be readily found
 CD>in *any* currently available movie\movie industry review books.
 CS> They are all in the Movie Database of the Internet though,
 CS> and the CD has the space, it would have been no problem
 CS> to include the actors in !

    I think the purpose of Cinamania was simple: Place Leonard
Maltin's movies reviews on a CD. This allows for quick searches
etc. The purpose of the BOOK was to allow an individual to make
one decision: Should I pay $3.00 to rent this movie from my local
VCR rental store?
    The guide does that, and adds a little more: You now get a
few clips from some movies -- a little bit more background etc;
BUT neither the disk, nor the book,  was designed to be a
COMPLETE history of film. (Heck, even some of the better current
movies get short changed -- I believe someone was mentioning
Jennifer Grey isn't listed, and she appeared in two bigger hits:
Dirty Dancing and Ferris Bueler's Day Off.)
    What I'm looking for is a data-base of film that has depth --
it at least should cover Academy Award winning films in depth,
and to be really classified as the difinitive DB, should also
include all the old B westerns, the class Z serials etc.
    Sadly, I doubt if it will ever be issued. I THINK some
organization, such as the American Film Institiute, may have the
source data, but the cost of compiling it and getting it on CD
will probably prevent the disk from being made. (How many people
would buy it??)
    I think the PROMISE of CD was that large DB's such as this
would come, but the industry seems to have changed into small
db's, merged with lots of flash -- sound clips, motion etc. The
trend towards issuing flat db's, with lots of depth, has gone by
the wayside.


... I left my tart in Aunt Fran's Crisco.
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From: BOB BREED                              Number: 11927
  To: CHRISTOPH STEINECKE                      Date: 01/14/94  9:39a
Subj: GREAT PHOTO VIEWER !                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 CS> Since everybody is talking about Photo CD and Viewing Programs
 CS> I want to recomend a great viewer Program.

 CS> It is called _Personal Photo Viewer_ and runs under Windows.

 CS> It is much better than Kodak oder Tempra Photo Access, because
 CS> it is really fast in loading the images,

 CS> you can run a SlideShow you can choose the Slideshow like
 CS> 1.2.3.4.5.6.....100
 CS> or
 CS> 100.99.98.97......0
 CS> or
 CS> 5.78.2.55.48.75

 CS> The Picure is in Full Screen (just like you would watch a GIF
 CS> und VPIC), but of course due to the resolutions you miss a small
 CS> part of the Window , if you're running under 640*480, but I guess
 CS> most people do , since the normal VGA Cards only do True Colour
 CS> in that mode, but anyway Windows is 640*480 and the picture
 CS> is 768*512, so you can figure out what is missing, but it doesn't
 CS> bother at all.

 CS> I paid for the CD (which includes 24 Photos) 30,- DM, which is about
 CS> 17,-$

 CS> If anyone is intereset heres the adress of the company, which made the
 CS> programm :

 CS> Software Dynamics Gmbh
 CS> Am Fallturm 5
 CS> 28359 Bremen, Germany
 CS> Telefon : [phone]
 CS> FAX     : [phone]
 CS> Hot-Line: 049-0421-219884

 CS> The Programm is about 1MB long, an runs fine with 4MB RAM !

    Jeeze, this sounds like what I've been looking for -- are you
going to have a US agent distribute it???


... I don't eat snails. I prefer fast food.
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From: BOB BREED                              Number: 11928
  To: ANDREW LARMOUR                           Date: 01/14/94  9:39a
Subj: KODAK PHOTO-CD                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

    <Loads of good stuff clipped and stored>
 AL> combined together and  compressed to .PCD files in the range 3.2Mb to
 AL> 6.5Mb. The resolutions are:

 AL> 128x192      Base/16       72Kb      Thumbnail
 AL> 256x384      Base/4        258Kb     For putting multi images on the
 AL> screen
 AL> 512x768      Base          1.1Mb     TV quality
 AL> 1024x1536    4Base         4.5Mb     HDTV quality
 AL> 2048x3072    16Base        18Mb      for high quality printing needs

 AL> There is one further resolution available only on the Pro Photo-CD

 AL> 4096x6144    64Base        72Mb     for ultra high quality printing
 AL> needs

 AL> Naturally, all of these are true colour images (24 bit) and their size
 AL> will be  reduced to 33% of the original size if they are converted down
 AL> to 8bit (256  colours).  In terms of quality, I have seen A4 colour
 AL> seperations from the  16Base image, and let me tell you, they are as
 AL> good as you will ever see in  the best quality magazines you can buy.

    At last, someone who knows quite a bit about Kodak's CD.
Somehow I never thought of the file containing 5 distinct images.
I thought of it as something like a true-type font -- scaleable.
    I guess this conversion of one scan into 5 formats is done by
the software at the scanning lab? (Or do they scan 5 times??)
Anyway, why didn't they add just one more format: 640x480x256?
Would have allowed the PC world to read it with any viewer.
(Heck, maybe that's the reason.)

    Ironically, bundled in this same mail packet, I see a post
from someone in Germany who is introducing a program called
"Personal Photo Viewer."  It seems to be just what the doctor
ordered -- now all we need is a US distributor.

 AL> image trying to store and  display images in the giga-byte BB>range!)

 AL> A 35mm negative stores aproximately 33Mb of data, a 35mm slide holds a
 AL> little  more.  As you can see, at the highest resolution in the
 AL> image-pak you are  about half way to storing all the information of a
 AL> 35mm neg.  If you opt for  the pro photo-cd, then the 64Base resolution
 AL> stores significantly more  information than a 35mm neg.  Why all this
 AL> wasted capacity I hear you ask... Well,  Pro Photo-CD is capable of
 AL> scanning negs (or trannies) up to 5x4" in  size.  5x4" negs can hold
 AL> approximately 500Mb of data.
    <More snips>

 AL> reflective surface on the disk failing.  (I don't know BB>all of the
 AL> details, but it sure sounds like the search must  BB>continue.)


 AL> All that I have heard about longevity if Photo-CD's suggests that -
 AL> given good  storage conditions - they should last at least 100 years.
 AL> At any point in  that time, you can make a duplicate of that disk and
 AL> thus extend it's life by another 100 years.  Good storage for CD's is
 AL> much the same as it is for  Photos.
 AL> ie.  cool, dark, low humidity and without extremes of temperature.

 AL> I hope that I have been of some asistance, feel free to comtact me if
 AL> you ahve  any further questions....

    You have provided a ton of insight into this. However, the
part about 100 years could be amusing. Can't you just see your
great-grand kid walking into some computer store in 2067 --
saying look, I found this bright shinny thing packed in my grand-
dad's attic -- What is it?  He had a note saying it was pictures
of the family, but how do you use it.
    The salesman says: Gee, my daddy told me bout' those things
when I was a young pup -- but this is first one I've ever SEEN.
They went out around 2000 - when the dilitium/positronic/dual
megaquartz chip came out -- one chip now stores 87 kazillion
images and is powered by rubbing two frog legs together. Better
send that thing to the Smithsonian.

    Thanks again.



... The devil finds work for idle glands.
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From: ERIC DAVIS                             Number: 11929
  To: PAUL MUNZENBERGER                        Date: 01/14/94  3:44p
Subj: Worm drive owner wanted!                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I have a WORM drive what do you want to know about them????

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From: ALEX MOTTRAM                           Number: 11930
  To: TERRY BLOUNT                             Date: 01/14/94  8:59a
Subj: COC III?                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

+-
|  Yes.  I want to support as many  "flavors"  of  bbs  software  as
|  possible.  You can use the sample  "Cream.lst"  for  the  control
|  file.  I'll try to make _SURE_ that "Area" is  not  left  out  at
|  the beginning of the Business listings.
+-[TB=>AM]

Thanks for the info.  I'll tidy it up a bit and recompile then send it
to you.  I'll include the source code if you want.  There's a few more
options I'd like to add if it's gonna go on the disk <grin>..

And if you need any sort of copyright stuff or anything to protect YOU,
I won't be offended.  :)

Thanks,


Alex Mottram

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From: MIKE MORE                              Number: 11931
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 01/14/94  4:20p
Subj: !free Cd catalog!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Joe!

In a msg of <Sunday January 09 1994>, Joe Rinehart writes to All:

 JR> If you'd like a printed copy, send your mailing information to us.

Yes please: 8055 Jeanne d'Arc Blvd, Orleans, Ontario K1E 1W7. Thanks.

Mike

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From: CURTIS BURISCH                         Number: 11932
  To: DAVID WATT                               Date: 01/04/94  6:22p
Subj: Re: Return To Zork Memory               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi David!

 On Friday December 24 1993, David Watt spake thus:

 DW> I have recently installed a CDROM and am trying to play Return to Zork
 DW> on it. My problem is that the memory requirements are such that I can
 DW> not load the mouse driver to play it, I can only play it with the

As always with insufficient memory problems, I recommend QEMM386! How's 630k
free sound?!
        --==## Curtis ##==--

    ([e-mail])

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From: HASSNANE SAJAN                         Number: 11933
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 01/14/94  5:45a
Subj: !free Cd catalog!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Joe. Please send me a CD catalog.

To:
Hassnane Sajan
43 Meadowcliffe Ave.
Richmond Hill, Ontario
L4B 3E2
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From: HASSNANE SAJAN                         Number: 11934
  To: JOSE VISBAL                              Date: 01/14/94  5:49a
Subj: Rebel Assault                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

If your Rebel Assault is still available at $35 I'll take it.
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From: GARY NEWMAN                            Number: 11935
  To: DAN TURNER                               Date: 01/13/94  9:42p
Subj: StarVector Software?                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a msg on <Jan 09 12:00>, Dan Turner of 1:226/110 writes:

 DT> Gary


 DT> Also I would recommend you getting a spellchecker for your
 DT> message editor as your post was a little hard to read.

fuck off.

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From: MIKE GERVASI                           Number: 11936
  To: SCOTT LOUDON                             Date: 01/14/94  1:28a
Subj: Re: What to buy..                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Then it happened......
SLbut in any case which CD-ROMs do you have for sale? I may be interested

  I have King's Quest VI, Sherlock Holmes Cons. Det. Vol I, National
Parks. Make an offer either trade or cash is welcome.


Mike
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From: MIKE GERVASI                           Number: 11937
  To: CHRIS CHAN                               Date: 01/14/94  1:30a
Subj: Re: WANTED BEATLES CD                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Then it happened...... -=>
CCDoes the movie play in full screen or is it in a small box and does
CCit allow you to play it from any part of the movie like a laser disc.
CCAlso what are the hardware requirements (eg. Doublespin) my cousin
CCwants to buy it so I'll tell him what to expect.

  Either large or small, although the larger screen can't keep up.
The cover says MPC compatible CD-drive is good enough. It works great on
my 2X.
                         Mike

Mike
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From: GENE PHILLIPS                          Number: 11938
  To: CHRIS CHASE                              Date: 01/14/94  9:19a
Subj: LOOKING FOR AN OLD CD-ROM               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

CC>Hello I'm looking for an old (Cheaper Price range) CD Rom for my board
CC>if anyone has any ideas or something for sale leave me some mail!

I have a new drive for $150. Uses proprietary card (included). Will work
fine for your needs. Page me 791-3298 or leave message here.
 Gene

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From: GENE SU                                Number: 11939
  To: RONALD KEENEY                            Date: 01/13/94 11:33p
Subj: CD Rom Pressing                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

When you get start production let me know because I would like to purchase a
copy.

Gene Su

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From: JERRY THOMSON                          Number: 11940
  To: DON GESER                                Date: 01/13/94  2:26a
Subj: Available CD's                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

*** Quoting Don Geser to All dated 01-10-94 ***
>        Does anyone out thier know of a Christian files only CD? If so,
> please respond!
>
>        Thanks
>

The California Collection has Christian Files on CDROM.  The California
Collection use to go by the name of Alpha and Omega.  You can get it from Joe
Rinehart who is on this echo.  It is listed in Joes catalog for $11.80.  About
half of the files are Christian and the other half are regular bbs type files
like spreadsheets, utilities, etc.  It is BBS ready if you are a sysop of a
BBS.  If not, you can still use it and he has others that are not for just
bbs's..

Jerry

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From: SY BERRY                               Number: 11941
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 01/14/94  2:18a
Subj: CD-Rom Catalog Available                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

*** Quoting Jim Lambert to All dated 01-09-94 ***
>                                Computer Works
>     Online Orders               CD-Rom Sales            File Lists
>                             [phone] Voice
>     Visa                     [phone] BBS         Mastercard
>
> For everybody interested in great prices on the latest CD-Roms, we have
>
> a catalog available for download from Computer Works that lists each
> title, price and description.  You can download on the first call.
> We will mail a list of titles and prices to anyone requesting a copy
> and
> posting their address or calling us voice.
>
> *!* FreeMail 1.09
>  * Origin: COMP-U-Sirv * Dothan, AL * 205-677-0078 * (1:18/10)
since your so far away I don't think i want to d/l a large file long distance
and if I sent you my d
address would it cost anything for the list? and prices?
relply soon.
ht

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From: SY BERRY                               Number: 11942
  To: MICHAEL LARKIN                           Date: 01/14/94  2:27a
Subj: CD-ROM DRIVE AND WINDOWS                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Michael, try reading the docs in windows I just printed a 30 or so page
manual on windows which has the info you need...
sorry II
sorry I can't remember the doc name or read me file?
ht

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From: MAX BURKE                              Number: 11943
  To: JASON WAGNER                             Date: 12/29/93  5:27p
Subj: Lots 'O Questions!                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Jason Wagner bellowed the following speech to All:

JW>   I just ordered a Mitsumi drive today, and now am reading
JW> that its not a SCSI or daisy-chainable drive.  Is this
JW> right?  Then is the controller a simple AT BUS 8 bit card,
JW> without the possibility of expanding to more SCSI devices
JW> off of it?

True... No SCSI

JW>   Also, can the GUS support this drive?  I want to buy the
JW> Gravis, but I  want it to be able to control the drive (I
JW> have ONE expansion slot left! <G>) and does it have a
JW> high-speed (as in DX2-66) game port?

As long as the card is MPC compatible.

JW>   Finally, my last question for all you techies (And I
JW> appreciate this!)... I'm probably gonna come off looking
JW> like a fool for asking this, but since I'm new to CD-ROM
JW> I'll ask it anyways!  I am under the impression that CD-ROM
JW> main advantage is the fact that EVERYTHING is on the CD...
JW> no more pinched hard drive space.  Is this true?  I have
JW> worked with an excyclopedia CD-ROM as school and installed
JW> it... it told me that it needed appx 20 MB of space on the
JW> HD to run!!!  Does every CD need to put something on the HD
JW> (I know games might need to put save games and such
JW> on...)??!

Shareware CD's don't need to put things on the HD. The reason those files are
put onto the HD is mainly the programs needed to run the Encyclopedia or
whatever.

-Max

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From: MAX BURKE                              Number: 11944
  To: KENNY SCOTT                              Date: 12/29/93  5:29p
Subj: CD-ROM                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Kenny Scott bellowed the following speech to All:

KS>     I am looking for a CD-ROM drive with these
KS> specifications: Double Speed or higher
KS> 250 or less seek time
KS> 300-350 or more KB transfer
KS> *Gravis Ultrasound Compatible
KS> Windows compatibility
KS> * = optional

The Texel internal is about $570 Canadian (last time I checked).. The only
thing that you might not like it that it is 280ms. I have a 380ms 150kb/s
running on my BBS here and I really like it.

-Max

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From: MAX BURKE                              Number: 11945
  To: TONY WILLIAMS                            Date: 12/29/93  5:31p
Subj: Freeing up space                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Tony Williams bellowed the following speech to All:

TW> Does anyone know of anyway that I can access more upper
TW> memory to load some other files so that I have more room in
TW> conventional? My cd-rom that I just installed is running its
TW> driver in upper memory putting other drivers and other files
TW> running in conventional. This causes me to have limited
TW> capacity for running programs requiring 512k or more of
TW> convetional memory. Any ideas? Thanx

Optimize that comes with DesqView. My personal favorite is called PC-MOS/386.
PC-MOS is an operating system that has built in multitasking. It is sort of
like a non-graphical OS/2. The only thing is that the CD-ROM drivers for it are
$200 US. =(.

-Max

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From: G CRONE                                Number: 11946
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/14/94  7:49p
Subj: No Audio play                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

HELP !

Can anyone figure out why my CD-ROM will not play audio CD's.
The disc spins and the programs say music is being played, but no
sound.

Used with game or encyclopedia type of media (data) everything works
fine. Music, videos, etc all play nicely.

There are no IRQ, DMA, or Base address conflicts.
CD-ROM is Mitsumi FX001-D, sound board is SB16 MultiCD w/ASP

Here is relevant portions of autoexec and config:

SET SOUND=C:\SB16
SET BLASTER=A220 I5 D1 H1 P330 T6
LH C:\SB16\SB16SET /M:220 /VOC:220 /CD:220 /MIDI:220 /LINE:220 /TREBLE:0
LH C:\SB16\SBCONFIG.EXE /S
LH C:\DOS\MSCDEX.EXE /D:MSCD001 /M:20 /E
LH C:\DOS\SMARTDRV.EXE 512 512

LASTDRIVE=Z
DEVICE=C:\DOS\HIMEM.SYS
DEVICE=C:\DOS\EMM386.EXE RAM
DEVICEHIGH=C:\DOS\SETVER.EXE
FILES=30
BUFFERS=30,0
DOS=UMB
FCBS=4,0
DEVICEHIGH /L:1,33440 =C:\DOS\RAMBIOS.SYS
DEVICEHIGH=C:\SB16\DRV\CSP.SYS /P:220
DOS=HIGH
STACKS=9,256
SHELL=C:\COMMAND.COM C:\  /p
DEVICEHIGH=c:\sb16\drv\MTMCDAE.SYS /D:MSCD001 /P:340 /A:0 /M:10 /T:7 /I:11 /x

This problem persists in DOS and Windows (and yes the MCI audio driver
is installed for windows.)

Relevant portion of WIN.INI

[mci extensions]
wav=waveaudio
mid=sequencer
rmi=sequencer
flc=animation1
fli=animation1
avi=AVIVideo

[embedding]
MMJBox=MIDI,MIDI,C:\SB16\WINAPPL\MMJBOX.EXE,picture
Soundo'LE=Soundo'LE,Soundo'LE,C:\SB16\WINAPPL\SOUNDOLE.EXE,picture
MPlayer=Media Clip,Media Clip,mplayer.exe,picture

Relevant portion of SYS.INI
[mci]
WaveAudio=mciwave.drv 6
Sequencer=mciseq.drv
Animation1=mciaap.drv
AVIVideo=mciavi.drv
CDAudio=mcicda.drv

[drivers]
MidiMapper=midimap.drv
MIDI=sb16fm.drv
Aux=sb16aux.drv
Wave=sb16snd.drv
MIDI1=sb16snd.drv
VIDC.MSVC=msvidc.drv
VIDC.RT21=indeo.drv
Timer=timer.drv

[sndblst.drv]
Port=220
MidiPort=330
Int=5
DmaChannel=1
HDmaChannel=1

Any assistance is appreciated

                Mike Crone
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From: JOHN MAR                               Number: 11947
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/14/94 11:12p
Subj: looking for a cd rom driver             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

To anyone out there I am looking for a triple speed cd rom driver.  If anyone
out there have any suggestions to a good quality cd rom driver that I can use
with my 8 bit sb card I would apriceate any help you can give me.  I plan to
run multi-media programs for the driver./s


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From: PAT RILEY                              Number: 11948
  To: JERRY CUPPLES                            Date: 01/14/94  7:09a
Subj: caddy shortage in Dallas                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

JC>I have a new Apple CD300 which uses the Sony caddies. All the dealers in big
  >seem to be out of the caddies, and the price is pretty near the cost of the
  >darn CD's. Any suggestions on where to get a box of the things reasonably?

JC>Thanks, Jerry

I have 10 of them for sale for $7.75 each plus shipping

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From: GREG LUTHER                            Number: 11949
  To: BRYAN FULLER                             Date: 01/12/94 10:20p
Subj: Sound Blaster Pro w/CD                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

BF>Yeah, I had the same problem. If you have the drive connected to the
BF>interface card it came with, great. There should be a jack on the back
BF>of the interface card that you can plug into an amp or stereo or
BF>whatever, or on the front of the drive there should also be a headphone
BF>jack.

I am going to purchase a cdrom drive. If I am reading this right, if I
hook it up from the interface card directly to my stereo, will I get the
same quality sound as if I purchased a good sound card? I have a basic
sound blaster now, and thought I would have to upgrade, but if this
works I would rather go that route.
     Also could anyone suggest a good cdrom drive. I want at least a
     double spin. Thanks.

 * SLMR 2.1a * If it's tourist season, why can't I shoot one?


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From: GREG LUTHER                            Number: 11950
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 01/12/94 10:25p
Subj: CD-Rom Catalog Available                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

JL>We will mail a list of titles and prices to anyone requesting a copy and
JL>posting their address or calling us voice.

I would like one.

Greg Luther
153 New Elba
Destin, Fl. 32541

                 THANKS


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From: ASHWIN BIHARI                          Number: 11951
  To: JOE SITKO                                Date: 01/11/94  9:44a
Subj: Re: 7Th Guest & SVGA question           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 JS> Ashwin,

 JS> All I want to do is use my VGA monitor as a VGA monitor, but feed it
 JS> video through a SVGA card.  I'm told that is quite possible to do.

 JS> I'm getting a Trident SVGA card with one meg.  (I gor a good
 JS> deal on it!) Hopefully, that'll work OKAY.

 JS> Thanks for the reply................
 JS> Written by Joe Sitko on Tuesday, December 28 at 15:16:41
 JS> ... A penny for your thoughts; $20 to act them out.
 JS> ■TLXv3.30■
Ok Joe, then it will most probably work, cuz I also use a TRIDENT 1 meg
SVGA card with a SVGA monitor and get quite good resoulution, well have
fun playing the game, and TTYL.
        Ashwin


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From: NATHAN MCCARTHY                        Number: 11952
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/14/94  9:43p
Subj: cd-rom by dreative                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

        Ok here is my problem.  I have a creative cd-rom double-spin with 6
megs of ram and I just got the game Cyber race but when I type the exe it says
it can't run from protected mode.   If anyone has any ideas please please
respond/.



                                                Spidey

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From: NATHAN MCCARTHY                        Number: 11953
  To: DERICK MATHER                            Date: 01/14/94  9:52p
Subj: Total Shareware                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On <09 Jan, 11:39>, Derick Mather wrote to All :

DM> I purchased the MW CD disk TOTAL Shareware.  That is the first problem.
DM> I cannot figure out how to get the programs from the disk to my machine.
DM>  I'm an old MAC person and not to good at the world of IBM.  I am
DM> running a 486 with cd and sound card.  If any body could help me I would
DM> really be greatful.  I feel a voice call would be best tht way the
DM> person could talk me through the proceedure. Please call  667-8251
DM> thank you      Derick Mather

        Type this:

                Copy <Name of file you want> <Drive and directory you want it
sent to> and then push <enter>


                                                        Spidey

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From: BOB BALDOCK                            Number: 11954
  To: AMANDA HARRIS                            Date: 01/14/94  5:29p
Subj: Question                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

      Excuse me for interjecting..........

 > since I've had my CD Rom.  I have:  A:\  (3.5" drive)
 >                                     B:\  (5.25" drive)
 >                                     C:\  (345MB hard drive)
 >                                     D:\  (245MB hard drive)
 >                                     E:\  (Ram Drive)
 >                                     F:\  (CD Rom)
 >
 > I want my CD Rom to be drive E and my Ram Drive to be drive F.  I
 > have
 > tried changing the attributes on the CD Rom device driver but the
 > RamDrive continues to force itself as drive E and displaces the CD
 > Rom
 > drive as drive F.  Also, I have tried loading the CD Rom device
 > driver
 > before the Ram Drive but it continues to force itself as the drive
 > letter of the CD Rom.  According to the MS Dos manual, the Ram Drive
 > is
 > suppose to become the drive letter after all physical devices.  Why
 > doesn't it treat the CD Rom as a physical device?  Have you
 > encountered
 > this and is there a solution?
 >

      No. the reason is the Device driver for the CD does not reserve a
drive letter.......MSCDEX does this. By the time you run MSCDEX the ram disk
driver has grabbed E: in config.sys. I don't know if this will work but you
could try using SUBST to swap them around, but I really think this is somewhat
silly (IMHO). Having said all this why on earth does it matter?

      Bob.
ripped off

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From: KENSHIN SAKURA                         Number: 11955
  To: RAY MATTHEWS                             Date: 01/13/94  4:34p
Subj: Re: T7G microscope                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

*** Quoting Ray Matthews to Kenshin Sakura ***

RM>     I finished the game, but never was able to do this puzzle
RM> either. It was the only one that I couldn't solve on my own, and
RM> had to solve by using 'the book'.

     Well... I am one of these people that just HAS to finish all the puzzles,
and I really want to finish this one. Someone, ANYONE who has completed this
puzzle... please, please give me a few hints!

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From: KENSHIN SAKURA                         Number: 11956
  To: DEREK STUTSMAN                           Date: 01/13/94  4:35p
Subj: Re: The 7th Guest.                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

*** Quoting Derek Stutsman to Kenshin Sakura ***

DS> Actually, it does.  Warp to the cluebook and back three times,
DS> and the
DS> microscope puzzle will be solved for you!

     Well, that's sorta "cheating" in a way. I just want to finish the puzzle
and the two clues don't help much. I know what to do, but I just can't seem to
succeed.

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From: CHUCK SPEAR                            Number: 11957
  To: KENSHIN SAKURA                           Date: 01/14/94  4:26a
Subj: The 7th Guest.                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Kenshin!

13 Jan 94 16:35, Kenshin Sakura wrote to Derek Stutsman:

 KS> *** Quoting Derek Stutsman to Kenshin Sakura ***

 DS>> Actually, it does.  Warp to the cluebook and back three
 DS>> times, and the microscope puzzle will be solved for you!

 KS>      Well, that's sorta "cheating" in a way. I just want to
 KS> finish the puzzle and the two clues don't help much. I know what
 KS> to do, but I just can't seem to succeed.
 Nope, not cheating at all. The clue book tells you to skip this one, it
doesn't work the way it should. Just look in the clue book 3 times, and go on.
The support line also says that you really don't miss anything doing it this
way.

<<Chuck>>

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From: MATT DELCO                             Number: 11958
  To: WARREN BIRD                              Date: 01/13/94  4:57p
Subj: Panasonic Drive                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

WB>Hi All...

WB>I have a panasonic CR-563-B and i would like to know the specs on it.

Single Speed mode:

200-530 rpm
150/kbps
Random access time:  380ms typical
Fullstroke access time:  660ms typical
Buffersize: 60kbps
Soft read errors: less than 10 to the -9 power
Hard read errors: less than 10 to the -12 power

Double speed mode (only stats different from single mode listed)

400-1060rpm
300kbps
random access time: 320ms typical
fullstroke access time: 640ms typical

WB>I would also like to know what Card i can run it off...

The box says Sound Blaster Pro, Pro II, or 16 ASP
I  bought the CD-ROM from Reveal, and it also supports their
Sound FX Pro, or 16 bit Studio EMC

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From: JOHN ULLMER                            Number: 11959
  To: DIANE PENCIL                             Date: 01/14/94  9:33a
Subj: Re: The 7th Guest                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Diane Pencil to John Ullmer <=-


 >         I'm sorry I wasted my money on this megalomaniac's game.

 DP> So am I. It's too bad you can't appreciate a job well done.
 DP> I hate the Wing Commander series and yet I love the intro
 DP> sequence. Same with X-wing. If it's not your cup of tea,
 DP> don't buy it, but please don't discourage others from
 DP> appreciating any truly good piece of software because you
 DP> don't get it.

        Unfortunately, madam, it is not possible to know what is
        in a game before one buys it.

        I WILL discourage others from wasting money on something
        that is poorly designed.  Similar, repetitive puzzles, all
        focused on a single concept unrelated to a story line is NOT
        good game design.

        I'm certainly happy you were able to finish the game, and
        that you are totally enthralled with it.  I believe this
        conference is here for the purpose of _discussing_ PC
        games.  Your injunctions to me to cease and desist from
        expressing my opinion WILL NOT BE HEEDED!




... Play chess, NOT Seventh Guest.
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From: JOE HOWES                              Number: 11960
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/13/94 11:31p
Subj: Texel changes its name                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

        Recieved a fax at work the other day from Texel informing us
that they've changed thier name to Plextor.  Watch for Plextor, ladies
and gents!


... If at first you don't succeed, screw it.  Give up.
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From: SEAN SINICO                            Number: 11961
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/13/94  2:01p
Subj: 3401 Drivers! Help Me!                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello all you lucky Toshiba 3401 owners! (And anyone who may know how to
help me)

I own a 3401 external model, and Adaptec t130b interface card. But
presently, I have no drivers. I do own SCSIworks which doesn't seem to
do anything. I am looking for drivers, as I REALLY want to use my nice
CD ROM.  Its just no fun sitting there when I can't use it.

Any information would be warmly welcomed.

Thanks,

Sean Sinico
 * RM 1.2  * Eval Day 1 * My other computer is a 986 with 10x CD-ROM.

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From: SEAN SINICO                            Number: 11962
  To: RYAN FLETCHER                            Date: 01/13/94 10:24p
Subj: Scsi Cd Drives ?                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

RF> I agree.  I bought a Toshiba 3401 and was under the impression that
RF> it came with the SCSI card.  Too good to be true, eh?  Turns out I
RF> had th spend another $100 for an Adaptec card!!  You have to look
RF> really close to find 'em or you can just look in the index.

   Hello there Ryan. A while ago I had the exact same problem that you
are now talking about. I also have a Adaptec card (T130b), and still do
not have drivers. Can you tell me which ones you are using, where you
got them and a price?

Thanks,

Sean Sinico

 * RM 1.2  * Eval Day 1 * Please steal this tagline, and spread it around the
world.

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From: RONALD LEON                            Number: 11963
  To: WEE YUNG                                 Date: 01/09/94 11:29p
Subj: Nec 3xi/Sb16scsi-2                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

WY>CD-ROM NEC 3XI SCSI Tripple spin 195ms External.$589/Internal..$489

Will you beat USA Flex price of $459 internal?


 * WinQwk 2.0 a#435 * This country was founded by religious nuts with guns!


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From: RONALD LEON                            Number: 11964
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/09/94 11:43p
Subj: MItsumi 4 sale                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Mitsumi single speed internal model. In the the box with all docs and
controller. Perfect.

$150 plus shipping, COD is $5.

Ron
813-978-0527


 * WinQwk 2.0 a#435 * This country was founded by religious nuts with guns!


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From: ELLEN COTTON                           Number: 11965
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 01/08/94 12:43p
Subj: Re: !free Cd catalog!                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Please send your free CD catalog to:
    J. Ellen Cotton
    1105 N.W. 6th Place
    Moore, OK 73170-1201
                  ...thanks!



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From: TONY MORRIS                            Number: 11966
  To: MIKE CANE                                Date: 01/11/94  9:38a
Subj: Re: Rebel Assult Patch??                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 > another code for rebel assualt's easy level is "anoat"
 > anybody know
 > more?


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 >  * Origin: ALTERED ILLUSIONS Dayton, NJ 908-329-3216
 > (1:107/102.0)
hi mike. i have all the codes for the easy level and a few for the medium
level. the codes for the easy level are: yuzzem -for after the fight on hoth,
brigia-for after the defeat of the cannon on the death star, and greedo to see
the ending sequence. the codes for the medium level that i know are: biggs-for
after ru murleen, and [C [kaiburr-for after the asteriod field. hope you
enjoy. if anyone knows the codes for any of the others please let me know.
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From: MICHAEL FIORINI                        Number: 11967
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/08/94 10:46a
Subj: Philips Cdom                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 I've got an old philips cd-rom drive . But the controller and the
drivers for this cd-rom were missing when I got it :(

 The Cd-rom drive reference is: Philips Type CM-212
                                It's a SCSI drive I think


 So the question is: What type of controller does I need and
 where could I find the drivers for this cd-rom drive.


 Thanks In advance for your help !

 Michaël



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From: LESLIE RHORER                          Number: 11968
  To: JOHN ULLMER                              Date: 01/13/94  3:21a
Subj: Re: REAL TIME VIDEO ??                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 LR> The Pioneer DRM-604X is a 612KB/s drive that holds six CD-ROM
 LR> disks  in the same 6-disk magazine that Pioneer offers for its 6
 LR> and 18 disk home audio compact disk players.  This allows
 LR> one to have six CD-ROM disks online.  It is a SCSI-II
 LR> drive, and each disk is accessed as a separate embedded
 LR> target of the single SCSI ID.  The cost of the drive has
 LR> hovered fairly steadily around $1175, plus interface cable.
 LR> I have seen a rumour that Pioneer is soon releasing a
 LR> single disk version of the drive, and I believe that they
 LR> already offer an 18 disk version.



 JU>         Clearly there is/was a confusion here.  The original message, I
 JU>         thought, was about SPEED (i.e., single, double, triple spin).

 JU>         You, on the other hand, were talking about multi-DISK drives, not
 JU>         multi-SPIN drives.

        No, I am talking about quad speed drives.  As of the time that I write
this, and for the past year, the only drive on the market to offer a 600KB/s
transfer rate is the Pioneer DRM-604X.  There are also of course a number of
450KB/s drives available, and I am sure that other manufacturers will soon be
producing 600KB/s drives.  The bottom line, however, is that the 604X is now
available, and has been so for quite some time, and is a quad spin drive.  It
also happens to be a six disc drive.

        Les

When I was your age, hard drives were as big as pizzas!

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From: JOHN ULLMER                            Number: 11969
  To: MATT CULLEN                              Date: 01/13/94  6:33a
Subj: Re: Good Games.                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Kyle Machulis to Matt Cullen <=-

 KM> Matt Cullen wrote
 KM> +-------------------------------+
 KM> XXXCan anyone recommend any good CD-ROM games. I gut' Battle
 KM> XXXChess and  Return to Zork ,tthere both great...I just got my
 KM> CDdrive XXXso I am not familar with the software that is out. I heard
 KM> MYST was a XXXgood game. your help would be apppreciated,
 KM> +-------------------------------+

 KM> Myst or Lawnmower Man would be my picks...


        Return to Zork, Inca, Rebel Assault



... Play chess, NOT Seventh Guest.
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From: JOHN ULLMER                            Number: 11970
  To: KYLE MACHULIS                            Date: 01/13/94  6:37a
Subj: Re: Lots 'O Questions!                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Kyle Machulis to John Ullmer <=-

 KM> John Ullmer wrote
 KM> +-------------------------------+
 KM> XXXLater, after I wrote the message you have quoted, I checked
 KM> XXXthe directories, and there's no where near that amount of space
 KM> XXXtaken up.  They all run between 1.5 to 4 megs.  Why the
 KM> XXXinstalls said they were going to take up that space is beyond
 KM> +-------------------------------+

 KM> If any of those were installed in Windows, you never know where
 KM> they'll throw the files...


        Hey, Kyle.  I do dumb things sometimes.  And I make mistakes
        sometimes,

        BUT I AIN'T BEEN DUMB ENOUGH TO MAKE THE MISTAKE OF WINDOZE!




... I live in a Windowless house;  doors only.
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From: JOHN ULLMER                            Number: 11971
  To: KEVIN O'BUCKLEY                          Date: 01/13/94  2:27p
Subj: Re: CHOICES!!!                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Derek Stutsman to Kevin O'buckley <=-

 KO>I'm having a real problem choosing between two software packages:
 KO>        Should I buy The Seventh Guest or Return to Zork?
 KO>        They both look excellent, and cost the same for me.
 KO>        If anyone has experience with both games,
 KO>        please let me know which you prefer...

 DS> Depends.  T7G is mostly puzzle-oriented, like chess games and the
 DS> like.   RTZ is more of an adventure game with clues and creative
 DS> solutions.  Which  do you prefer?  I liked RTZ, personally..



 DS> Derek Stutsman


        Make that two votes for RTZ; minus 10 for 7th Guest.




... Play chess, NOT Seventh Guest.
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From: JOHN ULLMER                            Number: 11972
  To: LOUISE NORTON                            Date: 01/13/94  2:32p
Subj: Re: Ferrets                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Louise Norton to All <=-

 LN> Hello All.  We are starting a new project for entertainment in our
 LN> household  this year....It is call project SAVE.  we have made
 LN> arrangments to rescue all Ferrets brought into our Humane
 LN> Society,  At present ANY Fwrret brought in is put to sleep
 LN> without fail..  we have decieded to run a clearing house
 LN> for all Ferrets ...keeping track of lost and found pets as
 LN> well as saving those about to be put to sleep.

  If you have a used or unwanted Ferret
 LN> PLEASE leave us a line here and we will get back to you.
 LN> Thanks ever.  LOUISE


        Sounds like a plot for a Disney movie, but I don't
        think it'll made a very good CD-ROM game.




... I used to play tag when I was a kid.
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From: JOHN ULLMER                            Number: 11973
  To: LESLIE RHORER                            Date: 01/13/94  2:47p
Subj: Re: REAL TIME VIDEO ??                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Leslie Rhorer to John Ullmer <=-

   The bottom line, however, is
 LR> that the 604X is now available, and has been so for quite
 LR> some time, and is a quad spin drive.  It also happens to be a six disc
 LR> drive.
 LR> Les

        Thanks for the info.  That doesn't sound like something
        affordable for a home computer system.

        Why would a company NOT make a single drive unit if it has
        a speed twice that of contemporary technology?  And why
        make triple spin drives when the quad spin technology is already
        available?  Something does not sound kosher here.




... When I was your age, there were NO hard disks.
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From: JOHN ULLMER                            Number: 11974
  To: DAVID WATT                               Date: 01/13/94  2:53p
Subj: Re: RETURN TO ZORK MEMOR                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Brice Fleckenstein to David Watt <=-

 >Return to Zork says I need 5120 bytes more free memory.

 >Files=40 DEVICE=C:\WINDOWS\HIMEM.SYS DEVICE=C:\WINDOWS\EMM386.EXE DOS=HIGH

 BF> The files statement, as I recall, should come AFTER the DOS=HIGH
 BF> statement.
 >STACKS=9,256

 BF> STACKS=0,0 should help some, if the above is NOT the problem.



  Try:   DOS = High, umb
         DEVICEHIGH = C:\WINDOWS\HIMEM.SYS
         DEVICEHIGH = C:\WINDOWS\EMM386.EXE
        <Any other drivers should be use the DEVICEHIGH command too>
         Files =30
         Buffers = 20



... RAM: Rarely adequate memory.
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From: JOHN ULLMER                            Number: 11975
  To: CHIPPER WILSON                           Date: 01/13/94  2:59p
Subj: Re: The 7th Guest                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Chip Slate to Chipper Wilson <=-

 -=> Quoting Chipper Wilson to Anyone <=-

 CW> I may be just plain stupid, but the puzzle with the bishops has
 CW> got me stumped.  What's the objective???


        Objective: to put the white bishops on the left side
        of the board, and the black on the right side.

        Bishops only move diagonally.

        You cannot put a bishop in jeopardy (same diagonal line)
        with an opposing bishop.

        Have fun with the knights and the queens when you get
        to them.




... Play chess, NOT Seventh Guest.
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From: JUDITH NELSON                          Number: 11976
  To: JERRY MICKISH                            Date: 01/13/94  2:57p
Subj: Re: TEXEL, MITSUMI CD-ROM               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 JM> Has anybody out there heard anything bad or otherwise about Texel and
 JM> Mitsumi  double speed (MPC-2 compliant) CD-ROMs?

Hi Jerry.  I bought the Mitsumi FX001 double speed CDROM and the soundblaster
16 Multi-CD card.  Came to about $350.  Everything works great!  Software
I've tried includes:  OS/2 (cdrom), 7th Guest, Multimedia encyclopedia,
Wing Commander II, and others.  No problems.  I've  heard lots of things about
Mitsumi drives, good and bad, but for  the price it was hard to beat!  Hope
this helps!
Judy
... I call things as I see them; If I didn't see them, I make them up!
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From: RANDY WHITE                            Number: 11977
  To: CRAIG MYERS                              Date: 01/13/94 10:01p
Subj: CD                                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

The reason I haven't sent you the CD is because I forgot which one you wanted,
I'm sorry I haven't been able to get on the computer much lately...So leave me
a message and I will mail it as soon as I find out which one to mail, I still
have the Money order for 12.00.  Thanks, Randy

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From: CHRISTOPH STEINECKE                    Number: 11978
  To: CHAD REID                                Date: 01/12/94 11:20p
Subj: Re: Police Quest                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Chad Reid@1:207/703.0 meinte am 10.01.94
zum Thema "Police Quest":


CS>>   Well they could've made much more out of PQ4 !

CS>>   it really sucks big time

CR>I don't think so, I've made it to the second day and it seems pretty
CR>good, a lot of action. The only thing that I didn't like was that they
CR>dropped Sonny Bonds, I looked playing the Saga of Sonny Bonds, that's
CR>what gave it that gaming feel.

   Well i solved PQ4 with 424 Point (has anybody more)
   and i'm not satisfied with the game at all !

   I have no idea where the 20MB went !

   Too many loose ends that weren't solved, the end was total
   shit, I mean the whole situation with the dog and everything,
   but I don't want to give away to much of the story,
   it's just ridicolous.

   And it was to easy, all you needed to do was talk to everybody
   and that was it, fill out a report or so, but norhing compared
   to DOTT or Indy 4, and some riddles were unlogical.

   But's that's just my impression !

Bye
 Chris


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From: CHRISTOPH STEINECKE                    Number: 11979
  To: CHAD REID                                Date: 01/12/94 11:21p
Subj: Re^3: Police Quest                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Chad Reid@1:207/703.0 meinte am 10.01.94
zum Thema "Re^2: Police Quest":

CR>Some companies do, but no Sierra On-Line, with the CD-ROM there is
CR>better sound effects, no text just speech, and many other features.

   Is that really true about the sound-effects ?

   I though they sounded pretty good on the HD Version !

Bye
 Chris


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From: CHRISTOPH STEINECKE                    Number: 11980
  To: CHAD REID                                Date: 01/12/94 11:22p
Subj: Re: SIERRA CDROM                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

DA>>The cd-rom version of the game will not run under DOS, saying it cannot
DA>>initialize my audio hardware, which your garden variety soundblaster.
DA>>So I run it under Windows, and the sound is there but it skips and jerks
DA>>and sounds like a piece of crud.  And it will not save games, so you hve
DA>>to start over every time you play.  HELP!


   There is an update patch for PQ4, sounds like you should
   check it out !

Bye
 Chris


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From: CHRISTOPH STEINECKE                    Number: 11981
  To: KEVIN O'BUCKLEY                          Date: 01/12/94 11:22p
Subj: Re: CHOICES!!!                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Kevin O'buckley@1:260/650 meinte am 09.01.94
zum Thema "CHOICES!!!":

KOb>I'm having a real problem choosing between two software packages:
KOb>        Should I buy The Seventh Guest or Return to Zork?

      Return to Zork all the way, even though it is very difficult,
      but 7th Guest is nothing more than a fancy slideshow

Bye
 Chris


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From: CHRISTOPH STEINECKE                    Number: 11982
  To: JIM CLEMENTS                             Date: 01/12/94 11:25p
Subj: Re: Groilers Encyclpidia ?              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Jim Clements@1:229/15 meinte am 08.01.94
zum Thema "Groilers Encyclpidia ?":

CS>>Can someone tell me if under the word _Corvey_  some
CS>>information is given und the Groilier Encyclopidia ?

CS>>This is really important to me !

CS>> * Origin: How is my writing : Call 1-800-EAT-SHIT (2:242/401.10)

JC>Chris, I only found one reference to the word Corvey (either Cap C
JC>or small c). It is a very brief reference to futher developments of
JC>cathedrals and their entrances.
JC>
JC>BTW, I almost didn't bother when I saw your tagline. Who
JC>needs that sort of stuff. Cheers!

   Well I got it from Falling Down with Michael Dougls, only
   difference was , that it was on a license plate, and it
   said : How is my driving......


   But as you can see, I got a new tagline !



Bye
 Chris


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From: CHRISTOPH STEINECKE                    Number: 11983
  To: CHAD REID                                Date: 01/12/94 11:26p
Subj: Re: Police Quest                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Chad Reid@1:207/703.0 meinte am 09.01.94
zum Thema "Police Quest":

RB>> > Sierra is the best in adventure gaming.

RB>>Every play Lucasarts games? I prefer them.

CR>I've never heard of them, tell me some about them.

   strange - never heard of Rebel Assault ?

   Since there's so much talk about it here in this area !

Bye
 Chris


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From: CHAD REID                              Number: 11984
  To: TODD BOWMAN                              Date: 01/13/94  4:00a
Subj: POLICE QUEST                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

TB> -=> Quoting Chad Reid to Ricky Booth <=-

TB> RB>Normal/Special? The HD version is the low end version. The CD-ROM versio
TB>is
TB> RB>the normal Sierra high-end game, with all talking etc.
TB> RB>I'd never buy a non-cd sierra game...

TB> CR> Sierra is the best in adventure gaming.

TB> I'll second that!  I can't wait to check out their latest games.  I
TB> guess Tim Curry is supposed to be one of the voices on the "Gabriel
TB> Knight - Sins of the Fathers" disc.

Have you seen some of the new ones, do you have the Police Quest series.


Chad

 * OLX 2.2 * And God said: E =  mv  - Ze /r ...and there *WAS* light!


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From: CHAD REID                              Number: 11985
  To: RICKY BOOTH                              Date: 01/13/94  4:00a
Subj: Police Quest                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

RB> > I've never heard of them, tell me some about them.

RB>The Secret of Monkey Island, Monkey Island ][, Day of the Tentacle, and Indi
RB>Jones:Fate of Atlantis just to name a few. Excellent adventure games with to
RB>notch graphics and sound. The best.

I think I've heard of Indiana Jones but I don't know about the others.


Chad


 * OLX 2.2 * Oxymoron: Tight Flexibility.


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From: CHAD REID                              Number: 11986
  To: MIKE AVILA                               Date: 01/13/94  4:00a
Subj: Desert Storm CD                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

MA>I am looking to buy my son the Time Desert Storm CD.  1) Is this a good
MA>CD, plenty of pictures, preferably AVI movies with sound?  2) Cheapest
MA>price I saw was $19 + $5 shipping; is that a good price?

It is supposed to be top quality, I havn't seen it running but I saw it
in a store priced for $45.


Chad


 * OLX 2.2 * C Error #029: Well! I'm impressed


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From: THE LAWMAN                             Number: 11987
  To: LOUISE NORTON                            Date: 01/13/94 10:38p
Subj: Ferrets                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> Hello All.  We are starting a new project for entertainment in our ho
-> this year....It is call project SAVE.  we have made arrangments to re
-> Ferrets brought into our Humane Society,  At present ANY Fwrret broug
-> put to sleep without fail..  we have decieded to run a clearing house
-> Ferrets ...keeping track of lost and found pets as well as saving tho
-> to be put to sleep. After a week of cheaking out other plans on the c
-> have started our program here.  we now have two of our own and a new
-> was crippled and left.  We would welcome any information you may have
-> more than willing to work with you in any way.  If you have a used or
-> Ferret PLEASE leave us a line here and we will get back to you.   Tha
-> LOUISE
->
-> --- LoraBBS-OS/2 v2.33-7+
->  * Origin: Moonlight Delight BBS (1:344/81.0)

Can't see how this relates to cdroms.


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From: ONNO VRIJBURG                          Number: 11988
  To: JOHN RINEHART                            Date: 01/11/94  9:02p
Subj: Re: !free cd catalog!                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-=> Quoting George Barone to Joe Rinehart <=-

GB> * In a message originally to All, Joe Rinehart said:
 > *********** FREE HUGE CD-ROM DISC & accessories
 > CATALOG!*************
 > For the largest selection & lowest prices, get our NEW
 > catalog...
 > If you'd like a printed copy, send your mailing information
 > to us.
 > We offer CDLIST file attach's upon request.
 > CATALOG FREQ: cdlist.zip    (over 1,100 cd-rom disc titles
 > available)
 >         Internet: [e-mail]
 >     FidoNet: 1:157/479 - RBBSNet 8:965/13 - KesherNet

Could you send a catalog to me, please.

My address :
Att: Onno Vrijburg
P.O. Box 7932
Newton Park
Port Elizabeth
Republic of South Africa
6055

Thank you.

Cheers,
   *- Onno

 * OLX 2.1 TD * ... When in doubt, predict that a trend will continue ...


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From: ONNO VRIJBURG                          Number: 11989
  To: HAYDEN BRADSHAW                          Date: 01/11/94  8:58p
Subj: Cd pricelist                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I just read a message asking you to send a pricelist.  If at all possible,
could you send me a pricelist aswell.

My address is listed below.

Att: O Vrijburg
P.O. Box 7932
Newton Park
Port Elizabeth
Republic of South Africa
6055

Thank you in advance.

Cheers,
   *- Onno

 * OLX 2.1 TD * Unable to locate Coffee -- Operator Halted!


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From: ONNO VRIJBURG                          Number: 11990
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 01/11/94  9:32p
Subj: New cd-rom titles                       Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No

MS>           |   Starvector Sales Bulletin #1:  NEW CD ARRIVALS   |

MS> CD POWERBOX 2 * The newest of the new! Current shareware hits. BBS.....$29

MS> STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 to 5 pcs.
MS> 509-457-2892 (VOICE) * 509-457-2966 (FAX) * 1-800-767-1284 (ORDERS ONLY!!)

What would International Shipping be, I am very interested in ordering, if
shipping is not more than $10 to Republic of South Africa.

Cheers,
  *- Onno

 * OLX 2.1 TD * Press "+" to see another tagline.


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From: STEVE FAIRBAIRN                        Number: 11991
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/13/94  4:35p
Subj: SHAREWARE CDROMS                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Can anyone recommend good OS/2 or Macintosh shareware CDROMs suitable for
posting on a BBS?

Steve


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From: TERRY BLOUNT                           Number: 11992
  To: TOM MILLER                               Date: 01/14/94  9:47a
Subj: Quicken CD                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Tom Miller wrote in a message to Terry Blount:

TM> Terry, have you seen Quickens CD yet?  Suppose to sell for
TM> around 70.00?

Haven't heard of it... why don't you buy a copy to put on this bbs so everyone
can call and download from it?

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From: TERRY BLOUNT                           Number: 11993
  To: D. PILEGGI                               Date: 01/15/94  9:44a
Subj: $99 cd rom drives                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 D.   Pileggi   wrote   in  a    message    to    Terry    Blount:

DP>   Okay.  What is the  price  for  an  audio  cable;  CD  Rom  to
DP> sound card. Thank you for the your reply.

 Audio cables are available from the  company  who  sold  you  the
 sound card.   I have made them with a couple wires out of an  old
 VCR because Creative Labs only offers the cables with a $35  kit.
 All you have to do is get the right and left  channels  connected
 and they are usually clearly marked.

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From: TERRY BLOUNT                           Number: 11994
  To: VINCE SORENSEN                           Date: 01/15/94  9:48a
Subj: GOOD SHAREWARE CDS                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 Vince   Sorensen   wrote   in  a   message   to   Terry   Blount:

-> BTW... did you write one of these shells for a shareware cd?

VS>    Yep,  sure  did...  I  wrote  the  shareware  program  CD-ROM
VS> PRO, and the interfaces on Shareware Explorer...

 I believe it was the Shareware Explorer I  checked  out.   I  was
 checking how you handled errors.  I believe I noticed  that  when
 a path is entered to put a file in a  non-existing  directory  it
 said an error has occurred.  You can check for  "nul"  first  and
 if it does not exist you can tell the  user  the  directory  does
 not exist ...try again.

  Assign( Testfile, Towhere + '\nul' );
  {$i-}  Reset( Testfile);  {$i+}
  If Ioresult <> 0  Then   Begin
  Writeln( '  Error  !   You  have  entered  an  invalid  path.');
  Writeln( ' Press your favorite key to try again or Escape to quit.');
...

 Along with "If Ioresult <> 0"  you may want to check  to  see  if
 the user has pointed the path to the root directory on  C:   ..if
 you are uncompressing files to C:\  there  is a  STRONG  chance a
 novice user will select an archive that has a  sample  config.sys
 or autoexec.bat inside and possibly overwrite their setup. I  did
 not allow archives to be extracted to the  root  directory  but I
 have to change this because it doesn't let the user put  them  on
 the   root   directory   on  a   floppy   disc   either.   <grin>

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From: TERRY BLOUNT                           Number: 11995
  To: DAVID SILVER                             Date: 01/15/94 10:07a
Subj: CREAM OF THE CROP II                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 David   Silver   wrote   in  a   message   to    Terry    Blount:

 TB>  I'm  not  sure   what   you   mean   by   "free   standing?"

DS> To be used on any CD.  There was a blurb  in  the  readme  about
DS> only using these files.bbs creation utils  for  the  Cream  disk
DS> itself - wasn't there?

 If an _END_ user wants to build an "Allfiles"  list  for  another
 cd and include the necessary key words to make  it  possible  for
 my programs to help them set up their  bbs  then I  don't  really
 mind.  I don't want to see  my  utilities  distributed  on  other
 cd's to automatically set up my competitors discs  without  first
 arranging the compen$ation details.

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From: MARTIN CLEAVER                         Number: 11996
  To: PIETROPAOLO BIANCHI                      Date: 01/13/94  8:31a
Subj: U.S. CD-ROM Software                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi Pietropaolo,

In a message of <Sun 9 Jan 94 22:19> to Tim Helton (1:133/515), you wrote:

 TH> For your information, commercial crap IS allowed!

 TH> tim
 TH> co-moderator

 PB> Mr. co-moderator, would you please be so kind as to post a copy of the
 PB> area policy within reasonable terms? I have never seen explicitly
 PB> commercial fido areas here in Z2, i am rather surprised.

I too was somewhat surprised to note the level of commercial involvement in
this echo. Also disappointed to note that there are apparently virtually no
conditions on the nature of comercial advertising... Or checks on its honesty
:-(

Bye, Martin.

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From: RICK NAY                               Number: 11997
  To: AMANDA HARRIS                            Date: 01/14/94 10:45p
Subj: Re: Question                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Did you change the mscdex in your autoexec.bat file..you need to change it so
is says "C:\dos\mscdex.exe /l:f..the f is the drive letter..change it l:e..hope
that works..

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From: SCOTT HOLMES                           Number: 11998
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/14/94  4:18p
Subj: Return to zork                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I too got the update to version 1.1 hoping it would be better. I have a SB16
and the digitized sounds have a "poping" sound (not all digi sounds). This is
annoying to say the least. I have heard that PAS16 have similar trouble. Anyone
else have this trouble, and do you know if it might be fixed?

Scott H.
===
* CmpQwk #UNREG* UNREGISTERED EVALUATION COPY
 * KMail 3.00k Knight Moves


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From: JOEL BAZONSKI                          Number: 11999
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/14/94  2:17p
Subj: BBS Software on CD?                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I'm looking for a CD that has thousands of BBS programs on 1 CD that is
possibly BBS-READY   Is there such thing? Can someone give me a # to call
voice to order it? Thanks
-Alchey

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From: ANDREW DONARUMO                        Number: 12000
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/14/94  7:50p
Subj: CD ROM STUFF                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

wht is the BEST CD-ROM GAME??????!!!!!!?!?!?!??
How MUCH?
thanx
Andrew THE SMART


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From: ARNIE GROSS                            Number: 12001
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/13/94 10:57a
Subj: Re: OS/2 CD-ROMs                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

.

Can anyone please give me an objective comparison
of the following three discs?

(1) OS/2 Companion  (Tropical Publishing, 11/93)

(2) Hobbes OS/2     (Walnut Creek, 10/93)

(3) OS/2 Box        (Damar Enterprises, 9/93)

                                       - Arnie :+}

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From: ARNIE GROSS                            Number: 12002
  To: TERRY GREENMAN                           Date: 01/13/94 11:28a
Subj: Re: SIERRA CDROM                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Terry -

11 Jan 94, Terry Greenman writes to David Anderson:

   DA> ... and it will not save games, so you have to start
   DA> over every time you play.  HELP!

   TG> Umm...it worked on my 286 no problem, and works just
   TG> as well on my 386.  Did you read the README file on

Does YOUR copy of Mother Goose SAVE GAMES?

                                                  - Arnie :+}

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From: CHAD REID                              Number: 12003
  To: BO SHORT                                 Date: 01/14/94  5:19p
Subj: KQ6 Isle/Wonders                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

BS> > Would you like a hint or a straight out answer?

BS>A straight out answer on how to get whats on the other side of the boiling
BS>pond would be nice.  Thanks

Go to the Island, I forgot the name of it, it's a garden and it's right
before Chess Land, get a peice of Iceburg lettuce, take that and go
straight to The Isle of Beasts, throw it into the water. If you need
anymore help let me know.


Chad


 * OLX 2.2 * A fool searches for a greater fool to find admiration.


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From: LAURIE BATT                            Number: 12004
  To: JOHN SWANLAND                            Date: 01/12/94  6:59a
Subj: CR562b and SB                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

G'day John Swanland, In a message on <Jan 08>, you said :

 JS> I have a Panasonic CR562B and a vintage Sound Blaster (1.5)
 JS> The  Panasonic is
 JS> controlled by a WDH-7001C card.  All works well--except on
 JS> a new CD (MS Stravinsky) where I can get the CD sound only
 JS> by plugging headphones into the drive whilst the voice
 JS> commentary comes through the Sound Blaster.

 JS> Am I going to need to buy a newer sound card to make this
 JS> all work properly.

To  work effectively you will have to get a new Sound card. Either the SBPro or
the SB16 for your CDROM, you could then remove the interface card as both of
these cards have the interface fitted. The SB1.5 has no mixing facilities for
the CD Audio.



                                        Laurie

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From: LAURIE BATT                            Number: 12005
  To: GARY HUFF                                Date: 01/12/94  7:10a
Subj: Re: NIGHT OWL 10 VIRUS REPORT           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

G'day Gary Huff, In a message on <Dec 15>, you said :

 GH>
 GH> Get real, friend.  Electras dated back to around 1960, and
                                            ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

                                         >>>>> long before <<<<<<<
A little off-topic for this echo, but Lockeed were producing Electra's in the
thirties (not the 4 engine version). I think from memory Amelia Earheart was
flying in one when she went missing on her round the world flight.
 GH>
 GH> Yes, and that's unfortunate for Nightowl, because it's also
 GH> being ignored that their disks are filled with a very fine

Too true !

 GH>> Nightowl 11... or 12... or 13...  I'll bet they'll run
 GH>> every virus checker they can get their fingers on before
 GH>> they release them.

It may still be possible that one will slip through. It is difficult to detect
a virus when it is in the EXE program before it is pklited. If we expected them
to disassemble every program for virus checking, I think they would only be
releasing once a year as it would take them so long to check them all.


                                        Laurie

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From: LAURIE BATT                            Number: 12006
  To: GARY HUFF                                Date: 01/12/94  7:27a
Subj: Re: panasonic 562                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

G'day Gary Huff, In a message on <Dec 17>, you said :

 GH> understand that.  Audio that is not AC is not audio at
 GH> all... it's nothing.  Once it becomes audio, then quite
 GH> obviously it has a return path... it can't be audio without
 GH> one, and at that point it is simultaneously AC.  ....
 GH> Unless you are somehow insinuating that audio can exist in a
 GH> spiritual sense?

Hmmm this looks like we getting slightly off topic. AUDIO as such has nothing
to do with AC . I cannot hear AC (unless I connect it to a speaker) I hear
Audio. Audio is a vibration of molecules in a medium which my ears detect.
In Fact most in most amplifiers the Audio component is fed electrically as DC
not AC at all. There may be an Alternating component in the DC but it is still
DC. A transistor will not work on AC.


                                        Laurie

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From: ALLAN MIKKELSEN                        Number: 12007
  To: ANDREW BISHOP                            Date: 01/13/94  3:59p
Subj: Driver                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Andrew Bishop to Laurie Batt <=-

 AB> fine, the card I'm using is a laserwave.  The problem that
 AB> I'm having is that I cannot create a file or directory
 AB> I was trying to install After dark and it wanted to create a file
 AB> laser.ad.

 LB> post here a copy of your Autoexec and your config.sys and it will be
 LB> looked at and commented on. I suspect that you may have the setting
 LB> for Mscdex incorrect. The CDROM should appear as another Drive not
 LB> another directory.

 AB> DEVICE=C:\DOS\QEMM\LOADHI.SYS /RF d:\U\SOUND\LW16\LWDOS\LW16.SYS /D3
 AB> /I11 DEVICE=c:\dos\qemm\loadhi.sys /RF c:\dos\cddriver\cdmke43.sys
 AB> /d:laser /n:1
 AB> c:\dos\qemm\loadhi /RF C:\DOS\mscdex /d:laser /m:8 /E /V

 AB> The CD works fine as F: but some how the driver seems to take over the
 AB> word LASER for some reason and I just want to know why.

 Andrew
        I am writing this away from home so cannot check my setup
 but I am almost certain that your d:laser parameter is creating
 a DOS device driver called LASER which is then a RESERVED word.

 I think the errors you are getting are exactly what you will
 get if you try to create a file called CON, AUX, PRN etc.

 If you do a MEM /D (DOS 5 and above) you will get included a
 list if Installed Device Drivers.  I think you will find LASER
 as one of these and SETVERXX (if you run SETVER).

 Without my doco here I am not sure but I think you can change
 all references to laser in your config and autoexec to
 something you are never likely to use and the problems will go away.

 Regards,    Allan

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From: ALAN WHITEMAN                          Number: 12008
  To: JOHN SWANLAND                            Date: 01/12/94  7:19p
Subj: CR562b and SB                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello John!

08 Jan 94 15:27, John Swanland wrote to All:

 JS> I have a Panasonic CR562B and a vintage Sound Blaster (1.5)
 JS> The  Panasonic is
 JS> controlled by a WDH-7001C card.  All works well--except on a new CD
 JS> (MS Stravinsky) where I can get the CD sound only by plugging headphones
 JS> into the drive whilst the voice commentary comes through the Sound
 JS> Blaster.

 JS> Am I going to need to buy a newer sound card to make this all work
 JS> properly.

Not necessarily.

 JS> The AT interface card for  the Panasonic appears to have a sound connector
 JS> as does the drive.  I have never connected them.  What are they for?

You should have received a small 4 wire cable to connect the drive to your
interface card. The cables can be had for under $10 if you didn't receive
one.

 JS> amy help would be appreciated

My setup is similar to yours except I have a SB 2.0. I picked these
instructions up in the CDROM echo some months ago, and have done the
mod myself. It seemed to work ok although initially only one channel
worked, and to get both working required a parallel connect from the
functioning side. Obviously this means mono. You may have better luck
with your sb 1.5, as I suspect the part in the instructions for sb2.0
wasn't totally correct

-------------------------------------------------------------------
  Here's the solution how to get stereo sound from the SoundBlaster 1.0
  when playing CD-audio sounds from the 562 CD-ROM driver using the
  paddle card.

  You'll need:   2pc 18-Kohm 1/4W resistors
                 2pc 10inch flexible wire
                 Misc things, like soldering iron, cutters, etc..

  1. Remove both the SB and the CD-ROM controller, "paddle" card from
     your PC and put them in front of you so you can read the component
     markings on the cards.

  2. Locate the two 10k resistors (colorlabeled brown,black,orange,gold)
     marked "R3" and "R4" one inch behind the MIC input connector on
     the SB card.

  3. Solder one end of the first 18K resistor to the R3 resistor's end
     that points to the mic connector.

  4. Solder one end of the first 10inch wire to the other end of the
     18K resistor and the other end of the wire to the WHITE phono
     connector's center lead on the paddle card.

  5. Solder one end of the second 18K resistor to the R4 resistor's end
     that points at the mic connector.

  6. Solder one end of the second 10inch wire to the other end of the 18K
     resistor that is connected to R4 and the other end of the wire to
     the RED phono connector's center lead on the paddle card.

  7. Protect the 18k resistors from shortcircut other parts of the SB
     card by putting some shrinktubing over them.


  The 18k resitors was choosen to get a 1-1 soundlevel between sampled
  sound and cd audiotrack sound. If a non 562 cd-drive is used, the
  values probable have to be adjusted. Use values down to 6.8k to get
  louder CD audio, and up to 33k to get more SB audio.

                        Happy stereo listening.            Ubbe.

P.S  This can also be done to the SB 2.0, but the 10k resistors are
     located 2 inches from mic connector and are marked "R21" and R23".
     NOTE! The 18k resistor connecting to R21 should be soldered to
     the end of R21 pointing AWAY from the mic connector.
-------------------------------------------------------------------

Regards, Alan

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From: ROY AUSTEN                             Number: 12009
  To: RAYMOND WONG                             Date: 01/12/94  7:04a
Subj: Rebel Assault                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Raymond,

Saturday January 08 1994, Raymond Wong writes to All:

 RW> (1)  Is there a SAVE command for this game because I have to start all
 RW> over again every time I feel like playing the game... (2)  The joystick
 RW> seems to be moving arounf and not stable... (3)  Where can I get the
 RW> patches for this game (I've noticed the new from this echo) (4)  Is there
 RW> any trainer for this game because I always crash into the rock, guess the
 RW> joystick is not that stable...... ThanX for any advices.... Regards,

The patch is requestable here from 3:670/301 as REBEL14.ZIP or from area 6 via
the bbs on 61-03-44-9762.

Rgds,
Roy..
Megalist HQ Australia
Voice: [phone]

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From: IAN BURRELL                            Number: 12010
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/12/94  7:03p
Subj: Nat Geographic CD                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi

I have not been able to get the National Geographic Mammals  CD to
work. After typing GO (for the batch file), I get the opening
screen but the mouse will not activate the "BEGIN" button.  The
mouse is working OK (checked after
pressing F1 and using the mouse to cancel the inset menu that
appears.
The inset menu has the message "Missing Reference File" but as it
does not elaborate, and I have no idea which reference file it is
referring to, I can't help it.
The mouse arrow appears to be in lower resolution graphics (e.g.
CGA).
My CONFIG.SYS includes the following line
Devicehigh c:\tscsi\tslcdr.sys /d:TSLCD (this is the driver I use
for my NEC external CD ROM
My AUTOEXEC.BAT file includes the following line
LH /l:2,36224 c:\DOS\mscdex /d:tslco /m:10
The MSCDEX is the latest one (direct from Microsoft)
Do you have any clues on what I am doing wrong or what I am not
doing?
I have tried various other files, including those in the MAMMALS
sub-dir but have not been able to get it working.

Regrads and please help

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From: TONY STOTT                             Number: 12011
  To: STEVE BLACKMORE                          Date: 01/14/94  8:07a
Subj: Caches                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On 12-30-93,  Steve Blackmore elucidated to Dave Drury:

SB>Smartdrv 5.0 will - but its part of Dos 6.2 - what you really need is
SB>Qemm or some other memory manager. The drivers eat memory, i.e CR56X =
SB>11K, Smartdrv = 30K - Ive lots of TSR's loaded and the best i can get
SB>without Qemm is 528K - with 630K!

Steve, you DON'T need Qemm to get enough memory. Here, running DOS 6.0, I
have 523k available memory AFTER logging onto a Banyan LAN, as below:-


  Type of Memory          Total       =       Used        +    Free
  --------------  ---------------- -----------------  ---------------
  Conventional    655360   (640K)  119456   (117K)    535904   (523K)
  Upper           142304   (139K)  142304   (139K)         0     (0K)
  Adapter RAM/ROM 393216   (384K)  393216   (384K)         0     (0K)
  Extended (XMS) 7197728  (7029K) 6149152  (6005K)   1048576  (1024K)
  --------------  ---------------- ----------------  ---------------
  Total memory   8388608  (8192K) 6804128  (6645K)   1584480  (1547K)

  Total under1MB  797664   (779K)  261760   (256K)    535904   (523K)

The Banyan drivers use up 70k up high, so outside the LAN, I have 593k.
Every software I throw at the PC works great... IMHO, QEMM is not
necessary in most cases, as good ol' DOS can usually get the job done.


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From: CHRIS ANSELL                           Number: 12012
  To: JULIEN PIERRE                            Date: 01/12/94 12:28p
Subj: Re: Rebel Assault PATCH ??              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

hI PIERRE, MY NAME IS CHRIS ANSELL AND I AM FROM AUSTRALIA. I WOULD LIKE TO
KNOW WHAT YOU THINK OF THE SNOWALKER BIT IN REBEL ASSAULT , COZ I HAVE NEVER
SEEN IT AND I AM DYING TO SEE WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE. ALSO, HAVE YOU FOUND THAT THE
PATCH WORKS ALL THE TIME? OR DOES REBEL ASSAULT STILL HANG? iF YOU KNOW OF ANY
OTHER GREAT CD ROM GAMES THAT ARE NEW, WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO TELL ME SOMETHING
ABOUT THEM, COZ THERE ARE SOME GREAT GAMES NOW FOR CD ROM. i SAW THAT LAWNMOWER
MAN IS COMING OUT, IT LOOKS UNREAL.
REGARDS, CHRIS ANSELL

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From: PAUL FARRAND                           Number: 12013
  To: RUSSELL COOK                             Date: 01/10/94  9:51p
Subj: SBPII & Pana CR-562B                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Russell,
        Thank you for yuor message, I have managed to get it working with a new
version of CDMKE.SYS using the /N:1
 Thnaks for you message and assistance, much appreciated!

Cheers,
        Paul


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From: MIKE NAPPER                            Number: 12014
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/13/94  8:48p
Subj: Problems with Grolier & DOS6.2          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I have a new Australian Creative Discovery kit (SB PRO + Creative/Panasonic CD)
and Groliers Encyclopedia v1.5 refuses to set up under dos 6.2.
It gives "SHADOW caused a generel protection fault in module KRNL386.EXE at
0001:73C3".

It sets up fine under dos 6.0 - no problems at all.

I have tried mscdex.exe v2.22 and 2.23.

Anyone got any ideas why?

Does anyone know if the 1994 Groliers sets up with DOS 6.2 ok?

Is the "Software Toolworks Multimedia Encylopedia Version 1.5" the real
Groliers or is it a cut down version packaged for Creative kits?

Thanks in anticipation for any responses.

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From: JOHN TOMCZYK                           Number: 12015
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 01/11/94 11:37p
Subj: !free Cd catalog!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi Joe!! Would you mind please sending me a copy of youre catalog.
Look forward to your reply....Regards, John

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From: ANDREW BISHOP                          Number: 12016
  To: STEVE MANN                               Date: 01/12/94 10:15a
Subj: Re: Mechwarrior II                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 SM> Hi Andrew,

 SM> You asked about the game "Mechwarrior II The Clan" advertised on your
 SM> Return To Zork CD.  This is scheduled for release in about 4 weeks.  I
 SM> should have it in stock a couple of days after release.  I have been
 SM> given no indication from Activision about pricing as yet.

Thanks, could you send me a message when you do get an idea of the price, and
the cost of shipping to S.A.?  If so thanks.

Andrew Bishop.

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From: ROY DAVIS                              Number: 12017
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/12/94  1:15p
Subj: Sound                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I have a MEDIA VISION Fusion CD16  with a Sony CDU 31A
.
I) But can only get sound out of one speaker!
2) When CD Rom 'The Animals' is run the speech and movements are poor & jerky!
.
Can anyone offer advice?
.
Autoexec reads C:\DOS\MSCDEX.EXE /D:MVCD001 /M:10 /E /V /L:I /e
Config reads   C:\FUSION16\MVSOUND.SYS D:3 Q:7 J:1 S:1,220,1,5
2nd line       C:\FUSION16\SLCD.SYS /D:MVCD001 /B:1F88 /M:p
.
Am using DOS 6.2
         Stacker ( Has always been stable )
         QEMM    ( Optimize says everything checks out OK )
.
Have checked cables, tried speakers with/without batteries.
.
I get error on command line when I add  ....  ,1,5 M to first line of Config
.
( Media Vision here in Melbourne Australia, requests a password before they
answer the phone! Guess it's a dealers only help line )
.
Thank you
Roy Davis.


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From: CHRIS ANSELL                           Number: 12018
  To: TONY STOTT                               Date: 01/13/94 11:17p
Subj: Rebel Assult                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi Leon, i am giving you more of this coulourful english so here goes. Thanks
for the info ion rebel assualt. I can't wait to get it. i have all the codes
for it if you want, plus i know an excellent cheat for it. At the lucasarts
logo at the start, get your joystick and push up +fire,down +fire, left +fire,
right +fire. then, when playing the game, press shift and the plus (+) sign
together to give you fresh health. hahahah, i bet you'll love that. I just had
a friend of mine over from sacromento, he showed a catalog from "computer city
supercenter". i am amazed, a 14400 modem in australia costs 590.! you guys are
so lucky. Have you heard of a cd rom game called critical path? if so , could
you pass on any opinions about it. What are some excellent games on cd rom that
you have seen working? oh well, gotta go, i am online still coz i haven't
worked out how to use the offline mailreader.damn.
regards, chris ansell

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From: CHRIS ANSELL                           Number: 12019
  To: EVERYBODY                                Date: 01/13/94 11:30p
Subj: write to cdrom                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi everyone, i was just wandering if ANYONE knew if a date has been mentioned
when cd roms will become writable, ie transfer files from hard disk onto the
cd. I know at the moment this technology is very pricey and used only by
professional companys, but let's face it, this is the next big step in cd rom
development. I know that cd rom developers are holding back and the software
developers are holding mass prayers that this never develops, (ie piracy
reemerging) but demand willl bring about changes i am sure. If you have any
opinion on this or now anything, i would love to hear from you down here in
australia.
regards, chris ansell

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 12020
  To: ARNIE GROSS                              Date: 01/15/94  3:53a
Subj: Re: NEW CD'S                            Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No

On 11 Jan 94 09:42am, Arnie Gross wrote to Boris Osadciw:

>>    Boris -

   BO>> OS/2 Companion      470+ megs - 2,400+ files - BBS Ready
   BO>>                     Loaded with graphics, multimedia,
   BO>>                     networking, fonts and more!

>>    Is this the 11/93 release from Tropical Publishing?

Yes this is...

>>    What percentage of this disc is for OS/2 version 1.x ???

Less than 5% and that's making a high quess.

>>    I was very disappointed with the Hobbes disc because of the
>>    amount of out-dated files, whereas I'm told the OS/2 Box
>>    (Damar) is all 2.x stuff.

>>    How do these three discs compare?

Since I'am not an OS/2 user, it would be hard for me to give an honest answer.

But in looking at what they have to offer and compairing prices, I'd say
OS/2 Companion is about the best bang for the buck and Hobbes would be
the second best.

   BO>> Price - $16.00 ec + Free Diagnostic cd offer

>>    Good price!  Is the freebie the Profit Press disc, or
>>    something newer?

In the insert that comes with the cd, there is NO statement that says
it comes from Profit Press at all. It does say it's a "PC Paramedic(tm)
Diagnostic" cd. It also states, that for an additional $15. you can get
a shareware Grab-bag for Microsoft Windows 3.1.



Boris Osadciw

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 12021
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/15/94  3:53a
Subj: NEW NIGHT OWL                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

            N E W   N I G H T  O W L  11.  R E L E A S E

* Over 640 Meg's        * No Dupes       * No Dupes To Previous Versions
* All Zipped Files      * New Viewer     * 60% Files Released last 90 days
"Night Owl 11. "  offer's over 5,000 all new files and supports for areas
such as Windows, OS/2, Games, Fonts, Ham Radio, Lan, Business and more !
           Call Now And Get Your Copy ! - PRICE - $30.00
   Best Of The Best - Night Owl 11. + Cream Of The Crop II - $50.00

ORDERS ONLY!  US/CAN  800-243-0517  TEC/QUES 216-225-3263  FAX [phone]

Boris Osadciw

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 12022
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/15/94  3:53a
Subj: CDROM SYSTEMS                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

**************** C D - R O M    D R I V E   P R I C E S ****************
NEC 74 280ms Ext Bare   - $379.00  NEC 84 280ms Int Bare - $349.00 -SCSI
Panasonic 562 Int Kit   - $239.00  Phillips Int 400ms Bare $185.00 -SCSI
Pioneer DRM602X Bare    - $895.00  Pioneer DRM604X Bare  - $1069.  -SCSI
Pioneer DRM1804X 18disk - $1895.   Texel Int 245ms w/ctl - $369.00 -SCSI
Texel Ext 245ms Bare    - $469.00  Texel Int 3021 Bare   - $189.00 -SCSI
Texel Ext Complete Kit  - $569.00  Toshiba Int 3401B Bare- $379.00 -SCSI
Toshiba Ext 3401B Bare  - $479.00  ( Groilers Encyc DOS v6. or 5. $49. )

ORDER'S ONLY US/CAN 800-243-0517 TECH/QUES 216-225-3263 FAX [phone]


Boris Osadciw

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From: NORM HILL                              Number: 12023
  To: RALPH LINDEMANN                          Date: 01/14/94  5:52p
Subj: Re: Caches                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

RL>Hello Freaks,

RL>how come everybody is talking about the new DOS 6.2 smartdrive when it

RL>comes down to caching your CD ROM and Harddisk?

RL>Isn't there anything a little more advanced and of course faster ?

RL>CU RALPH
RL>--
RL>**  **

RL>--- CrossPoint v2.92
RL> * Origin: Skaax (2:242/1216.7)

Who the hell are you calling someone a freak?  In scope of things, YOU
are the one who looks like a freak.  Geez... ever heard the expression
"You get a lot more flies with honey than you get do with vinager"

        Norm Hill.

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From: BRIAN GREGORY                          Number: 12024
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/12/94  4:02p
Subj: OS/2 and CD-ROMS                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Anyone having problems installing OS/2 for Windows from CD?  If so, pretty
much forget about support from IBM, it's almost non-exsistent to say the
least.

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From: LEO MILLER                             Number: 12025
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/14/94  1:54p
Subj: NEC CDR-36/T-128                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

        Have heard several people trying to get the older NEC CDR-36
external CD-ROM to work with fast CPU's. With my old/slow 286 boat
anchor, it worked OK. When I transferred the Trantor T-128 SCSI 8 bit
card to my new 486/33 EISA, MSCDEX.EXE (ver's 2.0 thru 2.22) reported
"Not ISO format" errors. After 2 hours of elevator music, NEC Customer
Support finally admitted that it's documentation was out-dated. The
Trantor T-128 doc's wrongly stated that Dip Sw's 1-4 were labeled
"Reserved...OFF." Sw-4 should be "ON" probably to disregard bus timing,
and Sw-6 should be "ON" for no wait state. NEC Support BBS has a new set
of drivers dated 2-09-93. Download NEC_SCSI.EXE dated 4-20-93. Files for
the T-128 are MA120.SYS and NECCDR.SYS.
        Another solution is to use a parallel port SCSI adapter. The
Trantor T-338 and faster T-348 seem to work OK, even with the old
supplied drivers. This is the best solution for a laptop. But if you can
get the T-128 bus adapter to work, the throughput is about 4 times
faster than the T-338. The CDR-36 may be slow, but just don't expect
Multi-Media out of it.



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From: JASON WAGNER                           Number: 12026
  To: CHRIS ZITO                               Date: 01/13/94  2:52a
Subj: Doom on a GUS?                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 CZ> This is the power of Qsound.  It's available on SSF2 and Mortal Kombat
 CZ> II.  It is available on Sega CD's ECCO Dolphin.  It is used in music
 CZ> CD's.  It is also available on the GUS, and possibly SB16's and other
 CZ> DSP boards in the near future.

  That is amazing... a friend of mine picked up a "3D" music CD... The music
  comes from all around you!  I cannot even being to imagine something like
  that on a PC!  How cool!

  Jason


... My other computer is an F-14's targeting system.
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From: JASON WAGNER                           Number: 12027
  To: DON KULHA                                Date: 01/13/94  2:53a
Subj: Creative Labs                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 DK> I'd have thought we'd have heard of one. I think it more likely FLEX
 DK> is out of stock and wants to discourage you from buying elsewhere. Let
 DK> us know what you find out...

  You could very well be right.  I will call Creative Labs tomorrow, then,
  and post what I find here for you all.

  I also would think that everyone would know about a Creative Labs recall!
  It'd be in ever Multimedia-related echo on the globe! <G>

  Jason


... If Windows sucked it would be good for something.
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From: JASON WAGNER                           Number: 12028
  To: SCOTT TEED                               Date: 01/13/94  2:59a
Subj: Journeyman                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

  I am trying to run the blasted game in a WIN 3.1 environment... 640x480
  and all that good stuff... I am using an STB VESA accelerator... but keep
  getting this Grapihcs() error stuff... I keep reading about people getting
  updated drivers for thier video cards.  And I like to run my Windoze in
  1024x768x256!  I don;t wanna have to change resolutions every time I
  want to play the game!  <WHINE!>  Is this game really worth all this fuss?

  Jason

... I Just got stopped by the LAPD and boy am I beat.
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From: JASON WAGNER                           Number: 12029
  To: JEREMY ROLLINGS                          Date: 01/14/94 10:59p
Subj: Creative Labs                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 JR> Whoa! I wonder if this has anything to do with the fact that CompUSA
 JR> has been out of ALL Creative Labs 16 Multi-CD cards (both with ASP
 JR> and without) for weeks? That GUS is looking better all the time...


  Dunno, but I agree with ya!  That GUS does look (and sound... I heard
  one yesterday... SB Eat This!) like a better deal.... but then why does
  everyone keep recommending this great 'ol SB16 ASP?

  Hmph! <G>
  Jason


... There are two kinds of pedestrians: Quick and Dead!
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From: RAPHAEL VANNEY                         Number: 12030
  To: JOSE VISBAL                              Date: 01/14/94  1:29p
Subj: Cd-rom info                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Jose Visbal,  propos de CD-ROM INFO :
(Le 01-0494  23:26, crivant  All)

 JV> Or can the panasonic CR 563 or 562b can read up to 680 Megs...?

I know the 562-B can, don't know about the 563.

Sala kahle,                                       RVa


... I still believe in God, but God no longer believes in me.
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From: RAPHAEL VANNEY                         Number: 12031
  To: JASON BUFFORD                            Date: 01/14/94  1:29p
Subj: Re: cr-562                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Jason Bufford,  propos de RE: CR-562 :
(Le 01-0894  02:18, crivant  Brian Gomke)

 JB> You Can Download The CD-ROM Drivers From The IBM BBS.  Just Call IBM
 JB> And Get The #.  The Filename Is Something Like "PANCDROM.ZIP".  It
 JB> Supports Panasonic CD-ROMs Linked Through The AT-Port On A SB.

There's no IBM BBS in France... do you know of a place where I
could f'req it (anywhere) ?

Thanks,

Sala kahle,                                       RVa


... Windows not found: <C>heer <P>arty <D>ance
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From: RAPHAEL VANNEY                         Number: 12032
  To: NORM HILL                                Date: 01/14/94  1:29p
Subj: Panasonic 562/563                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Norm Hill,  propos de PANASONIC 562/563 :
(Le 01-0894  22:54, crivant  Andreas Hoffmann)

 NH> You can even use the drives in OS/2 as long as you have
 NH> the SBCD2.ADD driver date November 93 or later

Do you know of a place where I may f'req it ?

Thanks,

Sala kahle,                                       RVa


... I don't do Windows, but OS/2 does.
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From: GARY MULLETT                           Number: 12033
  To: DOMINIC LAVOIE                           Date: 01/14/94  4:46p
Subj: Hotpix Vol.3                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

DL>IS there someone who can give me is files.bbs for the CD HotPix Vol.3.
DL>I can poll to get them !!!

If you want Nix Pix HotPix Vol 3, it doesn't have files.bbs, but a
directory with all the files listings (by subdirectory).  If that is
what you want, holler back and I will figure a way to get it to you.

 * OLX 2.2 * I don't do taglines.

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From: KEVIN RICH                             Number: 12034
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/15/94  7:05a
Subj: question                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I just put a CD ROM on line for my users. I keep seeing things about a "Caddie"
can someone explain to me what this does, or it's function please.

Thanks
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From: BILL ARRINGTON                         Number: 12035
  To: DAVID SILVER                             Date: 01/15/94 12:50a
Subj: Re: Sticky Roms                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 DS> Before looking for a repair person, try using another
 DS> cassette to load with.  I
 DS> bought a package of 3 6CD cassettes (made by Pioneer) for 28
 DS> bucks.  It would probably be worth your while to borrow one
 DS> from someone else (if possible) first or just purchase a new
 DS> one and see if that doesn't fix your problem.

I actually had a couple and already had tried that out. The new cartridge with
all new CD's in it made no difference. The CD still got stuck under the reader.
I do have good news though. It was almost 1 year to the date that the 1 year
warranty expired. I did get it covered under warranty including a cross ship of
the replacement unit. The purchase was made 1-6-93 and I spoke with them on
1-5-94. Usually I am a day out of warranty rather than a day left. I now have
the new unit and it is running great. Thanks to all.

BTW. I understand there is a new driver out for it. One that allows you to use
less drive letters. Does anyone have the number of the BBS that this is
available on? Thanks.

Bill //

Sphinx XLT/v1.2 * E = mc² ± 2 dB

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From: VINCE SORENSEN                         Number: 12036
  To: DON BRADEN                               Date: 01/14/94  6:00p
Subj: CDROM DEALER                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

                   Canada's CD-ROM Source is...

                   CD-ROM WHOLESALERS OF CANADA

               6 Armstrong Bay * Regina, Sk. S4N 4G7
               306-789-4654 Voice * 306-789-8690 Fax
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From: BERTRAND GROS                          Number: 12037
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/14/94  5:11p
Subj: Night Owls 10                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I have read somewhere that the Night Owls 10 CD-ROM has a virus
on two files.
Can someone tell me what are the names of these both files ?

Thanks.
Bertrand

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From: ROBERT BRIGGS                          Number: 12038
  To: MIKE GERVASI                             Date: 01/14/94  1:32p
Subj: Cd's wanted                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 MG> Then it happened......RB        HELP  !!!

 MG> RB        Am looking to purchase the following:

 MG> RB        "Seedy-Rom Sex Pack" 6 volume set published last year

 MG>     At last check C-3 Production Systems had one left.

 MG>            1-915-944-7187 ask for Chris

 MG>                                   Mike

 MG> Mike
 MG>  * Wave Rider 1.0 [NR] *
 MG> ... UNREGISTERED EVALUATION COPY
 MG> --- Blue Wave/Maximus
 MG>  * Origin: -={ Christian Deliverance BBS,
 MG> Devonshire BERMUDA }=- (1:3658/1)
Sorry, perhaps ya got a different Robert Briggs; Haven't a clue about what this
message is about...???

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From: GRANT DEASON                           Number: 12039
  To: BO SHORT                                 Date: 01/14/94  4:23p
Subj: KQ6 Isle/Wonders                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

BS>A straight out answer on how to get whats on the other side of the boilin
  >pond would be nice.  Thanks

Try something (from the isle of Wonders) that might seem cold.

Like some ice cabbage from the garden.  :)
-=-
 * QMPro 1.51 * Do TV evangelists do more than lay people?

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 12040
  To: EDDIE APPELL                             Date: 01/15/94  6:12p
Subj: CDROM Specials                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 EA> Can you tell me what the difference is between the regular releases of
 EA> these CD's and the OEM versions?  Anything missing
 EA> that I would need or
 EA> want?

7th Guest OEM comes without the video tape with just a CDROM in a jewel case
and a booklet in the top cover.  The others would be similar.

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 12041
  To: LESLIE RHORER                            Date: 01/15/94  6:40p
Subj: Re: REAL TIME VIDEO ??                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 LR> fairly steadily around $1175, plus interface cable.
 LR>  I have seen a rumour that Pioneer is soon
 LR> releasing a single disk version of the drive, and I
 LR> believe that they already offer an 18 disk version.

The 602X double speed will be out this month to replace the slower 600A.
The 1804, which will be an 18CD quadra speed changer holds (3) 6 CD magazines.
It will be out in late February according to our distributor.
I read Pioneer is supposed to release a quadra speed single CD drive sometime
this spring.

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 12042
  To: DON GESER                                Date: 01/15/94  6:51p
Subj: Available CD's                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 DG>        Does anyone out thier know of a Christian files only CD? If so,
 DG> please respond!

We have a couple of them you might be interested in....there is the Bibles and
Religion by Chestnut for $11.95, Holy Bible and other Christian Software for
$18.95, and the Bible Library for $25.95.
Call us at 615-339-0235 if we can be of further assistance.

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 12043
  To: EDDIE APPELL                             Date: 01/15/94  7:06p
Subj: CDROM Specials                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 EA> Hi Doug,

 EA> Can you tell me what the difference is between the regular releases of

BTW...we have the Software Toolworks Grolier's v6.0 in stock for $35.95.

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 12044
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/15/94  7:15p
Subj: PreOrder NEW Shareware CD               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

PCJ is accepting PRE-ORDERS for the new ** TOP DRAWER SHAREWARE CD **
DUE DATE: Approximately 1/25/94  PRICE: $19.00  FILELIST:TOPDRW1A.ZIP
SYSOPS: Quickest/Easiest CDROM to setup on your BBS you'll ever find.
 * File stats for 1991 thru 1994 *       * Dupes with other CDROMs *
       Files   %    Apx  'K'    %            Big SKY     -   .01%
       =====  ===== ========  =====          Nightowl 10 - 12.41%
1994:    125   3.0%   33,475   5.6%          Nightowl 11 -  6.44%
1993:  3,983  96.5%  553,038  93.6%          Pier 3      - 28.50%
1992:     19   0.5%    3,908   0.7%        Dealer Inquiries Welcome.
1991:      3   0.1%      442   0.1%       ORDERS : 800-547-7817 (9-6)
       ===== ====== ======== ======     INQUIRIES: 615-339-0235 (9-9)
Total: 4,128 100.0%  590.863 100.0%  BBS HST/14.4: 615-4782890/4791047

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 12045
  To: TONY SAUNDERS                            Date: 01/11/94  3:05p
Subj: CD TITLES WANTED                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>Hi Jono,I can offer you a copy of The 7th Guest and Day of the Tentacle

 Might want to warn folks that your prices are in Australian dollars - it's NOT
obvious from your Origin line (except for that telltail Zone 3)....


 * SLMR 2.1a * So many moderators, so few bullets....

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 12046
  To: RICK BYERS                               Date: 01/11/94  3:13p
Subj: CD FORMAT                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

> JW> Also, is there such a thing as LD-ROM (LaserDisc ROM)?!?  I remember
> JW> reading something about it a looong time ago, but haven't heard
> JW> anything about it since.  Laserdiscs?  50GB per disk? <G>

>Well I have never heard of such a thing, and I have a feeling it's not
possible
>/ pratical.

 Given the increased surface area of a LaserDisc-sized optical disk (appx. 12",
actual WORKING area of at least 6 TIMES as much as a CD-ROM), I suspect that an
optical disc using a blue lazer in that size range COULD easily manage 20 Gigs
or so.

>Evev large computer companies have a limit of about 2 Gig on a disk, NCR for
>example has two (optical I think) drives, with a "jukebox", which is a disk
>changer, with a max of 140 ( I think ) disks.

 I have seen an ad somewhere for a 200 disc changer with 4 drive units in it.
 I forget what the current IBM "Mass Storage" optical jukebox is capable of
offhand....


 * SLMR 2.1a * What Were Once Vices, Are Now Habits

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 12047
  To: HUGH CRAIG                               Date: 01/11/94  3:20p
Subj: ARCHIVAL CD DEVELOPMENT                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>A HAM-Astronomy-Misc Hobbie CD could be an example. I doubt any one of these
>topics alone could fill an entire 600mb + cd with quality,reasonably up to
date
>files.

 QRZ Ham Radio manages to fill a disc with JUST Ham Radio files - and they
aren't "junk" used for padding....

 Also, you'll find that most folks do NOT like "multi-niche" products as well
as "niche but not quite full" products - too many folks that do NOT associate
any 2 particular niches, as a general rule.
 The Walnut Creek "Garbo" disc is a good example - about half full of Mac
stuff, the rest of the disc padded out with MS-DOS stuff, and the only folks
I've ever sold it to were Sysops (to date) or Mac fans that wanted EVERYTHING
available for the Mac.

>In other words use the medium to the limit. Why waste it?  Why not become well
>known for quality and quantity? Rather than the reverse?

 Quantity does NOT automatically mean quality - rather the REVERSE in many
cases.

>It would be great if archival CD's  would include 4DOS descript.ion files

 Not really - while 4DOS is a nice utility, there are VERY few folks that use
it. Windoze and/or OS/2 icons would make more sense....


 KF9FM


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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 12048
  To: CHAD REID                                Date: 01/11/94  3:23p
Subj: LOTS 'O QUESTIONS!                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>JU>        All the games I have require at least 10 Meg. on the HD.

>I thought that was the point of the CD, to get better quality while using less
>space

 A lot of games put "critical" often-accessed data on the hard drive to GREATLY
speed up the game - the fastest CD-ROM drive on the market (the Pioneer DRM-
604X) has about the same Data Transfer rate of a 1:1 MFM hard drive (SLOW by
current standards) and 8 TIMES the average access time of the "common" 28ms MFM
hard drive.


 * SLMR 2.1a * Written by my evil twin, Bob&Tom....

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 12049
  To: NANCY DAVIN                              Date: 01/13/94  1:59p
Subj: ENCYCLOPEDIA                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>About a month ago when I started looking at encylcopedias on CD, I was
strongly
>advised to stay away from World Book.  I was shocked!  World Book is by far
the
>best encyclopedia in print as far as I'm concerned.

 Britannica is overall much better, but World Book was OK - I used both as a
kid.

>Since then, I've been reading this echo and find that the most respected
>encyclopedias on CD are Encarta and Grolier's.

 Encarta is the prettiest, Grolier's is the "most respected" based on factual
content.


 * SLMR 2.1a * You're not a REAL person 'till a Cat ignores you....

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 12050
  To: AL BRATLIE                               Date: 01/13/94  2:13p
Subj: ADULT CD'S                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

> I saw something about Huster and Penthouse, and others
> getting into the Adult CD market.

 "Penthouse Interactive" has been out for a few months now - I'm planning to
get a copy for myself, but I doubt that I'll carry it due to the potential
legal hassles where I live/work.

 I'm still waiting for the long-rumoured Playboy CD project(s) to show up....


 * SLMR 2.1a * ...the Song is over. Thought I'd something more to say...

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 12051
  To: JAMES SUMMERS                            Date: 01/13/94  2:14p
Subj: SMARTDRV AND CD                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>  I have but one question.  Can DOS Smartdrv Cache a CD-rOm?

 Yes, as of the SmartDrive included in MS-DOS 6.2 - but that version appears to
be BUGGY....


 * SLMR 2.1a * Don't look at me, I was hired for my brains.

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 12052
  To: BOB BREED                                Date: 01/13/94  2:20p
Subj: KODAK PHOTOCD                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>    I also have another concern -- how long is the CD disk going  to last?

 I still have my original Audio CD - which is just shy of 11 years old.
 A CD-ROM should last JUST as long as a "normal" CD (likely won't last as long
as the Mobile Fidelity "gold" CDs, though)....



 Basic problem is that Aluminum oxidises, and the plastic a CD is made out of
(and the sealant used) isn't quite 100% impermiable to oxigen (very CLOSE,
though)....


 * SLMR 2.1a * It's sunning cats and dogs.

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 12053
  To: LAWRENCE MINTZ                           Date: 01/13/94  4:50p
Subj: ADVICE, PLEASE...                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>Twenty years ago, computers were not consumer products. Twelve years
>ago, IBM introduced the first PC with a whopping 64k of RAM and an Intel 8088
>microprocessor.

 IBM introduced THEIR first PC at that time - other Personal Computers long
predate the IBM PC, especially including the Apple II and Tandy TRS-80 models
I/III/IV and Commodore PET series.


 * SLMR 2.1a * This Tagline Space For Rent, Call 1-317-555-1212

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 12054
  To: JASON WAGNER                             Date: 01/13/94  4:53p
Subj: CD FORMAT                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>   But what individual could possibly make use of 280GB of data storage?

 10 years ago, a 10 MEG hard drive was considered "huge" - today, it's
considered too small to be usable.

 10 years from now, a lot of folks are likely to have 280 Gigs of storage on
their "personal" machines....


 * SLMR 2.1a * 4 a burnin' and 4 a turnin' and soup's on in the kettle.

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 12055
  To: WEE YUNG                                 Date: 01/13/94  4:54p
Subj: CDROM \ SOUND KIT                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>GP>I am going to purchase both a sound card and a CD-Rom drive and am
>GP>considering a kit.  One of my primary concerns is the speed of the

>If you want the fastest on market then get the SB16 SCSI and the NEC 3Xi

 #2 at best to the Pioneer DRM-604x, though MUCH less expen$ive....


 * SLMR 2.1a * A Berzerker Death Lord/High Priest? I goose him!

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 12056
  To: GIULIANO MACIOCCI JR                     Date: 01/13/94  4:55p
Subj: 7TH GUEST & SVGA QUES                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>DO NOT BUT A TRIDENT!! I have one, the 8900C, and it's painfully slow at
>hi-res.

 Debatable - my 8900 has proven QUITE fast with everything I've thrown at it.

 Not the fastest on the market, granted....


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From: PETER SMINK                            Number: 12057
  To: LESLIE RHORER                            Date: 01/13/94  8:17p
Subj: Mitshumi Dual & sound                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Leslie,

PS>> such a cd-rom that fits to my sb-pro? The dualspeed
PS>> matsushita player works rather well (purchased recently).
LR> Well, there are a number of real reasons why one might not wish to
LR> do so, especially if running OS/2.

What is the problem with os/2 than? Can't find any at the moment (using it also
with os/2, sometimes).

Regards,
Peter Smink

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From: WILLIAM BEBOUT                         Number: 12058
  To: SCOTT GILLIES                            Date: 01/15/94 12:56p
Subj: Dracula Unleashed Clickin               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

SG>*@SUBJECT:Dracula Unleashed Clicking...                               N
  >Well, this is the second game that has caused me problems. Haven't gone
  >to Viacom with this yet, so I thought I'd ask around... the video clips
  >on Dracula Unleashed cause an irritating clicking noise. I had the same
  >thing happen when I run 7th Guest from DOS.... solved it by running T7G
  >from windows.... This is not an option with Dracula. Any suggestions?
  >I've got a 486-66 with a Creative SB-16 and their newer douplespin CD
  >drive and a Cirrus Logic 542X (or whatever) series VESA video card with
  >2 megs of video memory. Any suggestions would be helpful.

Have you tried moving your IRQ address on your Sound card?

Doc
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From: MICHAEL CARY                           Number: 12059
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 01/15/94  6:57a
Subj: !free Cd catalog!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> *********** FREE HUGE CD-ROM DISC & accessories CATALOG!*************
-> For the largest selection & lowest prices, get our NEW catalog...
-> If you'd like a printed copy, send your mailing information to us.
-> CATALOG FREQ: cdlist.zip (over 1,100 cd-rom disc titles available)44k
-> DESCRIPT FREQ: descript.zip   (about 800 cd-rom disc descriptions)70k
->         Internet: [e-mail]
->     FidoNet: 1:157/479 - RBBSNet 8:965/13 - KesherNet 18:711/176
-> Joe Rinehart / config.sys, Inc.    Voice: [phone]  -  24 hours
-> P.O. Box 27                        Data/Fax: [phone]
-> Kent, Ohio 44240-0001              >>>INTERNATIONAL ORDERS WELCOME<<<
->
-> --- MsgToss 2.0c
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->
->
->
->
->Hello Joe, I would like one of your CD catalogs:

Send the Catalog to

Neoworks
ATT Michael Cary
P.O. Box 1257
National City, CA
               91950

thanks you.


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From: GARY COLMAN                            Number: 12060
  To: ALL DEALERS                              Date: 01/11/94  7:38p
Subj: Best bundle deal                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi All

I would like to please know what the best bundle deal is for:

Pier 3 or NightOwl 10.1
Hacker Chronicles
Linux

Also - is it possible to access the Linux CD from within Linux?
i.e. I install Linux onto a 40MB Hard Drive, and can run the rest
(X-Windows, C compiler, etc) off the CD (I have a Pana 562b)

Also, I have someone in USA who would be willing to pay in $$ and
mail it to me.  Please quote for shipping to Washington
(state I think - wherever World Bank is.. ;-) )

Cheers
  Gary

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From: STEAN SNYMAN                           Number: 12061
  To: SCOTT HOLMES                             Date: 01/12/94  8:48a
Subj: Return to zork                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Scott!

08 Jan 94 12:04, Scott Holmes wrote to Tony Saunders:

 SH> Where did you buy it for that price? I got the fully boxed set
 SH> that included the CD in a standard CD case, a 75 page
 SH> Encyclopedia Frobozzica and a 50 page Return to Zork "The Hint
 SH> Book" (sorry no glow in the dark map). I got this at CompUSA for
 SH> $39.

I'll kill my salesman....  He sold me mine with the 30 page book, and only 2
pages of the encyclopedia!  He told me its the commercial version, but it says
BONUS PACK/NOT FOR RESALE on the book...  How low can you get!

Adios
Stean

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From: STEAN SNYMAN                           Number: 12062
  To: JOHN ULLMER                              Date: 01/13/94  9:12a
Subj: The 7th Guest                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello John!

08 Jan 94 20:43, John Ullmer wrote to Chipper Wilson:

 JU> Wait till you get to the "queen" puzzle, and the "knight" puzzle.
 JU> Whoever designed the game, watch the nerd on the video that came with
 JU> the game, had a ONE track mind when it came to game challenges.  He
 JU> likes chess, and he thinks everyone is supposed to learn it in order
 JU> to play his silly game.

The Knights I finished in 5 minutes..  Whats your problem?..  Also, the Quens
took me almost just as much..  The bishops are the most difficult...

Adios
Stean

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From: ONNO VRIJBURG                          Number: 12063
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 01/13/94  6:30p
Subj: Cd-rom catalog available                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi there Jim,

Could you send me a CD Catalog please.

My address :

   ATT: Onno Vrijburg
   P.O. Box 7932
   Newton Park
   Port Elizabeth
   RSA
   6055

Thank you in advance...


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From: TOBIAS KARLSSON                        Number: 12064
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/04/94 10:21p
Subj: CDR-74                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi there

Just a simple question probably, does the original CDR-74 support Photo CD and
multisession Photo CD or is it only the CDR 74-1? In that case, are there a
bios upgrade to make it multisession avare.


Reg.
Tobbe


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From: JIM RICHARDS                           Number: 12065
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/14/94 11:05a
Subj: What's wrong with echo                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

What is wrong with this echo. On S&G BBS most messages are
repeated multi times and many have the header but no text
in the body.
Are others having the same problems?

Regards: jr

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From: HAYDEN BRADSHAW                        Number: 12066
  To: STEVE FAIRBAIRN                          Date: 01/15/94  9:16p
Subj: SHAREWARE CDROMS                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

          Steve Fairbairn wrote *
 *********************************
***Can anyone recommend good OS/2 or Macintosh shareware CDROMs suitable for
***posting on a BBS?
 *********************************

Hi, Steve:

If you'd like info, Id like to mail you our catalogue. Please post your
mailing address.

Thanks.

Hayden Bradshaw
HRB Computer Services
14 Hollis Crescent,
Holland Landing, Ontario
Canada L9N 1E7
[phone]
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From: HAYDEN BRADSHAW                        Number: 12067
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/15/94  9:47p
Subj: Canadian CD Catalogue                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Thank you.  Your response has been overwhelming regarding our price
list!  As you know our listing is available on Internet via zipped file
or by ground mail on floppy.  If you have placed your request and still
have not received it, it's due to the fact that we've been working on an
"Electronic Catalogue" version.  (There's that crazy Canadian spelling
again, eh?) This incorporates a proprietary cataloging program which
will allow you to not only get a full description of each of our 1000
CD-ROM titles, but will also permit you to order directly from the
program via mail or modem.  It should be completed by the end of next
week!  Your requests will be filled immediately, so keep smiling!

If you would like a copy of our "Electronic Catalogue" please feel free
to request it here, or by phone or fax at [phone].

Thanks again!

Hayden Bradshaw
HRB Computer Services
14 Hollis Crescent
Holland Landing, Ontario
Canada L9N 1E7
[phone]
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From: SAM FIGUEROA                           Number: 12068
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 01/15/94 11:47a
Subj: Free Cd Rom List                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

JJ>        Hello Joe
JJ>        Please Send Me A Free Cd Catelog List Of Cd's

JJ>        Jan Jacobsen
JJ>        10 pioneer ave
JJ>        O'Sullivan Beach 5166
JJ>        South Australia.

JJ>... Catch the Blue Wave!
JJ>--- Blue Wave/Opus v2.12 [NR]
JJ> * Origin: Tan80 BBS#2,Morphett Vale S.A. (3:800/822.0)

Hello Joe,
        Please send me a catalog at:
        Sam Figueroa
        Sam's Software
        Rt 2 Box 2453-A
        Manchester, Tn 37355
                                        Thanks

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From: SAM FIGUEROA                           Number: 12069
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 01/15/94 11:49a
Subj: Re: NEW CD'S                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

AG>Boris -

AG>   BO> OS/2 Companion      470+ megs - 2,400+ files - BBS Ready
AG>   BO>                     Loaded with graphics, multimedia,
AG>   BO>                     networking, fonts and more!

AG>Is this the 11/93 release from Tropical Publishing?

AG>What percentage of this disc is for OS/2 version 1.x ???

AG>I was very disappointed with the Hobbes disc because of the
AG>amount of out-dated files, whereas I'm told the OS/2 Box
AG>(Damar) is all 2.x stuff.

AG>How do these three discs compare?

AG>   BO> Price - $16.00 ec + Free Diagnostic cd offer

AG>Good price!  Is the freebie the Profit Press disc, or something newer?

AG>                                                  - Arnie :+}

AG>--- GoldED 2.40
AG> * Origin: The Magnificent MIDI Machine (1:141/950.1)
 Boris,
        I was wondering if you could give me some specs and a price on
        Night Owl 11, I can get it for $29, if ya can beat it then I
        will order from ya, the MarketPlace is selling it for $39.00 and
        a $10.00 coupon came with it, so hence $29.00! Let me know when
        ya can get me a price!
                        Thanks,
                                Sam Figueroa
                                Sam's Software

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From: SCOTT SURBROOK                         Number: 12070
  To: BRYAN ANSLOW                             Date: 01/14/94 11:23p
Subj: Re: Windows and PC's Cr*p               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Bryan,

Sorry to insert my nose, but you might want to wait until IBM releases
the OS/2 2.11 Service pack.  This release will be faster, more robust,
have MUCH better device support out of the box, and best of all use
4MB _LESS_ disk space than it currently does.

IBM is supposed to start beta testing OS/2 2.2 soon.  They are still
setting up the features list, so it is hard to tell what will be
included, though some people are speculating it will include Plug-N-
Play and Peer-to-Peer services.  OS/2 2.2 is supposed to have a 1st
half 1994 release date.

By the end of 1994 IBM has said it will probably release Workplace OS
and/or maybe OS/2 2.3 (if they don't decide to combine the features of
the two.

You might want to wander over to the OS/2 echo and check out what is
going on or try the IBM OS/2 national support center BBS (NSCBBS).

TTYL,

Scott Surbrook

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From: DOUG PROWSE                            Number: 12071
  To: DON KULHA                                Date: 01/13/94 10:32p
Subj: WANTED CD DRIVER                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Thanks for the info I will gave them a call.
THANKS ageen DOUG

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From: PETER PRASAD                           Number: 12072
  To: ALEX MOTTRAM                             Date: 01/14/94 10:06p
Subj: Re: Fusion 16/Multi CD                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Alex Mottram to All <=-

 AM> Is anyone else out there running the MediaVision Fusion 16 CDROM
 AM> package?
 AM> I'm wondering if I can daisy chain another drive (or 3) off the ?SCSI?
 AM> connector on the ?PAS16? that came with it.
 AM>
 AM> The reason I'm asking is that the manuals that come with it are
 AM> virtuall NO HELP at all as their tech section consists of "Put install
 AM> disk in Drive A: -- Type INSTALL."  Also, I saw it advertised somewhere
 AM> in computer shopper that said "Proprietary 16bit Sound Card" in the
 AM> description.  Can someone please enlighten me?
 AM>
 AM> For what it's worth, the CDROM drive that came with it (Sony CDU-31A)
 AM> has a "3M J3594-5002 or equivalent" Interface connector. ?
 AM>
 AM> I guess it's time to break down and call mediavision <grin>..
 AM>
        The PAS16 has a standard SCSI controller interface on it, yes
        you will be able to daisy chain the drives as long as they are SCSI
units.

        Peter..........L8tr

... Catch the Blue Wave!
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From: TONY DAVIS                             Number: 12073
  To: DAVID SILVER                             Date: 01/15/93  8:15p
Subj: OBSCENE CD-ROMS                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I sure wish the 'TONY DAVIS' from Oklahoma with the porn problem would identify
himself as 'TD from OK' or something like that. I also ran a BBS but
I had sense enough to maintain a CLEAN board. If he gets burned for
discrediting BBS'ing well - good. Light a match for me.

Tony Davis (From Virginia)



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From: WILLIAM ROUNTREE                       Number: 12074
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/15/94 12:07p
Subj: Night Owl CD's BBS                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I am trying to get a BBS number for the group that publishes the Night Owl CDs.
Anyone have it?
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From: DON ELROD                              Number: 12075
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 01/10/94  9:02p
Subj: !free Cd catalog!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Please send a copy to me at :

Don Elrod
6900 Buncombe Rd. Lot 10
Shreveport, La 71129

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From: DON BRADEN                             Number: 12076
  To: MIKE GERVASI                             Date: 01/15/94 12:41p
Subj: Cdrom dealer                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Mike thank you very much for the phone number of the dealer. I appreciate
your kind effort.
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From: GLENN GARMAN                           Number: 12077
  To: WARREN BIRD                              Date: 01/14/94 11:14a
Subj: Panasonic drive                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

WB>Hi All...

WB>I have a panasonic CR-563-B and i would like to know the specs on it
WB>and would also like to know what Card i can run it off... I have
WB>a SOUND VISION 16 AISP but it doesnt run on it... i would also
WB>like to know which driver software would be best for it aswell!

6.1 PERFORMANCE

Disc diameter                              12cm, 8cm Disc speed
  (NV mode)*1                              200~530rpm (CLV)
  (DV mode)*2                              400~1060rpm (CLV) Data capacity
                        540MBytes typical (12cm Disc)
                                           180MBytes typical (8cm Disc) Data
transfer Rate
  Sequential (NV mode)                     150kBytes/s (Mode 1)
  Sequential (DV mode)                     300kBytes/s (Mode 1)
  From buffer                              2.3MBytes/s Access time
  Random access time     *3 (NV mode)      380ms typical
  Random access time        (DV mode)      320ms typical
  Fullstroke access time *4 (NV mode)      660ms typical
  Fullstroke access time    (DV mode)      640ms typical Buffer Size
                    64kBytes

MTBF                                       25000POH

Notes:

 *1 NV mode:                Normal Velocity mode
 *2 DV mode:                Double Velocity mode
 *3 Random access time:     Average of Data read over the whole area
                            from 00 min. 02 sec. 00 block to 59 min. 58
                            sec. 74 block more than 2000 times including
                            latency and layered error correction time.
 *4 Fullstroke access time: From 00 min. 02 sec. 00 block to 59 min. 58
                            sec. 74 block including latency and layered
                            error correction time.

6.2 ERROR RATES
.Soft read errors                          Less than 10-9 .Hard read errors
                     Less than 10-12

6.3 AUDIO PERFORMANCE
Number of channels                         2 Frequency response
        100Hz~20kHZ (Head phone)
                                           20Hz~20kHZ (Line out) SN Ratio
                            More than 80dB
Distortion                                 Less than 0.2% (1 kHz) Output level
.Line - out                                0.80Vrms .Head phone
               0.60Vrms

6.4 GENERAL PERFORMANCE
Power requirement                           +5V ----1.0A
                                           +12V ----1.5A Dimensions (W X H X D)
                    146 X 41.3 X 196mm Weight
  950g

6.5 ENVIRONMENTAL CONDITION
                 Operating                 Non-operating .Temperature     5~45
C                    -20~55 C .Humidity        20~80%Rh
15~80%Rh
                 (No-condensing)           (No-condensing)

6.6 PICK UP LASER
.Type                         Semiconductor laser GaAlAs .Wave Length
       790 +/- 15nm .Divergence                   0=53.3 .Output power
       0.14mW

[Note:  I typed this in from the back of my owners manual.  Some of the symbols
are impossible to reproduce in this format, so I did the best I could.  If you
know what the measurement should be, you can probably extrapoate what I meant.]

I'm running mine on a Sound FX 16-bit sound card from Reveal, which I
understand is an Aztec card.  I think the Soundblaster series will also handle
them.

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From: HOWARD RICE                            Number: 12078
  To: BRYAN BURTON                             Date: 01/13/94  4:00p
Subj: Panisonic 563                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

BB|I have a Panisonic 563x CD, I can't get the headphone jack or the front
  |volume control to work. :(  If anyone has help I will greatly appreciate
  |it. Thanks in advance!
  |                                 Bryan


It only works with Audio cd disks.
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From: HOWARD RICE                            Number: 12079
  To: MIKE LUTES                               Date: 01/13/94  4:17p
Subj: CD on a 286                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

ML|Any way at all to run a CD on a 286 machine?  Any info appreciated.
  | ■ SLMR 2.0 ■ All hope abandon, ye who enter messages here.
  | - JetMail v1.14 - Unregistered QWK Mail Door for Spitfire
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I had a client bring in a HeadStart 8088 with a cd-rom player in it.
Worked pretty nicely.
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From: HOWARD RICE                            Number: 12080
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 01/13/94 11:28p
Subj: !free Cd Catalog!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

PB|On 01-02-94, Joe Rinehart said to All!

PB|JR>********* FREE HUGE CD-ROM DISC & accessories CATALOG!**********
  |JR>For the largest selection & lowest prices, get our NEW catalog...
  |JR>If you'd like a printed copy, send your mailing information to us.


Howard Rice 708-433-0074
CompUmedia
1805 St.Johns Ave. Highland Park, IL. 60035

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From: TERRY GREENMAN                         Number: 12081
  To: KEVIN O'BUCKLEY                          Date: 01/13/94  4:32p
Subj: Re: CHOICES!!!                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Kevin O'buckley to All <=-

 KO> I'm having a real problem choosing between two software packages:
 KO> Should I buy The Seventh Guest or Return to Zork?
 KO> They both look excellent, and cost the same for me.
 KO> If anyone has experience with both games,
 KO> please let me know which you prefer...

Buy them both, and if you don't like one or the other, then you can sell
them/swap them for something else.


... I am always lookin' for bargains.
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From: ROSS FOCKE                             Number: 12082
  To: SCOTT TEED                               Date: 01/14/94  6:59a
Subj: Re: Journeyman                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

ST> If anyone reads this and knows how to get The Journeyman Project to wo
ST> Win-os2 session then please let me know.
_______________________________________________________________________
Scott,  this probably won't help but it might help to eliminate some
things.  I run straight Windows 3.11 that has 32bit data access and a
32bit cache and had no trouble what so ever loading and running The
Journeyman.  Not much help but there might be a hassle with the OS2
base.  Might have to run in Windows Extended mode and if I remember
correctly Windows only runs in Standard mode in OS2. Am I correct in
this?  I have run into a few programs that need to be in Extended mode
before and have a feeling that this is the trouble.

Good luck, it is a great game.                       Ross Focke


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From: KEVIN SINCLAIR                         Number: 12083
  To: TERRY GREENMAN                           Date: 01/14/94 11:48p
Subj: Re: Sierra Cdrom                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

DA> I would be very happy if someone knows how to get Mixed Up Mother
DA> Goose working on a 486.

David:

Try the Windows generic vga driver in 640 x 480 screen resolution. It
would not work with my Genoa 1mb video card (local bus) on a 486. So,
I returned it and was told to use the generic driver.

It was a freebie with the purchase of my CD Rom drive and now collects
dust. My kids have enough software <grin>. It did work though.

Kevin
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From: KEVIN SINCLAIR                         Number: 12084
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/14/94 11:48p
Subj: Carmen Sandiego                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Advice to other parents:

If you think that you would like the "Where in the World is Carmen
Sandiego" series then buy the "Deluxe" version on CD.

I've got three versions (floppy disks) but the kids prefer "Where
in the World..." the best. This is for kids ages 3 to 6.

I'm surprised that "Power Rangers" is not on CD. <grin>

Kevin
---
 ■ OLX 1.51 ■ When the phone don't ring honey, you'll know it's me.


--- GEcho 1.01+
 * Origin: Camarillo File Exchange [phone]  (1:206/2514)
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From: KEVIN SINCLAIR                         Number: 12085
  To: JASON WILLIAMS                           Date: 01/14/94 11:48p
Subj: Pas 16                                  Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No

JW> I just helped a friend set up his PAS-16 - and all of the setup
JW> utilities are MUCH more complicated than on my GUS...

JW> couldn't get it to work for the life of me with epic pinball & a few
JW> others...

JW> After what I'd read, I thought the pas's setup would be much simpler &
JW> better than the GUS's - but if anyone tells you that, it's crap...

Jason:

I had a problem with the Trantor Installation program that came with
the PAS 16 in that it wrote an incorrect path to the mscdex file in my
autoexec.bat file.

It wrote the path to my drive B (floppy) instead of drive C. I corrected
that and PAS 16 works great including the sound in Epic's Pinball. The
vendor informed me that the Trantor install program does that on local
bus machines--after I called and complained to him.

Autoexec-------------------------------------------------------

set blaster=A220 D1 I5 T3
C:\DOS\mscdex.exe /d:mvcd001 /m:10 /v
C:\DOS\SMARTDRV.EXE C D E 2048 2048

Config---------------------------------------------------------

rem added ( 9/14/93) by Media Vision Installation
DEVICE=c:\qemm\loadhi.sys /r:2 /size=17136 c:\proaudio\mvsound.sys d:3 q:7 s:1,

rem added ( 9/14/93) by Media Vision Installation
DEVICE=c:\qemm\loadhi.sys /r:2 /size=34352 c:\proaudio\tslcdr.sys /d:mvcd001 /w

---------------------------------------------------------------

The ends of two of the above lines are off-screen.

Also, the DOS 6 mscdex file is newer than the one in the Trantor program
so I'm using that one.

Give it another try. I'm very pleased with this sound card.

Kevin
---
 ■ OLX 1.51 ■ The beatings will continue until morale improves.

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From: HENRY HACHE                            Number: 12086
  To: RAY MATTHEWS                             Date: 01/15/94  2:26p
Subj: t7G help needed (Again :)               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

RM>* in a message to All <27 Dec 93 00:12> Stean Snyman wrote:

RM> SS> Hello All!

RM> SS> Now i'm stuck at the puzzle with the
RM> SS> blocks that falls down (Its as easy as one
RM> SS> two three)..  (See if you can get from a to b, by using only what
RM> SS> you see, Or whatever)...  I can't go back to get a hint (The door
RM> SS> is nailed shut), and I can't seem to grasp the idea after it...
RM> SS> (PLEASE don't tell me how to do everything, else the challenge is lost

RM> SS> Thanks
RM> SS> Stean

RM>   Here's a hint. Every third block you step on must be purple, and the las
RM>block you step on at the finish must also be the third block.

If you look closely, you can also see numbers on the blocks.

Now for my question:  I've done all the puzZles.  re-visited all the
rooms, now what?  I can't find anymore rooms or puzzles.  And I have
really looked!

 ■ QMPro 1.02 00-0000 ■ MSI - Redefining Telecommunications in '93
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From: STANLEY SHEFF                          Number: 12087
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/15/94  7:50p
Subj: Rombrain Update                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Now available from The Brainex System:
1:102/737 or  1:102/739

ROMBRAIN  - A stand alone CDROM file door.  If you use a CDROM, you
1/14/94     need this door!  Keeps your cdrom file base separate from
            your BBS's file base. Features file search, read/transfer
            from .ZIP files, multi-node, multi-CD access.
            Can copy cdrom files to HD for CD Changers.

REQUEST   - Used with Rombrain.  This program will automatically
1/9/94      copy offline file requests generated by RomBrain.
            The sysop just inserts the CD, and request copies
            files to a separate user directory on the hard drive.
            Users can download their files using the Request door.

BRAINEX   - Required to run Brainex Doors. Fast and easy way to setup
DOOR        and modify all Brainex Doors! Includes 1 year BBS support.
MANAGER
12/31/93


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From: ROBERT BRIGGS                          Number: 12088
  To: CHRIS ANSELL                             Date: 01/15/94 11:35p
Subj: Write to cdrom                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

CA>Hi everyone, i was just wandering if ANYONE knew if a date has been
CA>mentioned when cd roms will become writable, ie transfer files
CA>from hard disk onto the cd. I know at the moment this technology

This technology is quite available.  Current cost for a CD mastering system is
about $4,500.

===Bob Briggs


 * SLMR 2.1a * Windows 3.0:  The best $89 solitaire game you can buy.


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From: JOHN THOMPSON                          Number: 12089
  To: RALPH LINDEMANN                          Date: 01/13/94 12:13p
Subj: Caches                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

RL>  how come everybody is talking about the new DOS 6.2 smartdrive when it
RL>  comes down to caching your CD ROM and Harddisk?
RL>
RL>  Isn't there anything a little more advanced and of course faster ?

Why?  What's wrong with SMARTDRV?  It does a decent job as far as I'm
concerned, and the price was right.

 * KingQWK 1.05 # 39 * Heck is reserved for those who don't believe in Gosh.

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From: MIKE LEE                               Number: 12090
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 01/14/94 10:39p
Subj: Re: !free Cd catalog!                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 <==-== Overheard Joe Rinehart chatting with All ==-==>
 JR> *********** FREE HUGE CD-ROM DISC & accessories CATALOG!*************
 JR> For the largest selection & lowest prices, get our NEW catalog...
 JR> If you'd like a printed copy, send your mailing information to us.
 JR> CATALOG FREQ: cdlist.zip (over 1,100 cd-rom disc titles available)44k
 JR> DESCRIPT FREQ: descript.zip   (about 800 cd-rom disc descriptions)70k

Hi...could ya send me one of those catalogs please?  Thanx.

        11411 Northview Cres.
        Delta, BC
        V4E 2P4


... We now return to our scheduled messaging...
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From: MIKE LEE                               Number: 12091
  To: CHIP SLATE                               Date: 01/14/94 10:46p
Subj: Re: The 7th Guest.                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 <==-== Overheard Chip Slate chatting with Norman Watson ==-==>
 CS> Well, I've defeated the game many times and the only thing i can
 CS> figure out is that the cinema scenes(with actors)are quite out of sync.
 CS> But hey whats that to defeating the game..Hope this helps..
 CS> If you need any clues..Let me Know....C-Ya,Chip Slate

You've finished the game?  Good...perhaps you can give me a hand...I've
done all the puzzles that seems to be available to me...except for one...
the one in the shed just outside the kitchen...for some reason, I can't
find a path to that door...the kitchen door is still locked, but I've
finished all the other puzzles...there's nothing else I can do...

BTW:  It says in the rule book that if you use the 3rd hint, there's a
"punishment" or something...what exactly is that punishment?  Just not
being able to see the puzzle being solved?  Or would it be something like
locking the door to that last puzzle?  Cuz my dad is also playing this game
but keeps using those hints...

So if you could lend me any assistance, it would MOST appreciated!!!


... We now return to our scheduled messaging...
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From: DANIEL STUDER                          Number: 12092
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 01/13/94  4:33p
Subj: CDROM Specials                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hallo Doug!

 DC> Return to Zork (OEM)....29.95

What's OEM on this game? What's missing?

cu Danny

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From: VIC HLUSHAK                            Number: 12093
  To: CHIP SLATE                               Date: 01/14/94  9:45a
Subj: The 7th Guest                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On (10 Jan 94) Chip Slate wrote to Chipper Wilson...

 CS>  -=> Quoting Chipper Wilson to Anyone <=-
 CS>
 CS>  CW> I may be just plain stupid, but the puzzle with the bishops has
 CS>  CW> got me stumped.  What's the objective???

If you are talking about the puzzle near the rug then you have to swap the
black
bishops with the white ones, ie move the black to where the white ones are.

TTYL

Vic

--- PPoint 1.74
 * Origin: A Professional Point System (1:3402/22.4)
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From: CHRIS KUEFLER                          Number: 12094
  To: CHRIS CHASE                              Date: 01/15/94 12:32a
Subj: LOOKING FOR AN OLD CD-ROM               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 CC> Hello I'm looking for an old (Cheaper Price range) CD Rom for my board
 CC> if anyone has any ideas or something for sale leave me some mail!

I have 3 older Hitachi's that are daisy-chaned together using 1 card. 150 k/sec
transfer time, <600ms seek time (actually quite speedy) and they use only 1
card. I have them online now, and am willing to let them go if the price is
right. Add an instant 2 Gigabytes to your BBS.

CJK

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From: DAVE WONG                              Number: 12095
  To: CHRIS SNYDER                             Date: 01/13/94  4:06p
Subj: Cd-Rom Disk For Sale                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

ok, thanks for the reply anyway, By the way the Willy Beamish is brand new, I
just bought a bunch of them along with the other disks. Bye!!


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From: JOSE VISBAL                            Number: 12096
  To: ROBERT BRITZ                             Date: 01/13/94 10:42p
Subj: Re: StarWars Rebel Assault              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Robert Britz to Jose Visbal <=-


 RB> Jose, if he doesn't, I'll sell you mine for $35. Reply back here or
 RB> give me a ring at 206-256-4987 after 4:00pm anytime.
 RB> -!- Maximus/2 2.01wb
 RB>  ! Origin: Taboo (1:105/105)

I`ll be out tomorrow will call you sat. or if i get in early
tomorrow I`ll call you....




... Catch the Blue Wave!
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From: JOSE VISBAL                            Number: 12097
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/13/94 11:09p
Subj: Day of the Tentacle                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Just want to ask anyone if they would like to sell their copy of
Day of the Tentacle....? For CD-rom.
For a reasonable price....
leave me a message here and how much you can let it go for..!!
thanks later....

... ARRRRRGGGHHH!!!! ... Tension breaker, had to be done.
--- Blue Wave/RA v2.12 [NR]
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From: ROY FUNG                               Number: 12098
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/14/94 10:24a
Subj: Reveal CDRom                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Anyone with the Reveal CDRom able to load MSCDEX high?

I would appreciate hearing from you, what switches you used, etc.
Thanks.


... "I'd love to help you out.  Which way did you come in?"  -- Groucho
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From: WILLIAM SCHNEIDER, JR.                 Number: 12099
  To: KAY MONTES                               Date: 01/14/94 11:24a
Subj: CD-ROM DRIVE AND WINDOWS                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No


KM>Sorry, I'm kind of new to this, but I realize now I should have
KM>included more information.  We did finally get the problem solved,
KM>but thanks for responding.

Sure! Glad you got things working. Whenever I have problems like this,
my friend reminds me I shoulda bought a Mac.

-William


* CmpQwk #UNREG* UNREGISTERED EVALUATION COPY


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From: GEORGE BARONE                          Number: 12100
  To: JOHN ULLMER                              Date: 01/15/94 11:23p
Subj: Re: Triple Speed Drive                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 > -=> Quoting Jeremy Rollings to George Barone <=-

 > GB>Could anyone recommend a good triple speed drive, I am looking for  s
 > GB>that will not go out of date within 2 years like every  other piece o
 > GB>that I buy. Thanks

 > JR> Two years? Man, that's not bad at all! :) :)
 > JR> I'm lucky if the "state of the art" hardware I buy is still
 > JR> SUPPORTED two years later!!!

 > JR> Jeremy in Chicago.


 >         Jeremy is 100% right, proving that living in Chicago
 > isn't
 >         necessarily hazardous to your thinking.  (Don't get
 > mad, I
 >         was born in Chicago.)

 >         Unless there's a secret I haven't heard yet, NEC is
 > the only
 >         choice you have if you're looking for 3X drive.
 > Undoubtedly
 >         other manufacturers will be coming up with triple
 > spins pretty
 >         quick.



 >
 > ... RAM: Rarely adequate memory.
 > ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12

 > --- Maximus/2 2.01wb
 >  * Origin: Thunderbird (1:387/603)
thanks for the reply, now I've just read about a quad speed drive.....

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From: KEVIN GERMAN                           Number: 12101
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 01/15/94  1:39p
Subj: !free cd catalog!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

JR>*********** FREE HUGE CD-ROM DISC & accessories CATALOG!*************

One here also, please...

        Kevin German
        733 Sonora Ave.
        Manteca, CA  95337

                        Thanks!
===
 * OLX 2.2 * hAS ANYONE SEEN MY cAPSLOCK KEY?


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From: ED DUCHEK                              Number: 12102
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/14/94  9:06p
Subj: Aldus PhotoStyler for win 2.0           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I have Aldus PhotoStyler for windows version 2.0.... the latest... on CD Rom.
This is the SE version
Its complete, never registered.

$75 takes this great program! + P&H



Ed Duchek
[phone]

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From: STYLIANOS SIDERIS                      Number: 12103
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/15/94  9:12a
Subj: Soundblaster 16 ASP and Chinon 535 internal  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I am thinking of purchasing the Chinon 535 Internal CD Drive (double speed) and
a Soundblaster 16 ASP (SCSI-2).  Is there anybody out there that has worked
with these two products and has any advice for me?  Can you recommend anything
else? I am looking on spending up to $600 for a combination of CD drive and
sound card.  Also would I run into problems if I have only a VGA card with 256k
and 16 color capability on my compurer If i buy one of the CD drives?  Thank
you for your time.
o

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From: DON GESER                              Number: 12104
  To: STEVE PRATT                              Date: 01/15/94  6:57p
Subj: Available cd's                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

          Steve Pratt wrote v
 +===============================+
|>       Does anyone out thier know of a Christian files only CD? If so,
|>please respond!
|
|    I have purchased two:  Bibles & Religion - Chestnut CD-ROM that has
|commentaries, concordances, Old & New testaments, study guides, ect. all
|shareware.
|
|        AND - The Holy Bible - Advantage Plus Dist. Inc. - Two Bible study
|programs - Online Bible and Seedmaster (Windows and/or Dos) KJV, ASV and
|seven other versions, Greek and Hebrew, Strongs Numbers, lexicons, and muc
|more.
|
|    As an all-around disk I would purchase Bibles and Religion.
|
|    I'll sell the Holy Bible CD for $15 plus S&H if you are interested.
 +===============================+

        I must apologize because I obviously didn't make myself clear. I am
 very interested in a CD disk that contains Christian shareware files for
 my BBS here in Florida. I appreciate your responce but unless these CD's
 offer considerable commentaries and study quides I'm afraid I can't use the

-=-
 + Living Waters BBS + Please don't yell at me.  I'm new at this.

 * SLMR 2.1a *

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From: JOHN BEACH                             Number: 12105
  To: RAPHAEL VANNEY                           Date: 01/16/94  2:57a
Subj: !free cd catalog!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -> !FREE CD CATALOG!

Please send a free copy of your CDRom catalog to:

   John A. Beach
   4566 Yardley Avenue North
   St. Petersburg, Fla.
   33713

Thanks in advance...


-jb

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From: MICHAEL MURPHY                         Number: 12106
  To: G CRONE                                  Date: 01/15/94  3:52p
Subj: No Audio play                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On (14 Jan 94) G Crone wrote to All...

 GC> HELP !
 GC>
 GC> Can anyone figure out why my CD-ROM will not play audio CD's.
 GC> The disc spins and the programs say music is being played, but no
 GC> sound.
 GC>
 GC> Used with game or encyclopedia type of media (data) everything works
 GC> fine. Music, videos, etc all play nicely.
 GC>

Your problem might be with a single wire that is not connected from your CD
to your sound card.  It's a thin wire that connects to about three pins.  On
my sound card the wire fits real loosely.  You might want to see if it needs
to be connected better.  I think that's all your problem really is (since you
sayed that any other (data) CD will work fine).
Hope this helps!
Michael

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From: CURTIS BURISCH                         Number: 12107
  To: ANDREW WAGNER                            Date: 01/14/94 12:02a
Subj:                                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

(sorry to Bob for being off-topic)

Are you out there Snowy? Reply.
BTW, this message is from Nadine.
    ([e-mail])

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From: FANIE VILJOEN                          Number: 12108
  To: RICKARD OLSSON                           Date: 01/14/94 11:28a
Subj: Jaguar/3do                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> For starters, get in touch with your local Commodore and ask about
-> the Commodore Amiga CD32. The Amiga platform has virtually defined
-> the multimedia concept since 1985 and to leave it out in a
-> feasability study

Hi Richard..

Thanx for replying.. I did look at the Amiga platform.
I know the Amiga platform very well. I have been using and programming
it for about 4 years. The problem is in the price performance aspect.
You rightly pointed out that it led the multimedia revolution since
1985. It stopped being the leader quite  a while ago tho'.
The Jaguar will be available with a Cd-ROM shortly, and for the price
one gets far better performance...

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From: GARY COLMAN                            Number: 12109
  To: TERRY BLOUNT                             Date: 01/14/94  1:44p
Subj: CREAM OF THE CROP II                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi Terry

 >  + Origin: Center  of  the  Cosmos   205-824-2611 (1:3625/441)
              Cream   of  the  Crop

Any intentional connection??

Cheers
  Gary

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From: STEAN SNYMAN                           Number: 12110
  To: RAY MATTHEWS                             Date: 01/15/94  9:27a
Subj: T7G Maze                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Ray!

11 Jan 94 18:12, Ray Matthews wrote to Stean Snyman:

 RM>     I forget now. What do you mean by 'the flippers'? Exactly
 RM> which puzzle are you talking about. (There are a lot of them with
 RM> things that flip.)

The picture of the house devided into 9 squares flipping when you press the
side of the frame..  Also, how do I get to the outside room, and the Microscope
:(((

Adios
Stean

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From: JOE RINEHART                           Number: 12111
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/15/94 11:32a
Subj: !free Cd catalog!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

*********** FREE HUGE CD-ROM DISC & accessories CATALOG!*************
For the largest selection & lowest prices, get our NEW catalog...
If you'd like a printed copy, send your mailing information to us.
CATALOG FREQ: cdlist.zip (over 1,100 cd-rom disc titles available)44k
DESCRIPT FREQ: descript.zip   (about 800 cd-rom disc descriptions)70k
        Internet: [e-mail]
    FidoNet: 1:157/479 - RBBSNet 8:965/13 - KesherNet 18:711/176
Joe Rinehart / config.sys, Inc.    Voice: [phone]  -  24 hours
P.O. Box 27                        Data/Fax: [phone]
Kent, Ohio 44240-0001              >>>INTERNATIONAL ORDERS WELCOME<<<

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From: JOE RINEHART                           Number: 12112
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/15/94 11:32a
Subj: Cd-rom Drives+                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

********* Refurbished  Hitachi Model 3600 CD-ROM DRIVES $130 *********
********* Refurbished  Hitachi Model 3500 CD-ROM DRIVES $120 *********
********* Refurbished SCSI NEC Model 36   CD-ROM DRIVES $130 *********
These units are also available needing refurbished at 50% off!
Catalog of 1,200+ CD-Titles and hardware products available-CDLIST.ZIP
           Internet: [e-mail]
      FidoNet 1:157/479 - RBBSNet 8:965/13 - KesherNet 18:711/176
Joe Rinehart / config.sys, Inc.     Voice: [phone]  -  24 hours
P.O. Box 27                         Data/Fax: [phone]
Kent, Ohio 44240-0001               >>>INTERNATIONAL ORDERS WELCOME<<<

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From: JOE RINEHART                           Number: 12113
  To: JOS CHRISPIJN                            Date: 01/15/94  1:59a
Subj: Re: Cd-rom drives+                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Jos Chrispijn to Joe Rinehart <=-

 JC> Hello Joe,

 JC> Quoting your message (05 Jan 94  03:10) to Michael Kelly :

 JR> Sorry, only the NEC modl 36 is SCSI and it is an external unit.
 JC> I sent ye a netmail about some info on this drive; could you please
 JC> sent us some more info ? What does refurbished mean ?
 JC> Also we can put your cd-rom catalogue(s) available for freq/dl on our
 JC> bbs for European continental users/sysops...

 JC> CU,
 JC> Jos Chrispijn, Sysop 2:285/402

 JC> ... Get stoned: Drink liquid cement.
 JC> -!- AllTime Office 2.0+
 JC>  ! Origin: CD-ROM,CD-I,CD-PROM,DVI... Let's Tango !!! (2:285/402)

 JC> * MMGR v3.10 * Home of config.sys - P.O.Box 27, Kent, Oh 44240
 JC> 216-296-2244

Jos,

By all means-- feel free to make our catalog available to anyone.  We would
appreciate the European exposure.

As far as the drives go, refurbished simply means that the units were
previously used, and we're cleaning and calibrating them. We offer a full
30-day warranty along with the package.

Thanks for the inquiry.  Hope to hear from you again soon!

Joe




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From: JOE RINEHART                           Number: 12114
  To: KYLE MACHULIS                            Date: 01/16/94  2:22a
Subj: Cd-LIST                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 > Just wondering, when is the CD-LIST updated? And if so, will all of us
 > who sign up get it?

    Thanks for asking.  The cdlist is updated whenever we receive new
information from our distributors, which is usually by the first week of each
month.  As we receive about 50 file requests, 50 postal service mail requests,
several new BBS users downloading cdlist.zip, and too many Internet requests
daily, it is at this time impossible for us to automaticly send an updated
monthly cdlist.zip to everyone.  Our phone bill(s) last month exceeded a
thousand dollars, so we will be asking for a sysop(s) in each country to play
as a config.sys HOST for our CDLIST.ZIP & DESCRIPT.zip distribution.  We will
then send them our files automatically upon each update.  We are also
developing an on-line config.sys door franchise program for sysops that want to
generate an extra income for their bbs.  We of course, will be updating their
lists.  Lastly, we have a config.sys non-backbone echo available by calling us
weekly, or whenever mail is waiting for us.  This echo is already set up for
automatic updates:-), also including
game reviews, comments to config.sys, orders, etc....

    Hope this helps you.


Regards,
Joe Rinehart
config.sys
P.O.Box 27
Kent, Ohio 44240-0001


Regards,
Joe Rinehart
config.sys
P.O.Box 27
Kent, Ohio 44240-0001

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From: JOE RINEHART                           Number: 12115
  To: PAT RILEY                                Date: 01/16/94  1:45a
Subj: Missed the Package                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 > Joe:
 >   Due to a family emergency, I missed picking up the QRZ CD from the
 > US Snail.  I am sending you a check that should cover your expenses and
 > the price of the CD (again via US Snail).  Sorry for the inconvenience.
    Pat,
    Thank you very much for your order.  We do understand that C.O.D.'s are
sometimes not picked up for various ligitimate reasons.  We also appreaciate
that you will still do business with us, helping us to recover the lost postage
expense of $5.40 & gain a modest profit on the title;-)  No hard feelings here
& sure hope that your family emergency is over with everything being OK.

    Best regards,


Regards,
Joe Rinehart
config.sys
P.O.Box 27
Kent, Ohio 44240-0001

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From: JOE RINEHART                           Number: 12116
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/16/94  6:07a
Subj: !discounted Fedex shippin               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

    It pleases us to announce that due to our growing shipping volume,
FedEXpress has become our preferred courier.  USPS Priority was our
preferred
method, however,  recent performance such as week-long delays and
damaged
jewel cases made us look elsewhere. We contacted all the other couriers
to
see who would offer our customers the best deal.  FedEX won the bid by
allowing us to offer their economy service, which is as close to
guaranteed
two-day service as anyone will offer, for only $3.00 additional over
USPS
priorty rates.  Of course, we will continue to offer your preferred
shipper,
as we have accounts with all of the major couriers.

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From: JOE RINEHART                           Number: 12117
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/16/94  6:07a
Subj: Cd-rom Drives+                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

********* Refurbished  Hitachi Model 3600 CD-ROM DRIVES $130 *********
********* Refurbished  Hitachi Model 3500 CD-ROM DRIVES $120 *********
********* Refurbished SCSI NEC Model 36   CD-ROM DRIVES $130 *********
These units are also available needing refurbished at 50% off!
Catalog of 1,200+ CD-Titles and hardware products available-CDLIST.ZIP
           Internet: [e-mail]
      FidoNet 1:157/479 - RBBSNet 8:965/13 - KesherNet 18:711/176
Joe Rinehart / config.sys, Inc.     Voice: [phone]  -  24 hours
P.O. Box 27                         Data/Fax: [phone]
Kent, Ohio 44240-0001               >>>INTERNATIONAL ORDERS WELCOME<<<

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From: J.R. REED                              Number: 12118
  To: DAVE REED                                Date: 01/16/94  9:14p
Subj: Ferrets                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Dave-
        Just thought I'd drop a line to tell you that you're sick!
                                        -J.R.

    P.S.  That's a compliment.

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From: MIKE AVILA                             Number: 12119
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/16/94 11:10a
Subj: Desert Storm CD                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Has anybody seen the Time Desert Storm CD-ROM?  Any opinions on it?
Does it have a lot of good movies or is it just still pictures?

I appreciate any comments as I want to buy it for my son ASAP.  The
best price I have seen is $19 + $5 shipping.

THANKS

Mike



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From: MIKE GERVASI                           Number: 12120
  To: DANIEL PEACOCK                           Date: 01/16/94  7:56p
Subj: Scsi Interface card                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Then it happened......

DPI am interested in buying a normal speed Panasonic CDROM but it doesn't
DPhave an interface card could anyone please tell me how hard it would be
t
DPone, how expensive and where?

   I have a Future Domain TMC-850MEX 8-bit controller card and drivers
that came with my NEC 84. It should work with the Panasonic as long as
it's SCSI. (If I'm wrong, someone correct me please).

Anyway, if you want it, give me a ring.

 809-293-5375
                 Mike

Mike
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From: MARCIAL MORENO                         Number: 12121
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/16/94 10:44p
Subj: Nightowl 10 sale                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

                   ******> NIGHTOWL 10 <*******

                    $25.00 + 1.50 Shipping for
                       First class shipping.
                   Add $0.40 for second delivery.

                       While Supplies Last.

                  Call (800) MEGA-ROM 5pm-10pm PST.
                     VISA / MASTERCARD excepted.


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From: JOHN COOK                              Number: 12122
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/16/94  8:00p
Subj: Sony 525 troubles                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I have a pair of SONY 535s (internal) that starting refusing the caddy,
and\or ejecting it during a system reboot. Changed interface cards, cables,
cleaned len(s), lubed all friction points in the input path for the caddies..
Same problem persists, even after trying different caddie\disc combo.
These drives are good candidates for door stops or book ends. Anyone with
suggestions for solving this problem, please reply. Better yet, anyone
knowing of a number for obtaining an RMA from SONY so I can return for service,
please leave same.

Thanks in advance.

... I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere!
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From: JAN HOLZNAGEL                          Number: 12123
  To: DAVID NAVARRO                            Date: 01/16/94  7:48p
Subj: Your questions                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hallo David,

I'm sorry that it took me so long to answer you, but I had some technical
problems with my fido-equipment. Now I am registered as point and you can
write me via Net-Mail if you want.

You were asking me, where I am from. My Fido adress shows you, that I am from
Germany. I am living in Quickborn, near Hamburg. Shurely there are some CD's
in german available. But most games like Sherlock Holmes a.s.o are available
only in english. That's normal... ;-)

That's all for the moment. Have a nice time and good luck !!!

Bye!
Jan

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From: JAN WILLEM SMEENK                      Number: 12124
  To: KENSHIN SAKURA                           Date: 01/16/94 11:20a
Subj: T7G microscope                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 >      Well... I am one of these people that just HAS to finish
 > all the puzzles, and I really want to finish this one.
 > Someone, ANYONE who has completed this puzzle... please,
 > please give me a few hints!

Well there's no real hint to be give. Carefully look at the way the opponent
plays. Use the same strategy.
It took me about 100 times before I managed to win!

good luck

Jan Willem

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From: TERRY BLOUNT                           Number: 12125
  To: GARY COLMAN                              Date: 01/17/94  3:43p
Subj: CREAM OF THE CROP II                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Gary Colman wrote in a message to Terry Blount:


     >  + Origin: Center  of  the  Cosmos
GC>               Cream   of  the  Crop

GC> Any intentional connection??

Not conscious.

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From: JEFF WEISS                             Number: 12126
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/16/94  6:52p
Subj: *^ Custom CD-ROMs                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

We put YOUR DATA on a writable CD-ROM.

We accept almost any popular tape or removable media format.
Price for the first disc starts at $90.  Additional discs are
as low as $30.  Please CALL/WRITE/FAX for more info or read our
message in the Commercial For Sale echo.

           Eternal ARCHIVE Solutions, Inc.
                650 Cooke Street, #3
                    P.O. Box 4402
              Waterbury, CT 06704-0402
                 [phone] voice
                 [phone]  fax
*^

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From: JEFF WEISS                             Number: 12127
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/16/94  6:53p
Subj: *^ Writable CD-ROM                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

We now have the following writable CDs and hardware for sale.

  Ricoh 74 min (660 MB) CD-R discs $19.75 each (any quantity)
  Philips CD-ROM RECORDER and software           from  $4,995
  Ricoh CD-ROM RECORDER and software             from  $3,895

Please CALL/WRITE/FAX for more info or read our message in the
CD-ROM For Sale echo.

           Eternal ARCHIVE Solutions, Inc.
                650 Cooke Street, #3
                    P.O. Box 4402
              Waterbury, CT 06704-0402
                 [phone] voice
                 [phone]  fax
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From: JEFF WEISS                             Number: 12128
  To: CHRIS ANSELL                             Date: 01/17/94  9:36a
Subj: Re: write to cdrom                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Chris Ansell to Everybody <=-

 CA> Hi everyone, i was just wandering if ANYONE knew if a date has been
 CA> mentioned  when cd roms will become writable, ie transfer files from

Oh, maybe by some time in 1986. :)

That's the earliest I know of.

I know that this is when one of the first writers, the Video Tools
(Meridian Data Systems) CD Publisher was available.  There could have
been writable CDs made earlier, but that's as far back as I go.

Regards,
Jeff

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From: JEFF WEISS                             Number: 12129
  To: JASON WAGNER                             Date: 01/17/94 10:10a
Subj: Re: Thank You                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Jason Wagner to Jeff Weiss <=-

 JW> product is perfect, and I would surely recommend you and your company
 JW> to anyone who asks.  Thank you so much for being so helpful in
 JW> answering my questions and for shipping me a great product at a great
 JW> price!
 JW> Jason Wagner

Thank YOU.  If there's any other CD-ROM or tape related hardware or
software, don't hesitate to ask.  We're always happy to help.

Regards,
Jeff

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From: JEFF WEISS                             Number: 12130
  To: DANIEL TSUI                              Date: 01/17/94 10:40a
Subj: Re: *! Custom CD-ROMs                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

DT>Hi Jeff, I am thinking about these cd mastering machines. could you
DT>give me some more info on what is required and an approximate price.

We sell many premastering software packages as well as the Philips,
Kodak, Ricoh, and Pinnacle recorders all at very aggressive prices.
A complete package can be bought for as little as $3,895 (US).

All you need to provide is a PC (386-25 to a 486-33, depending on the CD
recorder and software you choose) and a 700 MB hard drive (1.5 gig is
recommended) with fast throughput (600 KB/sec to 1.5 MB/sec, again,
depending on your CD recorder and software).


DT>that the philips will write twice as fast as the ricoh? What is a normal
DT>writing time.

At single speed, a full 74 minute (650 MB) disc takes 74 minutes.
Double speed will take... hold on let me find my calculator... uhm,
can't find it... <g> ... Double speed will take half the time, 37 minutes
for a full disc.

DT>What do you mean by CD-GEN being multi-session capable?

To oversimplify the situation, here's how it all works.

Normally you write your data to the CD all at once, in one "session".
Any CD-ROM drive will be able to access that session.

Now, if you wish to add data to the CD-ROM at a later time, you must
add another session (hence "multisession").  Additional data is laid
down on the empty sectors following the original data.  This can be done
in one of two ways.

1) The wrong way.  The additional session is written be the recorder,
but it can only be read by the recorder through the use a special device
driver which allows you to switch between sessions as if you were
physically changing CDs.  Some software also allows other CD-ROM drives
to switch sessions in the same way.  Older versions of premaster software
only support this methodology.  Basically, it's useless.

2)  True XA (Kodak Photo-CD) multisession (the right way).  This allows
additional sessions to be added to the CD-ROM such that it is
transparent to the user as to which session the data is in.  The
additional sessions can only be accessed by "photo-CD" or "XA ready"
CD-ROM drives, which, fortunately, is just about any drive shipped today.
When a CD is loaded into an XA ready CD-ROM drive, the drive scans the
entire disc to find the latest table of contents.  The latest table of
contents points to the latest version of every file on the disc.
Earlier versions of the same file (written in earlier sessions) still
exist, but the table of contents only points to the most recent one.
This allows you to completely update a disc and use it as a backup
device.  When shopping for CD premastering software, always ask if it
writes true XA (Photo CD compatible) multisession.  If they tell you
that it's multi-session, but not XA multisession, stay away from it,
unless, of course, this capability is not important to you.

Popular programs that support true multisession include the latest
versions of CD-Gen and Easy-CD Pro Multimedia.  And, yes, we sell them.

If you need any further information, please feel free to call.

Regards,
Jeff
Eternal Archive Solutions, Inc.
203-759-0574

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From: LOUISE NORTON                          Number: 12131
  To: DAVE REED                                Date: 01/15/94  4:40p
Subj: Ferrets                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi Dave. Well just get you, you do have a unique solution for the Ferret
problem, however you do have a reading problem as well as a manners problem,
your poor Mother must feel bad having raised one such as you.  I take no
offence with you its hard to be hurt by a idiot!. as for Guns and Targets  I
can hit the tail of a running rat with a muzzel loader myself so have no
problems with gun's either but the same case applys" no offence taken. "
Simple rule of Live DAVE.....IF YOU CAN"T SAY ANYTHING NICE....."don't say
anything AT ALL."  Louise

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From: LOUISE NORTON                          Number: 12132
  To: THE LAWMAN                               Date: 01/15/94  4:46p
Subj: Sorry                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi, Lawman.   Boy am glad you are out there to help all us dumb people.  So
Sorry to have gotten into this area but out Local BBS was having a problem and
it was just to much for us older americans to figure out.  so I am sorry to
have ruined you wonderful day. slap self in face for you..save your dainty
hand. Thank you so much for your kind constructive help. Louise

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From: LOUISE NORTON                          Number: 12133
  To: JOHN ULLMER                              Date: 01/15/94  4:50p
Subj: Re: Sorry                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi John . SOrry this message got into the wrong area but as we were having a
problem here we had no idea it was getting into your sacred area, sackcloth to
me....You were such a wonderful human being to point that out to this OLD lady
that I can't thank you enough.  What every do you do with you spare time.
Louise

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From: LOUISE NORTON                          Number: 12134
  To: JOHN ULLMER                              Date: 01/15/94  4:52p
Subj: Ferrets.                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Gee john......youse is soo cuteee. how ever do you keep yours∩kelf busy at
night...I bet you have to take your shoes off and try to count all 4 √ √ of
your toes. with nobody to make fun of it must be pretty boring for your pea
mind.SIn a message originally to Louise Norton, John Ullmer said:

JU>@MSGID: 1:387/603.0 2d355b62
JU> -=> Quoting Louise Norton to All <=-
JU>
JU> LN> Hello All.  We are starting a new project for entertainment in our
JU> LN> household  this year....It is call project SAVE.  we have made
JU> LN> arrangments to rescue all Ferrets brought into our Humane
JU> LN> Society,  At present ANY Fwrret brought in is put to sleep
JU> LN> without fail..  we have decieded to run a clearing house
JU> LN> for all Ferrets ...keeping track of lost and found pets as
JU> LN> well as saving those about to be put to sleep.
JU>
JU>  If you have a used or unwanted Ferret
JU> LN> PLEASE leave us a line here and we will get back to you.
JU> LN> Thanks ever.  LOUISE
JU>
JU>
JU>        Sounds like a plot for a Disney movie, but I don't
JU>        think it'll made a very good CD-ROM game.
JU>
JU>
JU>
JU>
JU>... I used to play tag when I was a kid.
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From: DAVE REED                              Number: 12135
  To: STEVE FAIRBAIRN                          Date: 01/15/94  5:43p
Subj: SHAREWARE CDROMS                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Steve!

Thursday January 13 1994 16:35, Steve Fairbairn wrote to All:

 SF> Can anyone recommend good OS/2 or Macintosh shareware CDROMs suitable for
 SF> posting on a BBS?

CD PowerBox v1 and v2 are both pretty good.

Later,

Dave

... Bill Clinton (n).  Gay-loving, draft-dodging, pot-smoking, womanizer.

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From: DAVE REED                              Number: 12136
  To: JOEL BAZONSKI                            Date: 01/15/94  5:44p
Subj: BBS Software on CD?                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Joel!

Friday January 14 1994 14:17, Joel Bazonski wrote to All:

 JB> I'm looking for a CD that has thousands of BBS programs on 1 CD that is
 JB> possibly BBS-READY   Is there such thing? Can someone give me a # to call
 JB> voice to order it? Thanks

CD PowerBox.  Version 1 or 2... although 2 is the latest.  Call Mike Shannon at
Starvector Software [phone] and he'll fix 'ya up.  I run the PowerBox on
my BBS and the users love it.

Later,

Dave

... Bill Clinton: The Milli Vanilli of Presidents.

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From: DAVE REED                              Number: 12137
  To: ARNIE GROSS                              Date: 01/15/94  5:45p
Subj: OS/2 CD-ROMs                            Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No

Hello Arnie!

Thursday January 13 1994 10:57, Arnie Gross wrote to All:

 AG> Can anyone please give me an objective comparison
 AG> of the following three discs?

 AG> (1) OS/2 Companion  (Tropical Publishing, 11/93)

GOOD

 AG> (2) Hobbes OS/2     (Walnut Creek, 10/93)

BETTER

 AG> (3) OS/2 Box        (Damar Enterprises, 9/93)

BEST

I know this looks like a smart-assed response, but it's not.  I feel I'm well
qualified to comment on OS/2-related matters <g> and for content, the OS/2 box
is the best way to go.  My only comlaint is that the user interface is not PM
based.

Later,

Dave

... Work harder!  Millions on welfare are depending on you!

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From: MARTIN CLEAVER                         Number: 12138
  To: JIM HOFBAUER                             Date: 01/14/94  9:35a
Subj: !free Cd catalog!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi Jim,

In a message of <Fri 7 Jan 94 08:19> to Joe Rinehart (), you wrote:

 JR> *********** FREE HUGE CD-ROM DISC & accessories CATALOG!*************
 JR> For the largest selection & lowest prices, get our NEW catalog...
 JR> If you'd like a printed copy, send your mailing information to us.
 JR> We offer CDLIST file attach's upon request.


 JH>         Yes, I would love to get a copy of your list.  Please send it to:

 JH>  Jim Hofbauer

Jim (and all others replying, like myself), please send your personal requests
*NETMAIL*. That would considerably help to slow the flow of junk in this
intercontinental echo... :-(

Bye, Martin.

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From: DEREK STUTSMAN                         Number: 12139
  To: LESLIE RHORER                            Date: 01/15/94  3:32p
Subj: Re: KODAK PHOTOCD                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Since you guys are talking about Photo CD's, can you tell me how much it
costs to have one made?  I asked the guy at the local drugstore, and got
the expected dumb look.



Derek Stutsman
 * Wave Rider 1.03 Beta # 153 *
... Large fries, pie, large coffee.  PRONTO!
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From: BARON SCHWING                          Number: 12140
  To: ANDREW BISHOP                            Date: 01/16/94  5:12a
Subj: Driver                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

on (11 Jan 94) Andrew Bishop wrote to Laurie Batt...

 AB> c:\dos\qemm\loadhi /RF C:\DOS\mscdex /d:laser /m:8 /E /V
 The /d: tells the CDrom what to name the drive should be /d:f for instance
you are nameing the drive Laser. Didn't realize that would work huh ?


Hope it helps.



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From: RAY CANADA                             Number: 12141
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/16/94  9:20p
Subj: Pioneer 6CD SCSI CDrom Reader           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I have been trying to get a Pioneer 6 CD Cdrom working on a Gateway 2000
(486dx33). I loaded the device drivers from the manufacturers disk, which
then automatically made changes to the autoexec and config. sys. Can anyone
give me a successful config.sys and autoexec.bat command line for this CDROM
and the Gateway. Thanks!

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From: BAYANI CUSTODIO                        Number: 12142
  To: ANDREW MORRISON                          Date: 01/15/94 10:37a
Subj: CD-ROM Drive Opinions                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

AM>Hi, i have a 386dx40 with standard SBlaster, and I have
AM>been blown away with some CD titles. What is a decent drive
AM>to run with my system. Any opinions?!

The Mitsumi and the one that came with the SBlaster seems to work fine
for me.

See yah later
Bayani
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From: HALL STEVENSON                         Number: 12143
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/14/94  4:58p
Subj: MITSUMI CD-ROM QUESTIONS                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

        I recently bought a Mitsumi FX001D cd-rom and have a few
questions.
        First, the driver (mtmcdae.sys) is dated 7-14-93.  I think it's
version 1.10, but I'm not sure.  Question: Is this the latest driver
available?  I'd like one that hopefully would be smaller when loaded
into memory.  The line in config.sys for this driver is:
             lh mtmcdae.sys /d:cdrom001 (?) /p:300 /a:0 /m:32 /t:5 /I:10
The problem is that this takes up 78k of my high memory.  I know that
reducing the /m switch would help, but that would also reduce
performance, right?
        Second, this drive does not use an SCSI interface, right?  Does
it use an AT bus interface?  The reason is, I cannot use smartdrive to
cache this drive, correct?  If not, what caching program can I use?
I've read that Norton's Speedcache will work, but I'm not positive.
        Finally, how do I connect the drive so that I can hear music
through the SB Pro?  Right now, the line-out wire goes to the cd-rom
drive's interface card's line-in connector.  As it is, I cannot hear a
audio disc's sound through the sound card and amplified speakers.  Not
that I'd necessarily want to, but I assume if a had a game with music
that I would not hear it then, right?  Should I connect this wire from
the cd-rom drive to the SBPro's cd-in plug?

I appreciate anyone's help and look forward to your reply.

Hall

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From: SID LEE                                Number: 12144
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/16/94 10:13a
Subj: TOSHIBA 3401/Adaptec 1510/EZSCSI/GROLIERS  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 Quite some time ago I posted a message here describing an
 annoying problem I had with the above combination not working
 even though my setup did fine with a number of other ROM's. I am
 pleased to report that my vendor and I finally managed to get
 together this weekend and the problem is now resolved. We
 installed a new version of the EZ-SCSI drivers from Adaptec and
 it fixed everything right up including some eliminating the need
 for some "funny" choices for options I had found that I required
 originally. I now have a "vanilla" install of the EZ-SCSI
 drivers that works with all my stuff ;-) My vendor reported that
 he had to do a fair bit of arm twisting with Adaptec to get the
 updated drivers but they eventually let him have them. He only
 got them recently so I guess it's a good thing it took us as
 long as it did to get back together.

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From: ROBERT GOUGH                           Number: 12145
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 01/16/94 10:24a
Subj: Re: !free Cd catalog!                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Joe Rinehart to All <=-
 JR> If you'd like a printed copy, send your mailing information to us.

Hi Joe...

Could you please send me one...

   Robert Gough
   6605-19 St. S.E.
   Calgary AB Canada T2C 0P1

Thanks...........

           Robert Gough



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From: WEE YUNG                               Number: 12146
  To: SCOTT RENFRO                             Date: 01/14/94  1:14a
Subj: cdrom                                   Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No

SR>I need some input from anybody with knowledge of the panasonic cr-562
SR>drive and the mitsumi fx001 drives. I know the panasonic has a 320 seek
SR>and a 300 transfer rate ,  I don't know about the buffer size.  The
SR>mitsumi is a I have seen advertised as a 250 seek and 300+ transfer rate
SR>.  The mit has a 32k buffer and the panasonic I am finding out, not
SR>sure I think 64k.  Which is the better drive??

The Panasonic have 64k cache. The Panasonic have slower seek time but
have more buffer therefore it run faster than Mitsumi.
If you have Sound Blaster Pro then you need to buy Panasonic.

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From: WEE YUNG                               Number: 12147
  To: JERRY CUPPLES                            Date: 01/14/94  1:14a
Subj: caddy shortage in Dallas                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

JC>I have a new Apple CD300 which uses the Sony caddies. All
JC>the dealers in big D seem to be out of the caddies, and the
JC>price is pretty near the cost of the darn CD's. Any

I sell them $5 each

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From: WEE YUNG                               Number: 12148
  To: WARREN BIRD                              Date: 01/14/94  1:14a
Subj: Panasonic drive                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

WB>I have a panasonic CR-563-B and i would like to know the
WB>specs on it and would also like to know what Card i can run
WB>it off... I have a SOUND VISION 16 AISP but it doesnt run

It would run with sound blaster
All brand new with manufacture warranty.
Sound Blaster Pro Deluxe ......................................$115
Sound Blaster 16 Basic Edition w/Pana controller build in......$129
Sound Blaster 16 MCD w/Pana/mits/sony contlr.w/ASP $189 wo/ASP.$159
Price does not included shipping. Internet [e-mail]
Call 310-602-2076 8AM-12PM, 6PM-9PM PST or mail order payable to: TRUC
16429 Bixler ave. Paramount, CA 90723. Accept money order, COD $5extra


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From: WEE YUNG                               Number: 12149
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/16/94  1:16a
Subj: CDROM forsale                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

All brand new with manufacture warranty.
CD-ROM Mitsumi CRMC LU-005S w/contlr 630MB, 350ms, Kodak comp. $169
CD-ROM Mitsumi FX001  Single spin 280ms 150k/s 32k cache Inter.$185
CD-ROM Mitsumi FX001D double spin.250ms 300k/s 32k cache Inter.$209
CD-ROM Panasonic 562B 320ms Double spin.300k/s 64k cache.Inter.$209
CD-ROM MicroSolution Parallel port 350ms 128k cache caddyless..$359
CD-ROM NEC 3XI SCSI Tripple spin 195ms External.$589/Internal..$489
CD-ROM NEC 3XP SCSI Portable 250ms.............................$439
CD-ROM Texel DM3028 SCSI 240ms,64k cache External.$479/Internal$375.
CD-ROM Toshiba   4101b SCSI D spin, 300k/s 320ms, 256k cache   $269.
CD-ROM Toshiba MX3401b SCSI D spin,Kodak comp.200ms, 256k cache$369.
Price does not included shipping. Internet [e-mail]
Call 310-602-2076 8AM-12PM, 6PM-9PM PST or mail order payable to: TRUC
16429 Bixler ave. Paramount, CA 90723. Accept money order, COD $5extra

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From: WEE YUNG                               Number: 12150
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/16/94  1:16a
Subj: Multimedia kit forsale                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

All brand new with manufacture warranty.
Multimedia kit. SB Pro+Pana 522B CDROM+4 CDs+Speakers..........$339.
Creative Lab Omni CDROM Double spin + softwares+ controller....$309.
Creative Lab Discovery 8. D spin CDROM+SB Pro+2CDs+Speakers....$359.
Creative Lab Discovery 16.D spin CDROM+SB 16 +2CDs+Speakers....$419.
Creative Lab Digitalege D spin CDROM+SB16 ASP+4CDs+Speakers/mic$649
Media Vision Pro 16 + NEC 55J D spin 350ms+speakers............$429.
Media Vision Fusion Double16. PAS16+NEC D spin 350ms+speakers..$599
Media Vision Pro 16 + Toshiba 3401B+speakers+6 titles..........$599
Mitsumi CDROM+Sound Galaxy NX Pro card free speakers...........$279
Price does not included shipping. Internet [e-mail]
Call 310-602-2076 8AM-12PM, 6PM-9PM PST or mail order payable to: TRUC
16429 Bixler ave. Paramount, CA 90723. Accept money order, COD $5extra

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From: WEE YUNG                               Number: 12151
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/16/94  1:16a
Subj: CDROM title for $15                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

TRUC. 16429 Bixler ave. Paramount, CA 90723 fax [phone]
Titles are $15 each. Call 310-602-2076 8am-12pm, 6pm-9pm PST ask Wee Yung.
1001 Utilites shareware..501 sound waves.........Aminet Amiga.............
Bussiness Assistant......Ciga games..............Colossal Cookbook........
Complete book shop.......Computer Reference lib..Deathstar Arcade battles.
Dictionaries & Language..Encyclopedia of sound...Gabo.....................
Gardening................Hobbes OS/2.............Jokes & Pranks...........
MPC Wizzard..............OS/2 Archive shareware..OS/2 shareware...........
Our Solar System.........PC SIG Home & Bus coll..Profile American colleges
QRZ Ham radio............Racer 1001 Utilities....Racer Game arena ........
Racer Jocks & Pranks.....Racer learning activity.Shareware overload.......
Significants Series......Simtel..................Sound sensations.........
Add $3 for shipping in USA. No exchange difference title. COD $5 extra.

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From: JONATHAN CHAU                          Number: 12152
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 01/16/94  1:26p
Subj: !free Cd catalog!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

The date was 01-11-1994...  JOE RINEHART mumbled something to ALL...

JR> *********** FREE HUGE CD-ROM DISC & accessories
JR> CATALOG!*************

I'd like a copy:  Jonathan Chau
          10626-161 ave
           Edmonton, Alberta
          T5X-5C9, Canada

Jonathan.  [Team OS/2]


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From: JONATHAN CHAU                          Number: 12153
  To: CHIP SLATE                               Date: 01/16/94  1:29p
Subj: Good Games.                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

The date was 01-10-1994...  CHIP SLATE mumbled something to MATT
CULLEN...

CS> Well,personally my favorite game would have to be The Seventh
CS> Guest It is quite an interesting game...However when/if you beat it
CS> then it starts to just collect dust in its case..Then again what CD
CS> doesn't...

Quick question, how do you end it?  I assumed that once I finished the
coffin flipping puzzle, it would end (after all, I have viewed all of
the cinematics and finished all of the puzzles, unless there's some
that I missed, which I doubt), but it didn't.  So now, I'm just
wandering around the mansion, with no purpose in Ego's life.

Could you maybe post a quick puzzle list?  Thanks!

Jonathan.  [Team OS/2]


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From: WILLIAM SCHNEIDER, JR.                 Number: 12154
  To: MIKE LAWSON                              Date: 01/15/94  5:31p
Subj: Multi-disk cdroms                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

ML>Hi, I Hadn't seen that one, Sounds really cool. If You Don't mind,
ML>when you see it again, can you give me an issue and page number.
ML>They're wanting to get a couple of multidisks for the library where I
ML>work, and 1 of them might just be simpiler than 3 of the older ones.
ML>You said they are triple speed, any idea of the load time for each
ML>disk, before the seek starts in? Thanks.

Hi Mike, that story was on pages 60-61 in the January '94 issue of PC
Computing. I was mistaken, it's not a triple speed drive, it's qaudruple
speed drive! That's 600 kilobits per second, or 105% faster than MPC 2
requirements. The article states that it takes 6 to 10 seconds for
changing discs. The drive uses three 6-pack cartridges, the same as
Pioneer home and car changers. ONLY $2,995! Gee, I got that much pocket
change right now! But, 18 double speed drives will cost you $9,000, plus
the cost of extra SCSI adapters, according to the article. The model
number is DRM-1804X from Pioneer New Media Technologies.

-William


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From: ERIC JAN                               Number: 12155
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/13/94 11:04p
Subj: Rebel Assault                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello,

   Does anyone out there have a copy of Rebel Assault?   From some
review that I read, it was rated very high because of its superb
graphics and sounds.. but someone told me that besides the graphics and
sounds, it is a very boring game?!  I was told that there is not much
game in Rebel Assault, it is more like a graphics demo..??!!  Is that
true?  Because I am thinking of buying it..

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From: KENSHIN SAKURA                         Number: 12156
  To: CHUCK SPEAR                              Date: 01/16/94  2:07a
Subj: Re: The 7th Guest.                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

*** Quoting Chuck Spear to Kenshin Sakura ***

CS> doesn't work the way it should. Just look in the clue book 3
CS> times, and go on. The support line also says that you really
CS> don't miss anything doing it this way.

     Well, the thing is, I really want to solve the puzzle and I'm wondering if
anyone out there has solved the microscope puzzle. I know I could very easily
bypass it with the cluebook... but I want the satisfaction of actually solving
the puzzle... just for the heck of it =)  Have you solved this particular
puzzle?

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From: KENSHIN SAKURA                         Number: 12157
  To: JEFF KEY                                 Date: 01/16/94  2:09a
Subj: Re: T7G Maze                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

*** Quoting Jeff Key to Kenshin Sakura ***

JK> Well, to tell you the truth, I 'cheated'..  I couldn't win for
JK> the life
JK> of me..  So I got some of my non-computer literate friends that
JK> were
JK> supposedly good at reversi to try it and they couldn't either..
JK> so I
JK> finally resorted to going to the library clue book 3 times..
JK> after 3
JK> times, it says 'They puzzle is solved!' so if you can't get it..
JK> just
JK> do that..  trust me..  I tried MANY, MANY times..  oh well..
JK> good luck!

     Hmmm, well from what people have told me in this base, it seems that this
puzzle is virtually impossible to solve normally.... I don't think it's fair
for them to put such a hard puzzle in the game, one without a solution.

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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 12158
  To: KEN KIRKLEY                              Date: 01/12/94 10:14a
Subj: Big Sky Disc                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

KK>Has any of you had any exposure to the Big Sky ROM disc? If so,
  >how well did you like it? Was it easy to set up for your BBS (any
  >Spitfire sysops)? Was there a wide variety of file areas and files?
  >Reason for asking......I am looking at the possiblity of buying Big
  >Sky II when it is released and wondered what their track record was on
  >the other.

Hi Ken.  Big Sky ROM was very easy for me to set up.  It is a great
general purpose shareware disc with a wide variety of files.  Feel free
to give my BBS a call and take a look for yourself.  Each file has a
file_id.diz included so when these files are uploaded elsewhere, the
sysop's work is already done.  It has been a real popular disc here.

                                                        Jim...

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From: POE LIM                                Number: 12159
  To: OLIVER KREFT                             Date: 01/16/94  1:30a
Subj: Re: Return to Zork                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Oliver,

On Jan 02 11:42 in a msg to Andrew Bishop, Oliver Kreft of 2:243/6121.11 wrote:

 OK> I nearly finished this very hard game. Now I am standing in front
 OK> of the flood control damm #3 and want to throw the flying disc at
 OK> it. But as I do, the computer crashes and I am with the DOS prompt

You don't want to do that! Wrong place for the disk; get some water unseen
instead.


Cheers,
Poe

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From: CRAIG HUXLEY                           Number: 12160
  To: STEVE MANN                               Date: 01/13/94  8:11p
Subj: Beatles - Hard Day's Night              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Steve!

Wednesday January 05 1994 10:48, Steve Mann wrote to Danny McClatchey:

 SM> Hi Danny,
 SM>
 SM> You asked about the Beatles movie "A Hard Day's Night"
 SM> Yes we will have the MPC/Windows version and our price is $66.
 SM>
 SM> I also made some enquiries about publishing rights etc.  Apparently the CD
 SM> will no longer be produced and the publishers right to sell it expired at
 SM> the end of November 1993.  Distributors and retailers may sell it until
 SM> stocks are exhausted.  I guess this means we'll run out soon.
 SM>
 SM> Cheers, Steve.

Whats it like Steve?

How long does it go for etc?

Regards
Craig

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From: TONY STOTT                             Number: 12161
  To: MARSHALL FREEDLAND                       Date: 01/15/94 10:17p
Subj: Nec-38 Multispin                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On 12-21-93,  Marshall Freedland elucidated to Mike Shumko:

MF>Mike Shumko defrosted his (partially) defrosted his fingers to write..
MF>
MF>MS> I have a NEC CDR-83M drive. How can I tell that it's really the
MF>MS> "M" model with multi-spin, or double-speed, or whatever it's
MF>MS> called? Does the version number of the firmware reported by
MF>MS> the SCSITEST utility mean anything? /Mike
MF>
MF>I think that your fingers got crossed there, Mike.  Maybe it was due t
MF>the ice on your hands not being totally thawed out before you started
MF>type, but whatever... I think you meant that you have the NEC-38 (not
MF>83).

Bzzzzt! Wrong! Sorry, but there IS an 83M as well as a 73M. The
83M was the first double speed NEC internal SCSI cdrom drive,
while the 73M was the external equivalent. These were both
announced at the February 92 Comdex. How do I know? I bought
my 73M mail order from Cdrom Inc in Colorado in April 92....

The 73M was indistinguishable from the plain ol' 73, except for
a 1/2" lime yellow sticker on its bottom, and on the shipping
carton. Both drives were soon replaced by the 74 and 84. The
M series are double speed, single session Photo CD capable
(personally proven), and are pretty good performers (pity they
were so dear way back then!)

Hope this helps...


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From: TONY STOTT                             Number: 12162
  To: AL RAMIREZ                               Date: 01/15/94 10:17p
Subj: Seventh Guest                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On 12-20-93,  Al Ramirez elucidated to Paul Dellavalle:

AR>From what I have seen all 7th guest is is a bunch of animation clips
AR>and a few puzzles.

Yeah, like the Pyramids are just a bunch of blocks! I think you are a
little simplistic in your assessment.

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From: TONY SAUNDERS                          Number: 12163
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 01/12/94 10:18p
Subj: Return to Zork                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On 1st Jan 1994 Doug Carpenter wrote grinningly :)

DC> TS> ROMS. I paid $64.95 for my copy of RTZ and it came
DC> TS> in a standard CD case
DC> TS> with a 30 page book,whereas if you buy the fully boxed version
DC>(which
DC> TS> probably comes with a glow-in-the-dark full-sized
DC> TS> map of The Underground
DC>
DC>It pays to shop around sometimes <g>.  We sell the fully boxed
DC>version for
DC>$44.95 and will have the OEM version for less than that shortly.

OH,It looks like the American feed has restarted.The message was posted
when the echo was restricted to Australia so the prices were in Australian
dollars. A$64.95 is probably the cheapest price in Australia for RTZ and I
don't think anyone likes wasting $20 on packaging when it doesn't improve
the game.

See ya
Tony


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From: TONY SAUNDERS                          Number: 12164
  To: ANDREW SEE                               Date: 01/12/94 10:18p
Subj: Return to Zork                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On 30th Dec 1993 Andrew See did write:

AS>TS>The sound drivers are very odd.I ended up using the SB16 option
AS>even
AS>TS>though my Sound Galaxy NX Pro 16 is not supposed to support it.The
AS>TS>Windows Sound system and Disney sound source didn't work even
AS>though

AS>The sound drivers with RTZ are the industry standard Miles drivers
AS>with
AS>the extension *.adv, the sbdig.adv or adlibfm.adv driver with this
AS>game
AS>is exactly the same as the corresponding driver that ships with other
AS>
AS>games using these drivers (7TH guest, Seal Team etc). Interestingly,
AS>RTZ only supports the SB/Pro/16 as adlib for music.

I found out why I am using SB16 for speech etc.It uses an SBPro digipack
driver(which is compatible with NXPro16 card.The Windows Sound System also
works now,but it very choppy compared to SBPro option.STupid programmes
don't know there are IRQ's above 7.My default for Window Sound System is
10 so once I changed it to 7 it worked.Though I'll stick with SB16 option
because it has so much better sound quality.

See ya
Tony


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From: TONY SAUNDERS                          Number: 12165
  To: TONY STOTT                               Date: 01/12/94 10:18p
Subj: T/l Graphics Card                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

ON 1st Jan 1994 Tony Stott did reply to my colourful message as such:

TS>I have a 486DX33 and only notice some wrong colours very rarely..
TS>Maybe
TS>mine is from a different batch?

Mmmmmmmm,very strange.Either my card was from a new batch and had some
bugs in the VGA Bios or I was very unlucky to try so many games all in a
row that had this problem.Let me know if you try any of the games I
mentioned and they work OK.

See ya.
Tony.


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From: PAUL SMITH                             Number: 12166
  To: DAVE CLARK                               Date: 01/14/94  8:43p
Subj: Re: CorelDRAW V3 CD                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

sorry pal, but i think you got the wrong paul smith. i will take
donations for a cd rom however


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From: SIMON GLASSER                          Number: 12167
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/15/94  9:23p
Subj: Return to Zork                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Can someone please help me out with RTZ.

1. How do I heal the bonding plant?

2. What do I do with the meat?

3. How do I feed the cow? I have the carrots but when I try to feed it, it says
"later"?

If you know the answear to these questions please reply.

            S.G

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From: TONY STOTT                             Number: 12168
  To: MAURY WEST                               Date: 01/16/94 11:35a
Subj: Cd Audio Problems                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On 01-10-94, in a colourful display of the English language, Maury West
said to All:-

MW>I have a Mitsumi single speed reader and a Soundblaster Pro audio card
MW>I'm running multiple configurations provided by DOS 6.2. I have no
MW>problems getting cd audio when booting up Windows, however, when I
MW>access the cd audio player from the Dosshell, I don't get any sound. T
MW>light goes on indicating the cd rom reader is being accessed and the
MW>audio program shows that it is playing. Curiously, if I jump to Window
MW>and then back to the Dosshell the cd audio will work from the Dosshell
MW>If I select the Dosshell bootup configuration from the multiple setup
MW>menu provided by DOS 6.2, I do get video but no cd audio from the cd r
MW>reader. Does anyone have any suggestions as to the source of this
MW>problem? I appreciate any advice.

You DO have a cable running from the audio out on the cdrom to the
little white four pin "bathtub" in the middle of the SBPro don't
you? If not, there is no way for the cd audio to reach your PC.

The cable can be bought fairly cheaply, or even made, if you have
good eyesight(!)

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From: TONY STOTT                             Number: 12169
  To: LOUISE NORTON                            Date: 01/16/94 11:35a
Subj: Ferrets & Cds                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On 01-11-94, in a colourful display of the English language, Louise Norton
said to All:-

LN>Hello All.  We are starting a new project for entertainment in our
LN>household this year....It is call project SAVE.  we have made
LN>arrangments to rescue all Ferrets brought into our Humane Society,  At
LN>present ANY Fwrret brought in is put to sleep without fail..  we have
LN>decieded to run a clearing house for all Ferrets ...

But don't you have problems with those sharp teeth damaging cdroms?<g>

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From: ANDREW PARSONS                         Number: 12170
  To: SIMON CLAUSEN                            Date: 01/12/94 10:04p
Subj: os/2 support                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 On 01-06-94 SIMON CLAUSEN wrote to NORM HILL...

 SC>
 SC> Norm, I had exactly the same problem as you, I got the sbcd2.add
 SC> driver from Creative pacific, didn't work at all. Then I called the
 SC> ibm bbs and got it from them, worked straight away. The file is called
 SC> sbcd2.zip and is in area "21-drv", It's got good instructions with it.
 SC>
I assume we're talking about cd driver for os/2, for the sound
blaster/creative labs cd packs?

If so, will that driver work for sb16?

When I try and install a CD ROM from the original disks it can't find it, and
the drivers that come with the pack are for dos. If this is not what you
meant, can anyone help me?

And if it is, can you direct me to the ibm bbs?

Thanks,

Andrew.

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From: IAN BISHOP                             Number: 12171
  To: BARRY RYDER                              Date: 01/15/94  3:11p
Subj: you?                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 BR> Gidday Ian,

 BR> I hear you are leaving Brisbane !

<CHA-CHING!!>  That's correct Barry.  I leave for Mt. Isa on the 22nd of this
month.  I'll be specialising in Software sales after I get there.  Hardware is
to much hassle unless it's a particularly good order's worth.

 BR> Well, before you go, can you tell me if you carry any
 BR> of the Amiga PD CDs ?

Not really.  Basically get what the customers want these days as they want
them.

 BR> Specifically, I am after the new Aminet disc... not
 BR> sure if it is actually out yet, but it cant be far off
 BR> if it isn't :)

Don't know of it's availability in Australia unfortunately.

I'll post a note when I am back on the echos

Regards, Ian


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From: BENJAMIN LIN                           Number: 12172
  To: STEVE MANN                               Date: 01/10/94 10:21p
Subj: Jan 94 Catalogues FREE                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 On 01-06-94 Steve Mann wrote to All...

 SM> We have limited supplies of our January 1994 (preliminary) catalogue.
 SM>
 SM>
 SM> It is preliminary because we are in negotiations with
 SM> several new distributors and are thus adding many new
 SM> titles to our range *and* reducing prices on some existing
 SM> titles.  These will be sent tomorrow to those already
 SM> waiting.
 SM>
 SM> If you would like to receive a free catalogue, of our CD-
 SM> ROM titles and MM Kits, then contact our office or send an
 SM> e-mail/netmail message.

Yes, please send me a catalogue to

    Benjamin Lin
    143/9 GLOUCESTER PLACE
    KENSINGTON
    NSW 2033
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From: JASON WILLIAMS                         Number: 12173
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/12/94  1:02a
Subj: Pioneer 6-disc CD-ROM                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Does anyone know of a decent price for the fast Pioneer 6-disc changer in
Australia...

For the prices we've been quoted you can buy FIVE triple speed single disc
players...  $2500 ex tax...  There has to be someone sellin' them cheaper...

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From: JASON WILLIAMS                         Number: 12174
  To: TODD PRUSKI                              Date: 01/14/94 12:21p
Subj: SBPRO Joystick, GUS                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 > Also, I have seen the Gravis UltraSound Boards with General MIDI
 > wavetable synthesis.  Do these also allow SAMPLES to be used in the
 > wavetable as an instrument?  I checked out the box for one, and it
 > wasn't real clear.  It did say there was 256K of RAM on the board,
 > and
 > expandable to 1M.  But it never said clearly what this was for, or if
 > samples could be taken, then played using MIDI keys.

The way the GUS plays instruments is to load the patch file containing the
instrument patch file into its onboard RAM and play it from there at whatever
key is requested.

Available for the UltraSound now is 'Patch Maker Lite', which allows you to
create or modify patches at your will.  For instance, you could load change the
violin sound in patch number 40 to a machine gun, or the whistle on key 71 to a
thunder clap.

Through Windows, you can also set up your system to use an UltraSound in
combination with a normal General MIDI card.  For example, you could have MIDI
channels 1 thru 10 being sent to a Sound Canvas for your normal melody, and
then channels 11 thru 16 being sent to an UltraSound for your custom samples.

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From: STEVE MANN                             Number: 12175
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/16/94  2:39p
Subj: New CDROMS's                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

**** JUST RELEASED ****              **** SOON (JANUARY) ****
$85 CYBER RACE                       $85 STAR TREK CD
$79 PROTOSTAR                        $85 STAR TREK: 25TH ANIVERARY
$85 MAN ENOUGH                       $85 MECHWARRIOR II
$99 CRITICAL PATH                    $85 GABRIEL NIGHT
$75 SHERLOCK HOLMES III              $95 QUANTUM GATE

and more coming...

Aesthetic Software P/L  PO Box 459 Gosford NSW, 2250 Australia
Voice/Fax:[phone]   BBS:(043) 23-9076   Fido: 3:711/440
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From: STEVE MANN                             Number: 12176
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/16/94 10:29a
Subj: NEW CD-ROMS                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

        **** All New Clip Art plus Graphic Tools (Windows) ****

                Introductory Price $45  (Note: RRP $75)

Contains an extensive collection of new and royalty free Clip Art graphics plus
a variety of graphic tools for viewing and editing.  There are b/w and colour
(256 and 24bit) images in PCX, TIFF, JPG, WMF and BMP formats.  Also included
is a selection of icons, animations and various sound files in WAV and MIDI
formats.  The $45 price applies to our current stock after which the price
reverts back to our new catalogue price of $59.


Aesthetic Software P/L  PO Box 459 Gosford NSW, 2250 Australia
Voice/Fax:[phone]   BBS:(043) 23-9076   Fido: 3:711/440
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From: STEVE MANN                             Number: 12177
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/16/94  1:57p
Subj: New CDROM's                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

$39 DR. MUSIC --- BBS ready, Midi files, S/B utilities, Music Editor, Tools,
    WAV, SND, ROL, MOD, Instrument synthesizers, Voice Synthesis, Demo files,
    Adlib Utilities, Convox Speech, Scream Tracker, Pianoman, Programming,
    Jukeboxes, Music tutors and MUCH MORE.

$37 SOFTWARE VAULT WINDOWS COLLECTION --- Great interface program, Drivers,
    Hottest Hits, Games, Business, Education, Programming, Multimedia, Icons,
    Images, Fonts, Hottest Hits, Communication and MUCH MORE. Files up to the
    end of 1993.  Requires Windows 3.1

Aesthetic Software P/L  PO Box 459 Gosford NSW, 2250 Australia
Voice/Fax:[phone]   BBS:(043) 23-9076   Fido: 3:711/440
         VISA * MASTERCARD * BANKCARD * COD * CHEQUE

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From: STEVE MANN                             Number: 12178
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/16/94  2:13p
Subj: New CDROM's                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

$79 WHO KILLED SAM RUPERT  (JC version also in stock at $49)
    NEW RELEASE, Multimedia Mystery. The latest in interactive detective
    mystery movies.  You are assigned the case just after the yuppie Sam
    Rupert is discovered dead in his restaurant.

$55 JUST GRANDMA & ME (JC) --- Simply the best interactive story for 2+ y.o.

Aesthetic Software P/L  PO Box 459 Gosford NSW, 2250 Australia
Voice/Fax:[phone]   BBS:(043) 23-9076   Fido: 3:711/440
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From: STEVE MANN                             Number: 12179
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/16/94  2:28p
Subj: New CDROM's                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

$44 The Chessmaster 3000

$53 20th Century Video Almanac
    Using the world's largest historical film archives, CEL Educational
    Resources brings you the most earthshaking events of the 20th Century.
    Touch down on the moon, relive Woodstock, attend Presidents Kennedy's
    inauguration, or take a front row seat at the 1916 World Series.
$53 20th Century Sports Almanac
$53 20th Century People Almanac
    Like 20th Century Video Almanac but for specific topics.

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From: STEVE MANN                             Number: 12180
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/16/94  2:55p
Subj: UPDATE                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

    Once again requests for catalogues exceeded our projections.  We were able
to send them to all but about 12 people.  For those waiting we are having more
printed on Monday and they will be sent as soon as possible after that.

    The run-around from Microsoft continues.  Delivery date for Encarta has
been put back to 'late January'.  We have received more misinformation on this
than I thought possible.  I have been trying to keep in touch with those who
have this on order but I would like to publicly apologise for passing on the
many incorrect ETA's from MS.  Any who have prepaid may have a full refund if
they so wish.  It seems the larger chain stores are first in queue. :(

    I would like to thank those who have helped with title selection and
competitive pricing.  Armed with this information I have been able to negotiate
better prices on some titles which have been passed on in full. Please keep up
the good work.

    Please feel free to suggest new titles to add to our catalogue.  We would
also like to hear from customers with reviews of titles that may be used in our
advertising.  In particular "A Hard Day's Night", since I'm so rapt in this CD
it's hard to be objective.

Thanks, Steve

Aesthetic Software P/L  PO Box 459 Gosford NSW, 2250 Australia
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From: MATT CULLEN                            Number: 12181
  To: CHIP SLATE                               Date: 01/14/94  7:06p
Subj: Re: Good Games.                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Thanks for the tip!
-Matt Cullen :)
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From: DARREN CLOUTIER                        Number: 12182
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/15/94  1:02p
Subj: King's Quest V                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

HELP! I am stuck! I have the amulet from Madame Mushka and can get to
the bridge in the dark forest (that crosses over to her house) but I
don't know how to get over to her house!  Leave any syggestions in my
mailbox PLEASE!

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 12183
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/17/94  1:15a
Subj: NEW NIGHT OWL                           Refer: NONE
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            N E W   N I G H T  O W L  11.  R E L E A S E

* Over 640 Meg's        * No Dupes       * No Dupes To Previous Versions
* All Zipped Files      * New Viewer     * 60% Files Released last 90 days
"Night Owl 11. "  offer's over 5,000 all new files and supports for areas
such as Windows, OS/2, Games, Fonts, Ham Radio, Lan, Business and more !
           Call Now And Get Your Copy ! - PRICE - $30.00
   Best Of The Best - Night Owl 11. + Cream Of The Crop II - $50.00

ORDERS ONLY!  US/CAN  800-243-0517  TEC/QUES 216-225-3263  FAX [phone]

Boris Osadciw

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From: BRIAN KELLER                           Number: 12184
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/16/94 11:45a
Subj: WING COMMANDER 2                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I would like to sell wing commander 2 on cd it comes with
the speach pack and special op 1 and 2 has all documentation
and is fairly knew selling it for $25.00 either e mail me
or call me at 1-203-431-6850 and ask for brian Thanx!

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From: BILL DEVRIES                           Number: 12185
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 01/16/94 12:00p
Subj: Re: !free Cd catalog!                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Joe Rinehart to All on 01-14-94  03:36 <=-

 JR> *********** FREE HUGE CD-ROM DISC & accessories CATALOG!*************
 JR> For the largest selection & lowest prices, get our NEW catalog...
 JR> If you'd like a printed copy, send your mailing information to us.
 JR> CATALOG FREQ: cdlist.zip (over 1,100 cd-rom disc titles available)44k

  Joe, please send a catalog to:

        B. Devries
        2200 Regent street
        Suite 606
        Sudbury, Ontario
        P3E 5S2
        Canada

        Tx.

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From: BILL DEVRIES                           Number: 12186
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 01/16/94 12:07p
Subj: Re: CD-Rom Catalog Availa               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 *** Quoting Jim Lambert to All dated 01-09-94 ***
 >                                Computer Works
 >     Online Orders               CD-Rom Sales            File Lists
 >                             [phone] Voice
 >     Visa                     [phone] BBS         Mastercard
 >
 > For everybody interested in great prices on the latest CD-Roms, we have
 > a catalog available

   Jim, please send a catalog to:

        B. Devries
        2200 Regent street
        Suite 606
        Sudbury, Ontario
        P3E 5S2
        Canada

        Tx.

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From: GORDON PETERSON                        Number: 12187
  To: KIRK BAXTER                              Date: 01/14/94  4:50a
Subj: World Atlas Programs                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

KB>> it. An _excellent_ disc, and infinitely better than the
KB>> Software Toolworks US and World Atlas disc.

KB>   Does Global Explorer give any city detail on major cities?

Yes, they show a number of major streets, for example, in Paris, and
details about lots of points of interests... museums, monuments, major
schools, etc. etc.

KB>Just how detailed are maps `[D, say of European countries -- how
KB>big do the cities have to be to show on the maps?    I guess one

I don't know specifically, clearly they don't show all of them but I
suspect they show smaller towns in less-populated places, for example.

KB>measure of the detail of their disk is how much data is on the
KB>CD.  Have they filled a CD with only 200 megs?

The CD is REAL full.  :-)  Actually, I consider it a miracle of sorts to
put so much stuff on just one CD-ROM.

KB>    With all the trips I make, such a disk would be real great
KB>to have, but I've grown cautious of disks which I have to buy
KB>sight-unseen.  It's an easy way to throw $90 away, so any other
KB>comments you'd have would be most appreciated.

Don't walk, RUN to the store and buy one.  :-)

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From: GORDON PETERSON                        Number: 12188
  To: DICK CRAVENS                             Date: 01/14/94  5:01a
Subj: CD ROM INFO           1/2               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

DC>Under Windows and OS/2, the CUA is supported fairly consistently, as it
DC>is more or less imposed on app designers by the design guidelines of the
DC>GUI. The Macintosh, while not technically CUA, has the same advantage
DC>for the novice user in that fairly strict interface guidelines almost
DC>guarantee that basic functions will follow the same command structure
DC>from app to app.

DC>As I stated above, it's not that this CAN'T happen in a character-based
DC>system, but that it DIDN'T. We can regret this all day long, but it's
DC>just a simple fact. The real winner is the novice user who can be
DC>productive fairly quickly, and not have to learn several arcane menu or
DC>command paradigms.

The biggest problems are ninnies like Lotus which have tried to FORCE
other people to make dissimilar, non-compliant look and feel.  A similar
and very frustrating problem exists in CD-ROMs where no two companies
seem to be able to agree on a similar search engine... the only solution
I've found is to use my GEPKAT to catalog CD-ROMs (takes a lot of disk
space, but neatly solves the problem of finding a file you're looking
for, across even a large number of discs, in a single and VERY fast
search operation).

DC>I'm sure it's more *efficient* by some definitions to query directly
DC>from the dot prompt in dBase, but jeez, I don't want to have to teach
DC>every $6.00/hour employee in the world how to do it. Does anyone else?

dBASE-type programs are not real hard to write, especially if you have
FoxBase and the really neat program generator it comes with.

DC>GP>You obviously don't know much about how cheap LANs are.

DC>Sure I do, and I know the performance hits taken by using cheap LANS.
DC>I've used LBL, and it's a fine product, but I wouldn't dare suggest it
DC>be used for enterprise computing.

It's a fine product for small offices.  I agree it wouldn't be a good
choice for a large company.

DC>The Bloody Red Box, for all its
DC>faults, offers distinct advantages.

Definitely.  But I'm not pleased with their CD-ROM sharing capabilities,
and I'm not willing to confine myself to just SCSI CD-ROM drives.  I
think the new Novell DOS 7 may solve this problem, at least I hope it
will.

DC>GP>So what's this nonsense about dedicating processors to tasks not
DC>being realistic!!??

DC>I believe I qualified it by stating "when applications must share
DC>information for local processing". LANs are slow, even Novell. If you're
DC>truly sharing data among multiple applications, the data needs to be
DC>local for maximum speed, not across the net.

Sorry, I don't agree with you on this matter.

DC>We do dedicate machines for specific tasks (peripheral sharing, test bed
DC>systems) but are not about to give every tech a machine for every major
DC>task they must complete during the support session. Even at the prices
DC>you've mentioned, that would still be more expensive than a high-end
DC>clone, which is what we provide.

I've found that high end machines are far less stable and long-term
reliable than stuff like the 386DX-40.

DC>BTW, have you figured in the hidden costs of inventory, purchasing,
DC>maintenance, accounting, repair, etc. for having multiple machines, much

You're not figuring the cost of downtime of that one, less-reliable
single machine... When it's down, your support tech is DOWN too.

DC>less the cost of building them in house, as some companies do "to save
DC>money"? These may not seem like issues for a few machines, or a few
DC>dozen, but try hundreds.

The cost of building them up is higher, but so is the money you save due
to the volume.  Plus, building up a lot of them that are similar makes
you better at doing it, so it costs you less to build each one as the
volume increases.

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From: GORDON PETERSON                        Number: 12189
  To: DICK CRAVENS                             Date: 01/14/94  5:01a
Subj: CD ROM INFO           2/2               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>>> Continued from previous message
DC>We've tried the low-end node route at work, and we keep coming back to
DC>the conclusion that the best solution for US (not the rest of the world)
DC>is to give our technicians a fairly powerful clone that supports the
DC>environment they need to serve our CUSTOMERS.

I'm glad you're happy, but I wouldn't generalize your solution to all
other customers!

DC>GP>Also note that having more processors gives you (conveniently) extra
DC>GP>bays into which you can install CD-ROM drives (for example, hard
DC>GP>drives work here too).

DC>Those points are well taken, but so far we've not run in to any of them
DC>specifically. I'm sure some of these issues will pop up as we move to
DC>more CD-ROM based technical databases (long overdue).

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From: GORDON PETERSON                        Number: 12190
  To: LOYD CRAFT                               Date: 01/14/94  5:16a
Subj: LD-R?                                   Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No

LC> > What I would _love_ to find for a project I'm working
LC> > on would be a writeable (-once) Laser Videodisc.  It would seem like
LC> > CD-R could be simply scaled up and allow making a machine that could
LC> > make one-off (CAV, in my case) laser videodiscs.  Sure would be
LC> > handy for the project I'm working on!!!   :-)

LC>I have a multimedia magazine sitting in front of me (from Summer '93) that h
LC>an ad for a laser disk system.    It is a video disk system that provides th
LC>same function as a Frame-accurate VCR does for desktop video editing (but wi
LC>much higher resolution).  I believe it is SCSI-controlled.

Neat!!  Can the computer read and write the individual video frames as
data records?  (Actually, I'd love to be able to get VGA images instead
of video vields out of the thing, too).

LC>The media is rewritable, and I believe is supposed to be readable in a stand
LC>video disk player.   There are two drawbacks to using it for "file" storage.
LC>The disk is addressed in video frames:
LC>HH:MM:SS:FF and is not usable as file storage.

ARGH... I would probably need to be able to read the images and process
them.  Or at least to be able to write them as computer data frames,
anyhow.  Hmmm... maybe not.

LC>The other drawback
LC>of course is the fact that it costs over $38,000.   <grin>

Actually, in the system we're talking about, that would not be a major
impediment to us.  Can you give me the address, fax number and other
contact information for that company, please?

LC>Such a system could be used to store individual graphic
LC>images, and "paged through" with a video disk player in freeze-frame.  Howev
LC>it would have to be an awful big project to justify such an expenditure.

In our project, that might still be very do-able, actually.

LC>Whatcha doing that you need so much space for?  I would shudder to think of
LC>much of a hard drive you would need to create the image of a "one-off" the s
LC>of a laser disk. :)

(Biting my tongue) can't tell you, yet.   :-)

 * SLMR 2.1 *


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From: LESLIE RHORER                          Number: 12191
  To: PETER SMINK                              Date: 01/17/94  3:01a
Subj: Re: Mitshumi Dual & sound               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 PS>> such a cd-rom that fits to my sb-pro? The dualspeed
 PS>> matsushita player works rather well (purchased recently).

 LR> Well, there are a number of real reasons why one might not wish to
 LR> do so, especially if running OS/2.

 PS> What is the problem with os/2 than?

        It is not a problem, but a limitation.  OS/2 can make full use of a 32
bit SCSI-II system, making a system with an EISA or MCA SCSI Host Adapter and a
SCSI-II drive much faster and more efficient than one with the drive(s)
attached to one of the 8 or 16 bit PIO SCSI controllers embedded in the sound
cards.

                                                        Les

When I was your age, hard drives were as big as pizzas!

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From: THE LAWMAN                             Number: 12192
  To: AMANDA HARRIS                            Date: 01/16/94 11:35a
Subj: Question                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> Speaking
-> of CD Roms, I have a problem in which I have been unable to solve eve
-> since I've had my CD Rom.  I have:  A:\  (3.5" drive)
->                                     B:\  (5.25" drive)
->                                     C:\  (345MB hard drive)
->                                     D:\  (245MB hard drive)
->                                     E:\  (Ram Drive)
->                                     F:\  (CD Rom)
->
-> I want my CD Rom to be drive E and my Ram Drive to be drive F.  I hav
-> tried changing the attributes on the CD Rom device driver but the Ram
-> Drive continues to force itself as drive E and displaces the CD Rom
-> drive as drive F.  Also, I have tried loading the CD Rom device drive
-> before the Ram Drive but it continues to force itself as the drive
-> letter of the CD Rom.  According to the MS Dos manual, the Ram Drive
-> suppose to become the drive letter after all physical devices.  Why
-> doesn't it treat the CD Rom as a physical device?  Have you encounter
-> this and is there a solution?
->
-> Amanda
->
->
-> --- WM v3.10/93-0044
->  * Origin: Rom Connection *Freq CD_SALES.ZIP for Current Catalog  (1:

You didn't put your config.sys and autoexec.bat settings here, but I
will assume this and see if it ain't true.

You have Device=C:\DOS\EMM386.EXE (and your ram statement and any other
settings ) probably near the top of the loading order of your config.sys
and then lower down on that list you have your Device=C:\DEV\MTMCDS.SYS
statement near the bottom of your config.sys statement, thats why its
loading your ram drive before your cdrom drive. I'm not really hip yet
on ram drives but assuming you are probably loading some of the drivers
in high memory, you'll have to have the ram drive first even if you use
qemm. If somebody knows different, let her know so I'll know.


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From: JOHN BARTA                             Number: 12193
  To: DONALD WEN                               Date: 01/16/94  8:28p
Subj: Wanted beatles cd                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

DW>First, you should tell us what CPU you have, memory, CD-
DW>ROM, and sound card.  This program does require a good
DW>amount of resource:

Intel 486DX2/66 with 32Mb memory - 540Mb hard drive - Diamond  Viper
VLB 2Mb video - Soundblaster Pro (not the newest one,) Sound Blaster
MPC single speed drive with single session Photo CD driver -  MSCDEX
2.23.  MS  DOS 6.2. windoze 3.1 with requisite extensions. Right now
can't tell you about my other drivers as I'm  not  on  that  system.

                                   John
___
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From: BILL ARRINGTON                         Number: 12194
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/17/94  2:19a
Subj: Guiness                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I have Guiness 1993 records and I am having problems running it.
It installs ok and runs fine to a point. That is when it shows a
clip or attempts to. The clip never does show and the screen never
goes back to the menu. I have tried both the VGA and the SVGA
options when running it. If I have it just do text searches it works
fine. I do run many others with no problems using the video. Anyone else  have
any problems with it. If so any solutions?


Bill //

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From: TRANE FRANCKS                          Number: 12195
  To: MICHAEL DAUM                             Date: 01/15/94  9:08a
Subj: GOOD SHAREWARE CD                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting - Michael Daum to Trane Francks, 13 Jan 94  12:50
 -=> Subject - GOOD SHAREWARE CD

 TF>stumble across Night Owl 10 locally

 MD> You do know that Night Owl 10 has a virus in one or two compressed
 MD> files.

Yes, I followed all the arguments about the CD-ROM very
closely here over the last month or so. ;-)

 MD> I think that Night owl 10.1 (or so) has taken care of
 MD> this.

That is my understanding as well.

 MD> I don't know what files have the virus, but know that they are there.

Confirmed:

SPORT21C.ZIP
SF2_UP.ZIP

Unconfirmed (mentioned in suspicion):

FUTURE1.EXE

I have blocked all three of them from d/l access. I still
think the CD-ROM was a good value as there are almost 660MB
of *good* files on it for one to choose from. ;-)

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From: POSTLINK#1758 (GAMEMASTER)             Number: 12196
  To: WILLIAM ROUNTREE                         Date: 01/17/94  1:08a
Subj: Message Not Exported                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Your Message to ALL with a subject of Night Owl CD's BBS
(#92) was not exported because this system does not export private
mail in this conference.  However, this site does export _routed_ private
mail in this conference, so you may wants--- FreeMail 1.10 alpha-3
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From: POSTLINK#1758 (GAMEMASTER)             Number: 12197
  To: GUY RICCI                                Date: 01/17/94  1:08a
Subj: Message Not Exported                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Your Message to TOM GUELKER with a subject of UFO CD Rom
(#94) was not exported because this system does not export private
mail in this conference.  However, this site does export _routed_ private
mail in this conference, so you may want$--- FreeMail 1.10 alpha-3
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From: DEREK STUTSMAN                         Number: 12198
  To: LESLIE RHORER                            Date: 01/15/94  3:32p
Subj: Re: kodak photocd                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Since you guys are talking about Photo CD's, can you tell me how much it costs
to have one made?  I asked the guy at the local drugstore, and got the expected
dumb look.



Derek Stutsman
 * Wave Rider 1.03 Beta # 153 *
... Large fries, pie, large coffee.  PRONTO!
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From: TOM HUNDLEY                            Number: 12199
  To: JUDITH NELSON                            Date: 01/17/94 10:21p
Subj: Re: TEXEL, MITSUMI CD-ROM               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

JN> JM> Has anybody out there heard anything bad or otherwise about Texel and
  > JM> Mitsumi  double speed (MPC-2 compliant) CD-ROMs?

JN>Hi Jerry.  I bought the Mitsumi FX001 double speed CDROM and the soundblaste
  >16 Multi-CD card.  Came to about $350.  Everything works great!  Software
  >I've tried includes:  OS/2 (cdrom), 7th Guest, Multimedia encyclopedia,
  >Wing Commander II, and others.  No problems.  I've  heard lots of things abo
  >Mitsumi drives, good and bad, but for  the price it was hard to beat!  Hope
  >this helps!
  >Judy

 I  ordered the Mitsumi FX001 and hope that it works ok. I would have
like a better drive but funds prevent it. I ordered a Encarda as my
first CD ( Other than a Compel Cd I got at one of Compel First Product
Shows). What other CD's would you  recomend on the must have list. I
heard that Rebel Assault is one of the hotest games right now and I would
have loved to get Microsoft Office but I told they stopped producing
them for the moment. Any ideas? Also I might be limited in what I can
use because I run with 4megs of memory on a DX-40 386 with a Super VGA
rather than a 24 bit card. Things I would love to correct if I had the
money. :-)

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 12200
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/17/94  6:00p
Subj: PRE-ORDER NIGHTOWL 11                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

        *****   PRE-ORDER NIGHTOWL 11  *****

  PCJ Computing is now accepting orders for the new
  Nightowl 11 CDROM disc.  4,378 Files - 650 Meg.

               OUR  PRICE  -  $28.95

  We should be shipping during the week of 1/24/94.
      Orders - 615-339-0235  FAX [phone]
   We also have most of the latest shareware CDs.

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From: DANIEL GRIFFIN                         Number: 12201
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/17/94  2:48p
Subj: cd drive                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I presently have a sound blaster 8 bit sound card and want to add a CD-Rom
drive to my system.  Should I buy a 16 bit sound card to go with the CD or is
the 8 bit card good enough.
Also, can anyone recommend the best double spin drive that is under $400?  I
am not make out of money (that's what my dad used to say) and would like to
keep it in that price range if I possibly could, but I don't want a crappy
drive.
thanks

******And now for another fabulous Tagline******
Newton's second law:  For every action, there is an equal and opposite...
government program!

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From: ALEXANDRE TOMA                         Number: 12202
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 01/14/94 12:01p
Subj: shipping cd's                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Joe,

Could you send these CD prices?

Women of Venus
King's Quest V
Loom
Secret of Monkey Island



Do you accept Mastercard? Is there any surcharge?

How much is shipping CD's to Brazil?

How long it arrives here?

Do you send via Small Package Air Mail?


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From: GARY HUFF                              Number: 12203
  To: LAURIE BATT                              Date: 01/16/94  6:40p
Subj: Re: NIGHT OWL 10 VIRUS REPORT           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 GH> Get real, friend.  Electras dated back to around 1960, and
LB>                                             ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
LB>
LB>                                          >>>>> long before <<<<<<<
LB> A little off-topic for this echo, but Lockeed were producing Electra's
LB> thirties (not the 4 engine version). I think from memory Amelia Earhea
LB> flying in one when she went missing on her round the world flight.

Yes, that's correct.  Of course, the 2-engine Electras of the 30s
didn't have the wing spar failure problems of the 4-engine turboprop
Electras of the 60s, and the 4-engine version was therefore the one to
which I was referring.  And you are correct:  Amelia Earhart's plane
that she was flying when she disappeared was a Lockheed Electra (the
2-engine version).  Hmmm... come to think about it, maybe the 2-engine
version DID have some spar problems???  :-)

 GH> Yes, and that's unfortunate for Nightowl, because it's also
 GH> being ignored that their disks are filled with a very fine

LB> Too true !

 GH>> Nightowl 11... or 12... or 13...  I'll bet they'll run
 GH>> every virus checker they can get their fingers on before
 GH>> they release them.

LB> It may still be possible that one will slip through. It is difficult t
LB> detect a virus when it is in the EXE program before it is pklited. If
LB> expected them to disassemble every program for virus checking, I think
LB> would only be releasing once a year as it would take them so long to c
LB> them all.

 Yes, that was exactly my point.  Of course you can release a 100%
virus-free CD IF you have a sufficiently large staff to completely
disassemble every program and run it in every configuration possible
(to catch those sneaky viruses that only assemble themselves when run).
One of the viruses on the Nightowl disk (found in the SPORT21C program)
would have been just about impossible to find without unzipping and
installing the program.  What company has the personnel to take apart
6,000 archives in a few weeks?


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From: GARY HUFF                              Number: 12204
  To: LAURIE BATT                              Date: 01/16/94  6:45p
Subj: Re: panasonic 562                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

LB> Hmmm this looks like we getting slightly off topic. AUDIO as such has
LB> to do with AC . I cannot hear AC (unless I connect it to a speaker) I

I'll bet you can hear AC as audio without a speaker!  Simply put your
ear close to any transformer.  The hum you hear is caused by AC.  You
can even hear large power transmission lines humming at an AC rate when
you're out in the quiet country.  No speaker there, either.  :-)

LB> Audio. Audio is a vibration of molecules in a medium which my ears det
LB> In Fact most in most amplifiers the Audio component is fed electricall
LB> not AC at all. There may be an Alternating component in the DC but it
LB> still DC. A transistor will not work on AC.

 But, of course, every single transistor that is amplifying audio is
capable of "working" on AC.  If you fed a 60-cycle AC signal into the
input of a transistor amplifier, I'll bet you a steak dinner that you
can hear 60-cycle AC coming out the speaker.  It had to pass through
those transistors somehow to get there.

I realize I'm playing with terms here, and that was my purpose.  I only
wanted to make the point that audio as we know it as it comes out of a
speaker was fed into that speaker as an alternating current ...
alternating at an audio rate.


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From: GABRIEL KLYBER                         Number: 12205
  To: MICHAEL MOSS                             Date: 01/17/94  1:14p
Subj: Lucas arts board                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 => Have you been able to connect to it at all, I have tried to as well, all I
=> get is garbage on the screen!

Have you tried a different baud rate or 7E1 instead of 8N1 (vice-versa)?
===
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From: DENNIS HOENICH                         Number: 12206
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/17/94 12:57p
Subj: Questions                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi,
I think I am about to take the plunge into the CD-ROM arena. I am
looking for a few recommendations. I already have an Adaptec 1542B SCSI
adapter to use with the drive and need a new sound card (currently have
an old 8bit mono Covox SoundMaster II) and a CD-ROM drive. I am looking
for a double spin drive around 300 ms seek time. I believe I want to get
a Sound Blaster 16 for the sound card. Any thought or recommendations on
these items? What about prices? What drivers am I going to need?
                                                Thanks for any and all
help,
                                                Dennis Hoenich
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From: DEREK STUTSMAN                         Number: 12207
  To: KENSHIN SAKURA                           Date: 01/16/94 12:49p
Subj: Re: The 7th Guest.                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

KS>     Well, that's sorta "cheating" in a way. I just want to finish the
KS>and the two clues don't help much. I know what to do, but I just can't
KS>succeed.

Well, good luck!  I have yet to meet anyone who has solved it on thier own.


Derek Stutsman
 * Wave Rider 1.03 Beta # 153 *
... Large fries, pie, large coffee.  PRONTO!
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From: JOE WALKER                             Number: 12208
  To: G CRONE                                  Date: 01/17/94  8:27a
Subj: Re: No Audio play                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting G Crone to All <=-

 GC> HELP !
 GC>
 GC> Can anyone figure out why my CD-ROM will not play audio CD's.
 GC> The disc spins and the programs say music is being played, but no
 GC> sound.
 GC>
 GC> Used with game or encyclopedia type of media (data) everything works
 GC> fine. Music, videos, etc all play nicely.
 GC>
 GC> There are no IRQ, DMA, or Base address conflicts.
 GC> CD-ROM is Mitsumi FX001-D, sound board is SB16 MultiCD w/ASP
 GC>
        Hi G.  I read the message that you may need to connect the
        sound cable from the CD drive to the sound card.  One other
        thing you need to check is the wiring for that plug.  I
        noticed that you are using the Mitsumi drive.  If you are using
        the SoundBlaster you will need to swap the two inside pins with
        the two outside pins on that plug.( Only on one end though.)
        The pin configuration on the mitsumi has the two hot wires
        going straight to ground on the sound card.  One way of checking
        this is to plug headphones into the audio output on the front
        of the CD drive, verify good audio without the plug connected,
        then plug in the cable.  If the sound goes away, you will have
        grounded out the audio amp in the CD Drive.  Swapping the pins
        around will solve this.

        Cheers,
        Joe

... Cheese food---------What cheese eats!
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From: JOE WALKER                             Number: 12209
  To: DOUGLAS BELL                             Date: 01/17/94  8:39a
Subj: Re: RECORDABLE                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Douglas Bell to DAVE REED <=-

 DB> DR· DB> I can offer the service of recording whatever you have need
 DB> of for DR· DB> $50 / cd-rom disk ..

        Hi Douglas.  I'm sorry to butt in but I would like to question
        some of the information you gave someone else.  Please correct
        me if I'm wrong.  You have the ability to record anything on CD
        in a standard directory format that will be able to run in any
        CD data drive?  Does this mean that I could send you all my
        commercial programs on a tape and you could transfer this to CD?
        It would be very nice to have all my installation disks on just
        one CD.  Are there any legal problems with this?  I don't have
        anywhere near 600 Meg of programs.  Can the disk be added to later
        when I purchase more programs?
        Thanks for the info.
        Joe

... Cheese food---------What cheese eats!
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From: CHARLIE COFFMAN                        Number: 12210
  To: CURTIS BURISCH                           Date: 01/17/94  2:01p
Subj: Re: Return To Zork Memor                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Way back in Jan. '94 Curtis Burisch is reported to have said:

CB>As always with insufficient memory problems, I recommend
CB>QEMM386! How's 630k free sound?!

I've got 634k free under OS/2 without doing anything special. ;-)
___
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From: RON KNIGHTS                            Number: 12211
  To: TERRY BLOUNT                             Date: 01/17/94 10:22a
Subj: Re: Quicken Cd                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Terry Blount to Tom Miller <=-

 TB> Tom Miller wrote in a message to Terry Blount:

 TM> Terry, have you seen Quickens CD yet?  Suppose to sell for
 TM> around 70.00?

 TB> Haven't heard of it... why don't you buy a copy to put on this bbs so
 TB> everyone can call and download from it?

 TB> -!- timEd-A10c
 TB>  ! Origin: Center  of  the  Cosmos   205-824-2611 (1:3625/441)

I've seen the Quicken CD at Computer City. I guess it offers some more stuff
that isn't found on the disk versions. I wasn't really interested, and didn't
look at the box much.

My job was to answer questions concerning pricing and availability, and
answer questions on the floor. No one ever asked about it.


... I used to know what I was doing. I think?!
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From: MATTHEW HENNIG                         Number: 12212
  To: JASON NEW                                Date: 01/17/94  6:04p
Subj: Rebel Assault                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

JN>HI everyone, I was wondering if anyone out there can help me get this game
  >running.I've tried every combination I can think of, but all that happens wh
  >I try to run the Rebel config program is that the system crashes, or sometim
  >I get a divide error.I can't run the Assault program with any parameters
  >either, things just crash on me.

I got RA to work fine on mine after changing one little part.  I load
himem.sys, but not emm386.exe.  The game has it's own managers so you
might make a boot disk that has only himem and references to your cd-rom
and sound card.  I end up with around 480-500 conventional memory, but
the game works great.

Matthew

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From: BRYAN BURTON                           Number: 12213
  To: ROY FUNG                                 Date: 01/17/94 12:48p
Subj: Reveal Cdrom                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

RF>Anyone with the Reveal CDRom able to load MSCDEX high?

RF>I would appreciate hearing from you, what switches you used, etc.
RF>Thanks.


RF>... "I'd love to help you out.  Which way did you come in?"  -- Groucho
RF>--- FMail 0.96Γ
RF> * Origin: Software Heaven [phone] Tampa, Fl (1:377/41)

Roy,
   I loaded MSCDEX high by using DOS 6.2 Memmaker!  It works great.


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From: BRYAN BURTON                           Number: 12214
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/17/94 12:48p
Subj: Carmen Sandiego                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I got Where in the world is Carmen...Deluxe
in the software bundle that came with my Panasonic 563.
The problem is when I get evidence on the answering machine,
I hear nothing. I have a 486/50, 4meg ram, Dos 6.2.
What could be the problem?:(
I get the sound from everyting else.
Thanks in advance!!!!!!!:)
                          _
                         I_>
                         I_>ryan



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From: JOEY SUNDAY                            Number: 12215
  To: JOHN ULLMER                              Date: 01/17/94  2:39p
Subj: Re: CD-rom by dreative                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

JU> -=> Quoting Nathan Mccarthy to All <=-

JU> NM> Ok here is my problem.  I have a creative cd-rom
JU> NM> double-spin with 6 megs of ram and I just got the game
JU> NM> Cyber race but when I type the exe it says it can't run
JU> NM> from protected mode.   If anyone has any ideas please
JU> NM> please respond/.



JU> NM> Spidey

JU>        So maybe it has to run under WINDOZE.

Nope, try using a boot disk, but make sure it doesn't load any Memory
managers. Protected mode is the state a Mem. Manager puts a 384 or
higher chip into.

-Joey

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From: JOEY SUNDAY                            Number: 12216
  To: KENSHIN SAKURA                           Date: 01/17/94  2:46p
Subj: Re: T7G maze                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

KS>*** Quoting Jeff Key to Kenshin Sakura ***

KS>JK> Well, to tell you the truth, I 'cheated'..  I couldn't win for
KS>JK> the life
KS>JK> of me..  So I got some of my non-computer literate friends that
KS>JK> were
KS>JK> supposedly good at reversi to try it and they couldn't either..
KS>JK> so I
KS>JK> finally resorted to going to the library clue book 3 times..
KS>JK> after 3
KS>JK> times, it says 'They puzzle is solved!' so if you can't get it..
KS>JK> just
KS>JK> do that..  trust me..  I tried MANY, MANY times..  oh well..
KS>JK> good luck!

KS>     Hmmm, well from what people have told me in this base, it seems
KS>that this  puzzle is virtually impossible to solve normally.... I
KS>don't think it's fair  for them to put such a hard puzzle in the
KS>game, one without a solution.

 What, the maze? It has a solution, I have solved it. It's too long to
post though, but a hint is, head straight down to the 2nd to last branch
from the main corridor. It's in that turnpike. Try maping it out and it
can be solved.

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From: BENJAMIN SMITH                         Number: 12217
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/15/94  1:09a
Subj: Nightowl 10                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Does anybody know if it's true about Nightowl 10 having viruses on it?
If so...Does anybody know what the specfic files are? I heard there were
3 or 4 files infected on it...


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From: AL BRATLIE                             Number: 12218
  To: HUGH CRAIG                               Date: 01/14/94  4:47p
Subj: New CD Technology                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 HC> I can understand your plight! However if that continues to be your
 HC> attitude you'll never get a CD player!

 HC> As you probably well know 2x drives have dropped drastically in
 HC> prices. From , what, 500-1000 bills down to 195-400, depending on
        Well, I understand the 'nature of the beast' when it comes to computer
technology. Heck, I bought a 5 1/4" floppy drive for my Atari 400 for $500!
Of course that was back in 1982, and things have changed.
        When it comes to CD technology, it would seem that there is something
a little different than some other technologies, names the rate of change.
A new microprocessor becomes 'affordable' every 3 years or so, or at least
that seems to be about right for the 8086-80286-80386-80468-80586 line. I
don't really have a problem with sticking a new MB in my case every few years.
However in the short time I have been following CD-Rom drives (since about
last june) there have been at least 4 upgrades, and from what I read elsewhere
there are more soon come.
  The unusualy fast growth of the technology, coupled with the relativly small
number of titles that 'really' exploit the technology, and recent comments by
some program makers about minimum speed requirements, make me shout WAIT! I
will most likely buy a CD-ROM drive sometime this year, (assuming I have a
job :) For the time being I can wait it out, it's not like I have the time to
use it now anyway :(
        For every purchase there seems to be an optimal time to jump, I just
don't think that time has come yet.

 HC> Good Luck and may we all avoid the 8 track tape players of the future...
        Hey ! I have one of those! An 8 track BOOM BOX to be exact...
 Later,
        Al

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From: MICHAEL GUIDRY                         Number: 12219
  To: HALL STEVENSON                           Date: 01/17/94  7:12p
Subj: Mitsumi Cd-rom Questions                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On 14 Jan 94, Hall Stevenson stated to All:

HS>I recently bought a Mitsumi FX001D cd-rom and have a few
HS>questions.
HS>        First, the driver (mtmcdae.sys) is dated 7-14-93.  I think
HS>version 1.10, but I'm not sure.  Question: Is this the latest drive
HS>available?  I'd like one that hopefully would be smaller when loade
HS>into memory.  The line in config.sys for this driver is:
HS>             lh mtmcdae.sys /d:cdrom001 (?) /p:300 /a:0 /m:32 /t:5
HS>The problem is that this takes up 78k of my high memory.  I know th
HS>reducing the /m switch would help, but that would also reduce
HS>performance, right?

I've got the LU005.
My mtmcde.sys is dated 3/5/93 and is 19k.  Works fine with dos 6.2.
Don't know how you take up so much memory.  I use the /x switch that puts
the buffers into extended [expanded?] memory. Try that. FWIW here is mine:

DEVICEHIGH C:\DEV\MTMCDE.SYS /d:MSCD001 /P:300 /A:0 /M:32 /T:S /I:10 /X


HS>        Second, this drive does not use an SCSI interface, right?
HS>it use an AT bus interface?  The reason is, I cannot use smartdrive
HS>cache this drive, correct?  If not, what caching program can I use?
HS>I've read that Norton's Speedcache will work, but I'm not positive.

It's not scsi, but proprietary.  Don't think that matters as far as
caching as long as you have the latest smartdrive.  You may need to set a
swtich.  I got it to cache, but don't remember how.


HS>        Finally, how do I connect the drive so that I can hear musi
HS>through the SB Pro?  Right now, the line-out wire goes to the cd-ro
HS>drive's interface card's line-in connector.  As it is, I cannot hea
HS>audio disc's sound through the sound card and amplified speakers.
HS>that I'd necessarily want to, but I assume if a had a game with mus
HS>that I would not hear it then, right?  Should I connect this wire f
HS>the cd-rom drive to the SBPro's cd-in plug?

Sounds like you have it backwards.  Run an audio cable from the audio outs
of the drive to the line in on the sound card.  I did it on my pas16 and a
friend did it that way on his SB16.


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From: DAVID BAIRD                            Number: 12220
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/17/94 10:37a
Subj: Accessing CDROM over Lantastic          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

* Crossposted in CDROM
* Crossposted in TECH
* Crossposted in CDROM
* Crossposted in DR_DEBUG
Hello All!

I have a user who is running Lantastic for Windows and wants to be able to
access his CDROM over his Lantastic network.

But here's the problem, both of his nodes are configured as Servers so he can
use the Hard drives on all the machines from either one.

Is there a trick to getting the Access programs to run over the network?
I have the latest version of MSCDEX from Dos 6.2 available if that helps.

David

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From: JAMES PORTER                           Number: 12221
  To: RICHARD MAY                              Date: 01/16/94 11:59p
Subj: SCSI vs. IDE                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

RM>   I think perhaps you are misled.  First of all, you will not realize a
  >significant speed increase with SCSI.  While SCSI fast-wide has a higher
  >transfer rate than IDE, 20MB a sec vs. 11.1 for IDE, The SCSI controller mus


First of all where do you get your numbers? I have drive specs for many
drives.  I have seen NO IDE drive rated higher than 4.5 meg/sec from the
Manufacturer.  SCSI-2 is rated at 10 meg/sec max and ONLY SCSI-3 is
rated to 20 meg/sec


RM>Most hard drives in use nowdays (like Maxtor 212's or Quantum LPS 240's will
  >not run ANY faster on local bus controllers nor will their SCSI counterparts
  >go *any* faster, irregardless of bus design.

RM>   Food for thought.  I hate to sound arrogant but SCSI-for-the-end-user is
  >aimed at people with more money than brains...


Bus design does indeed make a difference as does whether you use IDE,
SCSI-1, SCSI-2 or SCSI-3........

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From: MICHAEL MURPHY                         Number: 12222
  To: KEVIN RICH                               Date: 01/17/94 11:40a
Subj: question                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On (15 Jan 94) Kevin Rich wrote to All...

 KR> I just put a CD ROM on line for my users. I keep seeing things about a
 KR> "Caddie" can someone explain to me what this does, or it's function
 KR> please.
 KR>

Well, I see you got a better CD-ROM drive than I did.  A caddie is something
that holds the CD in.  On your drive, you probably push a button, and have
this CD "holder" come out.  Then you place the CD on it and push it in.  Well,
on mine, it's different.  I have something like that but mine is removable and
has a cover (which is the biggest hassle!).  So, insted of laying my CD on
a flat holder, I have to take it, open it, place CD inside, close it, then
push the bulky thing back inside.  That is what a caddie is.  Go to a store
(like Best Buy or someplace like that) and ask them for a caddie.  You'll see
exactly what I'm talking about.  That's what I have to shove into my drive
every time!
Hope this helps
Michael

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From: BAYANI CUSTODIO                        Number: 12223
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/16/94  4:11p
Subj: NEC CDROMs                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I've just been looking at the external NEC-CDROM drives, double spin
variety. I was wondering how SCSI complilant their adapter is? Can I
hook it up  to my IN-2000 controller without any problems at all?

See yah later
Bayani

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From: RAY MATTHEWS                           Number: 12224
  To: HENRY HACHE                              Date: 01/17/94  8:39p
Subj: t7G help needed (Again :)               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 HH> Now for my question:  I've done all the puzZles.  re-visited all the
 HH> rooms, now what?  I can't find anymore rooms or puzzles.  And I have
 HH> really looked!

    The ending to the game is in the attic. If you look at the map for the 2nd
floor, the attic is shown as a circular staircase on the top-left portion of
the map. If you cannot open the door to the attic, then you have not found (and
completed) all of the puzzles on the other floors. If you can open the door,
then you're almost home!

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From: MICHAEL DAUM                           Number: 12225
  To: G CRONE                                  Date: 01/17/94  1:54p
Subj: NO AUDIO PLAY                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

GC>HELP !
GC>
GC>Can anyone figure out why my CD-ROM will not play audio CD's.
GC>The disc spins and the programs say music is being played, but no
GC>sound.
GC>

Are you going direct from the CDROM to the SB16?  Or are you useing the
Mitsumi interface.

Also, load everything in conventional (not high) and see if it works.



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From: JONATHAN CHAU                          Number: 12226
  To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                       Date: 01/17/94  8:00p
Subj: ENCYCLOPEDIA                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

The date was 01-13-1994...  BRICE FLECKENSTEIN mumbled something to
NANCY DAVIN...

BF>  Encarta is the prettiest, Grolier's is the "most respected" based
BF> on factual content.

What about Compton's?  (yikes!)

Jonathan.  [Team OS/2]


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From: JONATHAN CHAU                          Number: 12227
  To: HAYDEN BRADSHAW                          Date: 01/17/94  8:07p
Subj: Canadian CD Catalogue                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

The date was 01-15-1994...  HAYDEN BRADSHAW mumbled something to
ALL...

HB> Thank you.  Your response has been overwhelming regarding our
HB> price list!  As you know our listing is available on Internet via
HB> zipped file or by ground mail on floppy.

I'd appreciate it if you could send me a copy, preferably UUencoded to
my Internet address below.

Thanks!

Jonathan.  [Team OS/2]
Internet - [e-mail]


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From: ROGER SMITH                            Number: 12228
  To: BRIAN GREGORY                            Date: 01/17/94  8:33a
Subj: OS/2 and CD-ROMS                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No


 BG> Anyone having problems installing OS/2 for Windows from CD?  If so,
 BG> pretty much forget about support from IBM, it's almost non-exsistent
 BG> to say the least.

They may be a little overwhelmed right now.  Since December, OS/2 has been the
best selling operating system.  I don't think they expected that this soon.

When they are able to "catch up" things will be better.  In the mean time, you
can get excellent help from the NSC BBS at 404-835-6600, several international
FidoNet echos, and probably a local echomail conference or BBS.

-- Roger

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From: ROGER SMITH                            Number: 12229
  To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                       Date: 01/17/94  8:38a
Subj: ARCHIVAL CD DEVELOPMENT                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No


 >> It would be great if archival CD's  would include 4DOS descript.ion
 >> files

 BF>  Not really - while 4DOS is a nice utility, there are VERY few folks
 BF> that use it. Windoze and/or OS/2 icons would make more sense....

Don't forget that Norton Utilities includes NDOS which is really 4DOS.  In any
case, DESCRIPT.ION files are just simple text files similar to FILES.BBS so
they are not difficult to create.

BTW, Walnut Creek's CDROMs do have 4DOS/NDOS descriptions as well as an NCD
data file.  Very nice ....

-- Roger

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From: KYLE MACHULIS                          Number: 12230
  To: JASON WAGNER                             Date: 01/12/94  4:29p
Subj: Re: JourneyMan Project                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

          Jason Wagner wrote 
 ╒═══════════════════════════════╕
▐█▓Hmmm... well, its not <G>  I keep getting this stupid graphics
▐█▓error with a () and some number or something like that.  Whenever
▐█▓I try to install it, it gives me this error, and whenever I try to
▐█▓play it (off the CD, I mean, without it installed), it exits to
▐█▓DOS!  I don't have a sound card yet... is that the problem or am I
▐█▓like many other people, needing an updated video driver?

Might that error be GetPixel()? It should be something like that.
Just get an updated video Driver, and if that doesn't work, call
The company who made the game....


▐█▓Thanks for the rundown, but I think I'll keep this one ;-)
▐█▓I pretty much fainted when I saw the BMPs in the PROMOBMP dir, and
▐█▓cannot even imagine such graphics being in full-motion video,
▐█▓except maybe on a SGI machine or a Cray!
 ╘═══════════════════════════════╛

 The ones on Sherlock Homes are MUCH bigger and better. But don't say
 I didn't warn you...
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From: KYLE MACHULIS                          Number: 12231
  To: STEVE PESANT                             Date: 01/12/94  4:31p
Subj: Re: CD-ROM/Soundcard Questions          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

          Steve Pesant wrote 
 ╒═══════════════════════════════╕
▐▓▐Don't waste your MONEY on upgrading other soundcards...You can buy an
▐▓▐ORIGINAL WAVE SYNTHESIS SOUND CARD for $160 (Canadian). Why go out and
▐▓▐buy a SoundBlaster 16 for $150+/- and then spend another $170.00 to
▐▓▐upgrade it to the same thing an UltraSound can do?!?!? Waste of
▐▓▐money...If you've got that much extra money floatin' around...Send me
▐▓▐some <grin>
 ╘═══════════════════════════════╛

 The SB16 would be more in the range of $200+/-.... And BTW, just what
 is a wave recognition table card for? I've seen them but never really
 figured out what they where for.
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From: KYLE MACHULIS                          Number: 12232
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 01/12/94  4:37p
Subj: Re: CD-Rom Catalog Available            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

          Jim Lambert wrote 
 ╒═══════════════════════════════╕
▄▒░For everybody interested in great prices on the latest CD-Roms, we
▄▒░have  a catalog available for download from Computer Works that lists
▄▒░each  title, price and description.  You can download on the first
▄▒░call.  We will mail a list of titles and prices to anyone requesting a
▄▒░copy and  posting their address or calling us voice.
 ╘═══════════════════════════════╛

 Please send one of your catalogs to:
 Kyle Machulis
 Rt.2 Box 3440
 Bartlesville, Ok 74003
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From: KYLE MACHULIS                          Number: 12233
  To: KEVIN O'BUCKLEY                          Date: 01/13/94  7:59p
Subj: Re: CHOICES!!!                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

          Kevin O'Buckley wrote 
 ╒═══════════════════════════════╕
░▌█Should I buy The Seventh Guest or Return to Zork?
 ╘═══════════════════════════════╛

 Buy Return to Zork, and wait for Seventh Guest 2: 11th Hour to come out (I
 think it already is..)
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From: KYLE MACHULIS                          Number: 12234
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/13/94  8:02p
Subj: Consumer Eletronics Show...             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

   Did anyone get a chance to go to the winter Consumer Eletronics Show
   in Las Vegas? If so, please post some info on what you saw!!
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From: KYLE MACHULIS                          Number: 12235
  To: ANDREW BISHOP                            Date: 01/16/94  3:48p
Subj: Re: Lots 'O Questions!                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

          Andrew Bishop wrote 
 ╒═══════════════════════════════╕
▄▐▒Seventy saved games in Return to Zork chewed up over 7 meg on my HDD.
 ╘═══════════════════════════════╛

 70???? Why do you need 70????
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From: KYLE MACHULIS                          Number: 12236
  To: JOHN ULLMER                              Date: 01/16/94  3:51p
Subj: Re: Lots 'O Questions!                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

          John Ullmer wrote 
 ╒═══════════════════════════════╕
▀▓█Hey, Kyle.  I do dumb things sometimes.  And I make mistakes
▀▓█sometimes,
▀▓█
▀▓█BUT I AIN'T BEEN DUMB ENOUGH TO MAKE THE MISTAKE OF WINDOZE!
 ╘═══════════════════════════════╛

 But you have to have Windows to run things like THE JOURNEYMAN PROJECT and
 Encarta.
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From: KYLE MACHULIS                          Number: 12237
  To: KYLE BROWN                               Date: 01/16/94  3:53p
Subj: Re: Good Games.                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

          Kyle Brown wrote 
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░▓▒I haven't seen a review or even screen shoots of either one of these.
░▓▒What type of games are these? Thanks

Lawnmower Man is based on and has graphics from the movie. It's a puzzle
based game. Myst is just like 7th guest, excpet with better graphics (belive
me, they are).

░▓▒Have you seen Under a Killing Moon by Access? Looks pretty good.
░▓▒Should be out now or soon.
 ╘═══════════════════════════════╛

 Haven't seen it yet. It will be out in April, though.
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From: KYLE MACHULIS                          Number: 12238
  To: G CRONE                                  Date: 01/16/94  4:17p
Subj: Re: No Audio play                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

          G Crone wrote 
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▄▐░Can anyone figure out why my CD-ROM will not play audio CD's.
▄▐░The disc spins and the programs say music is being played, but no
▄▐░sound.
▄▐░
▄▐░There are no IRQ, DMA, or Base address conflicts.
▄▐░CD-ROM is Mitsumi FX001-D, sound board is SB16 MultiCD w/ASP
 ╘═══════════════════════════════╛

 You have to use the headphone jack in the front of the CD-ROM. I had the
 same problem, and have the same (almost, I have a SB16 ASP) equipment
 you do.
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From: TAMI THOMPSON                          Number: 12239
  To: IAN BURRELL                              Date: 01/15/94  8:05p
Subj: Nat Geographic CD                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 IB> I have not been able to get the National Geographic Mammals  CD to
 IB> work. After typing GO (for the batch file), I get the opening
 IB> screen but the mouse will not activate the "BEGIN" button.  The
 IB> mouse is working OK (checked after
 IB> pressing F1 and using the mouse to cancel the inset menu that
This may sound strange, but do you have a Microsoft compatible mouse (v6 or
higher)?  We had the same symptoms, and picking up a cheap $10 mouse (MS
compatible) solved our problem.  It's a nifty CD - Good Luck!  -Tami

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From: JOHN RACKLEY                           Number: 12240
  To: GARY STIMPSON                            Date: 01/16/94  9:16p
Subj: Re: CD32 Titles 3/3                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Thanks for that list, I will pass it along to the local Amiga users who are
very interested in this information.


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From: VINCE SORENSEN                         Number: 12241
  To: STEVE FAIRBAIRN                          Date: 01/16/94 12:36p
Subj: SHAREWARE CDROMS                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> OS/2 or Macintosh shareware CDROMs suitable
-> for posting on a BBS?

   I have OS/2 Box, BBS Ready, for $35 Cdn regular, currently on sale
for $29 Cdn...

   Vince
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From: JEREMY ROLLINGS                        Number: 12242
  To: MATT DELCO                               Date: 01/15/94  9:44a
Subj: National Geo Animal Cd                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

MD>My mother has become interested in National Geographic's Animals CD.
MD>anyone knows anything about this program, or has used the CD, please
MD>us know what you think of it, and if it is worth if for $60.
MD>Thank you to everyone who responds.

I got this disk with my drive about a year ago. I enjoy it a great deal
but have to wonder if it's worth $60.

It does have CD audio (audio comes off the CD plyer, not out of a sound
card).

I do have to major problems with the disk: no audio during video clips
(standards like Microsoft Video For Windows wasn't out yet) and low res
picture: 320X200X256. Yuck. What an eye sore. It's a real shame since
the photos are great in terms of composition (what do you expect from
Nat Geo?)

I think I'd have to recommend against this disk. For about half the
money you can get The Software Toolworks' SAN DIEGO ZOO PRESENTS THE
ANIMALS, A MULTIMEDIA EXPERIENCE for DOS or MPC. It has high res
pictures (640X480X256) and audio with its video clips (now the standard
for CD-ROM's). I love this disk. I got it for about $30.00.

Have fun! Let me know if you have any questions.
Jeremy in Chicago

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From: DAN TURNER                             Number: 12243
  To: G CRONE                                  Date: 01/16/94 11:09a
Subj: No Audio play                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

GC>HELP !

GC>Can anyone figure out why my CD-ROM will not play audio CD's.
  >The disc spins and the programs say music is being played, but no
  >sound.

Gotta switch the pins on the audio cable. Just flop the outside ones and
then flop the inside ones. Gotta pry the backside of the connector up
just a little (careful they break easily) and pull the pins out.


I had the exact same problem with a SB MultiCD and a Mitsumi. Not quite
100% compatible.


dan

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From: JOHN ULLMER                            Number: 12244
  To: LOUISE NORTON                            Date: 01/17/94  2:40p
Subj: Re: Ferrets.                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Louise Norton to John Ullmer <=-

 LN> Gee john......youse is soo cuteee. how ever do you keep
 LN> yoursUkelf busy at night...I bet you have to take your
 LN> shoes off and try to count all 4 / / of your toes. with
 LN> nobody to make fun of it must be pretty boring for your pea
 LN> mind.SIn a message originally to Louise Norton, John Ullmer
 LN> said:

 JU> -=> Quoting Louise Norton to All <=-
 JU>
 JU> LN> Hello All.  We are starting a new project for entertainment in our
 JU> LN> household  this year....It is call project SAVE.  we have made
 JU> LN> arrangments to rescue all Ferrets brought into our Humane
 JU> LN> Society,  At present ANY Fwrret brought in is put to sleep
 JU> LN> without fail..  we have decieded to run a clearing house
 JU> LN> for all Ferrets ...keeping track of lost and found pets as
 JU> LN> well as saving those about to be put to sleep.
 JU>
 JU>  If you have a used or unwanted Ferret
 JU> LN> PLEASE leave us a line here and we will get back to you.
 JU> LN> Thanks ever.  LOUISE
 JU>
 JU>
 JU>        Sounds like a plot for a Disney movie, but I don't
 JU>        think it'll made a very good CD-ROM game.
 JU>

        What you do or want to do with ferrets is your business.  My
        comment above assumed you knew you were in a CD-ROM Conference,
        in which CR-ROM material is discussed.

        Apparently you didn't, and don't know where you are.




 LN> -!- LoraBBS-OS/2 v2.34+
 LN>  ! Origin: Moonlight Delight BBS (1:344/81)



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From: JOHN ULLMER                            Number: 12245
  To: VIC HLUSHAK                              Date: 01/17/94  2:48p
Subj: Re: T7G HINT                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Vic Hlushak to All <=-

 VH> I need a hint on the spider puzzle in Seventh Guest.  If anyone has
 VH> done it please give me a clue, (hint only)  as I would like to finish
 VH> it myself.

 VH> Thanks

 VH> Vic

        Hi Vic.  You have to use the points of the star to move the seven
        spiders to a new destination.  Each spider has two possible
        destinations.  Each of the seven spiders must be moved to a new
        destination.  There must be one open star point when all 7 have been
        moved.  May I suggest leaving the top point of the star open.

        Hope that qualifies as a hint.  Good luck!




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From: JOHN ULLMER                            Number: 12246
  To: JIM RICHARDS                             Date: 01/17/94  2:51p
Subj: Re: What's wrong with ec                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Jim Richards to All <=-

 JR> What is wrong with this echo. On S&G BBS most messages are
 JR> repeated multi times and many have the header but no text
 JR> in the body.
 JR> Are others having the same problems?
 JR>
 JR> Regards: jr
 JR>
        Not here in San Antonio.  Most messages have MORE than
        enough text in the body.




... Please don't rune my day.
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From: JEFF BUCKLAND                          Number: 12247
  To: KENSHIN SAKURA                           Date: 01/17/94  3:18p
Subj: RE: THE 7TH GUEST.                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Well, there are a lot of solve files around, I will upload one here on this BBS
under the name T7GHINTS.ZIP, it has the solves to all of the puzzles, I think.
A little cryptic, but it works.  I also downloaded a finished save game off of
the Leech BBS, and I'll upload that here for you, too. it will be under the
name 7G_DONE.ZIP.

BTW, that's one hell of a monster system.  Only if I had a 486 chip... (I have
a 386sx33, I played it on a 486dx33).

Jeff

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From: JOE BEELS                              Number: 12248
  To: CHRIS ANSELL                             Date: 01/16/94  8:54a
Subj: write to cdrom                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

*** Quoting Chris Ansell to Everybody dated 01-13-94 ***
> Hi everyone, i was just wandering if ANYONE knew if a date has been
> mentioned when cd roms will become writable, ie transfer files from
> hard disk onto the cd. I know at the moment this technology is very
> pricey and used only by professional companys, but let's face it, this
> is the next big step in cd rom development. I know that cd rom

Drives that write CD ROM are available here in the US for about $3,400.00
not too bad if you want to offer write services..a little advertising and you
could probably realize payback inside of a year. Seems commercially viable to
me....

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From: DAN TURNER                             Number: 12249
  To: G CRONE                                  Date: 01/16/94 11:09a
Subj: No Audio play                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

GC>HELP !

GC>Can anyone figure out why my CD-ROM will not play audio CD's.
  >The disc spins and the programs say music is being played, but no
  >sound.

Gotta switch the pins on the audio cable. Just flop the outside ones and
then flop the inside ones. Gotta pry the backside of the connector up
just a little (careful they break easily) and pull the pins out.


I had the exact same problem with a SB MultiCD and a Mitsumi. Not quite
100% compatible.


dan

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From: KENT TIMM                              Number: 12250
  To: JIM RICHARDS                             Date: 01/15/94  5:09p
Subj: Re: What's wrong with echo              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Stardate: 14 Jan 94  11:05. Jim Richards send to All by subspace.
 JR> What is wrong with this echo. On S&G BBS most messages are
 JR> repeated multi times and many have the header but no text
I'm not seeing that here, but I have noticed a big drop-off on a number of
echos the past few days.
Some hub must be down, this echo usually has about 4 times what I just DLed..


... My hard disk is full! Maybe I'll try this message section thing.
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From: MARVIN TAM                             Number: 12251
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/16/94  7:03p
Subj: NextStep CDROM                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

My sis is trying to solve a problem with her Nextstep 486 system at work. They
are using the Next Supplied CDRom to load the newest version of the OS. Can
anyone direct me to a proper dos driver for this CD Rom? If I can find out it's
make and model that would be just as good. Appreciate the help. Thanks.

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From: STEVE GOYER                            Number: 12252
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 01/17/94 10:35p
Subj: !free Cd catalog!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

JR>*********** FREE HUGE CD-ROM DISC & accessories CATALOG!*************
JR>For the largest selection & lowest prices, get our NEW catalog...
JR>If you'd like a printed copy, send your mailing information to us.

Steve Goyer
1265 Babine Crescent
Prince George, BC
V2M 3X7


Thanks

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From: RON SAMUELSON                          Number: 12253
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 01/19/94  9:56p
Subj: Catalog "Cd Rom"                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hey Joe,
  Would very much like for you to send me one of your catalogs tht I've been
reading about on this conference.  Please send to the following:

  Ron Samuelson
   593 Woodbridge Drive
  Riverdale, Georgia   30274

                                  Thanks.

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From: DAVE DAVIDSON                          Number: 12254
  To: TERRY BLOUNT                             Date: 01/17/94 11:57a
Subj: Cream of the Crop II                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi Terry,

Can you tell me how one goes about accessing the !README.1ST file in the root
directory of "Cream" II?  I can't seem to access it with anything (including
"type").

Thanks for the help...

Dave

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From: ROY DAVIS                              Number: 12255
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/16/94  9:34a
Subj: Sound                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I have a MEDIA VISION Fusion CD16  with a Sony CDU 31A
.
I) But can only get sound out of one speaker!
2) When CD Rom 'The Animals' is run the speech and movements are poor & jerky!
.
Can anyone offer advice?
.
Autoexec reads C:\DOS\MSCDEX.EXE /D:MVCD001 /M:10 /E /V /L:I /e
Config reads   C:\FUSION16\MVSOUND.SYS D:3 Q:7 J:1 S:1,220,1,5
2nd line       C:\FUSION16\SLCD.SYS /D:MVCD001 /B:1F88 /M:p
.
Am using DOS 6.2
         Stacker 3.0 (Has always been stable )
         QEMM  7.0 ( Optimize says everything checks out OK )
.
Have checked cables, tried speakers with/without batteries.
.
I get error on command line when I add  ....  ,1,5 M to first line of Config
.
( Media Vision here in Melbourne Australia, requests a password before they
answer the phone! Guess it's a dealers only help line )
.
Thank you
Roy Davis.


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From: LAURIE BATT                            Number: 12256
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 01/15/94 10:31a
Subj: re N.O. files                           Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No

G'day Mike Shannon, In a message on <Dec 22>, you said :


 MS> Notice also that version 108 is on the disc, and it DOES
 MS> detect both the Butterfly and Memory Lapse viruses, or at

Scan 108 DOES detect the butterfly virus, However in this instance it was
undetectable by scan 108 and possibly others due to the fact that the EXE file
was infected BEFORE it was PKLITED and therefore effectively masking it. The
virus was not evident until the program is uncompressed (normally into memory
at runtime).


                                        Laurie

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From: LAURIE BATT                            Number: 12257
  To: JOHN TOMCZYK                             Date: 01/15/94 10:39a
Subj: !free Cd catalog!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

G'day John Tomczyk, In a message on <Jan 11>, you said :

 JT> Hi Joe!! Would you mind please sending me a copy of youre
 JT> catalog. Look forward to your reply....Regards, John

And how in the world is he to know where to send it to ???


                                        Laurie

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From: SAM LAMBROPOULOS                       Number: 12258
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/15/94 10:25p
Subj: 7th Guest                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I have a Creative CD drive 563 running off a SB16 card and was wondering
whether my 386SX-16 would be able to run 7th Guest.

My video card is a Trident 8900 with 1 meg with plenty of hard disk space
using doubleSpace.

Regards,
         Sam


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From: JASON TAYLOR                           Number: 12259
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/15/94  9:07p
Subj: new bbs                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

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       Remember online only between 10pm and 7am, 7 days a week.
  CLUB X. Where The Lights Dim, And The Arousment Begins.  BBS [phone]

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From: NICK ALLAN                             Number: 12260
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/09/94 11:38a
Subj: infocom game cd's                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello All!

I'm looking for a cd that has the Infocom games on it.  I remember reading
somewhere that all the infocom games were put on to a cd or two. If you know
anything about this cd let me know.

Do you get the hint booklets etc with it?

Nick

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From: NICK ALLAN                             Number: 12261
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/09/94 11:49a
Subj: encarta 1994 how much                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello All!

Can someone give me a price for the Encarta 1994 cd in Aust Dollars.

Thanks

Nick

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From: NICK ALLAN                             Number: 12262
  To: BRENDAN FARTHING                         Date: 01/09/94 11:53a
Subj: Australian Phone Disc                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Brendan!

Wednesday January 05 1994 04:04, Brendan Farthing wrote to All:

 BF> Does anyone out there have the Australian Phone Disc?

Yes got it here.

 BF> I have just bought one and it doesn't seem all it is cracked up to be. I
 BF> am having many problems with it and am wondering if anyone else has the
 BF> disc and is experiencing problems with it.

The only problem I had, was searching via a phone number.  When I rang the cd
makers, they told me how to do it correctly.  Havn't had any other problems
with it at all.

Nick

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From: NICK ALLAN                             Number: 12263
  To: KIERNAN HOLLAND                          Date: 01/09/94 12:00p
Subj: PhoneBook CDROM's                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Kiernan!

Monday January 03 1994 06:21, Kiernan Holland wrote to All:

 KH> Does anyone know if there is any way to keep phone companies
 KH> from selling CD-ROM's with your address, phone number and name??

The only thing I could suggest is have your information removed from the phone
book.  When a number is removed from the phone book. It doesn't appear in the
phone cd in Australia.

Nick

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From: JAN JACOBSEN                           Number: 12264
  To: DENIS COLEMAN                            Date: 01/11/94 10:19a
Subj: Free Cd Rom List                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

        Hello Joe
        Please Send Me A Free Cd Catelog List Of Cd's

        Jan Jacobsen
        10 pioneer ave
        O'Sullivan Beach 5166
        South Australia.

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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 12265
  To: DENIS COLEMAN                            Date: 01/02/94  2:23p
Subj: Shareware CD                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

CR>Right now I am considering changing the shareware CD on my BBS. I'm not
  >sure what the name of the older one is but it's about a year old. I also
  >know that lately Night Owl 10 has been having a bunch of problems. Can
  >anyone suggest which shareware CD to go after, I have heard of Pier,
  >Cream of the Crop, and Night Owl. That's just about all I've heard of.
  >Let me know the prices and where to buy them at, any help would be
  >appreciated greatly.

Hi Chad.  Top Drawer - Big Sky Rom II will be released very soon for
$19.  It is BBS ready and the producers have gone through a great deal
to ensure only the best files made it on the disc.  I think you will not
find a better shareware CD-Rom than Top Drawer.  Give us a call if you
are interested.

Computer Works                                          Jim...
CD-Rom Sales!
[phone] Voice
[phone] BBS      Online Orders, File lists, Catalogs

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From: DENIS COLEMAN                          Number: 12266
  To: DON WEIR                                 Date: 01/15/94 11:25p
Subj: Proud to Announce - New Dealership.     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi,

 >  DC> for Dr. CD-ROM CD's, following are the titles, and
 >  DC> i will be ordering a limited quantity very soon.

 >  DC> Dr. Sound Factory
 >  DC> Dr. AVI for Windows

 > What are the above titles about, in particular?

those two have not been released yet but i have some on order to be shipped
straight to me once their done, i can let you know then.

Denis

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From: DENIS COLEMAN                          Number: 12267
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/15/94 11:41p
Subj: CDROMS For Sale                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Payment :COD,CHEQUE,MONEY ORDER
Phone: [phone] after 6pm
Fax: [phone]

Qty.
5       Phoenix 3                               $23
4       Phoenix 4                               $29
4       So Much Modem Maddness! *NEW*           $34
3       So Much Shareware 2                     $27
6       Night Owl 10.0                          $40
1       Piers 2                                 $39

Special to sell Night 10.0, purchase Night Owl 10.0 and 1 more cd from the
above list and recieve a $10 discount. Will be shipped Overnight post for $3.

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From: GLENN BRADY                            Number: 12268
  To: NICK ALLAN                               Date: 01/16/94  1:16a
Subj: encarta 1994 how much                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Once upon a midnight dreary,
Nick Allan pondered, weak and weary,
Over many a quaint and curious volume of encarta 1994 how much.

NA> Hello All!

NA> Can someone give me a price for the Encarta 1994 cd in Aust Dollars.

$179.00 AUS for a short time (introductory offer) from most dealers. Ozzie
Discount Software is one that has it.

Hooroo for now
                 ?Glenn B.?


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From: MIKE KEAR                              Number: 12269
  To: GEORGE BARONE                            Date: 01/08/94  8:35a
Subj: Triple Speed Drive                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

George Barone was recently heard pontificating to All  about Triple Speed
Drive:GB >>@PID: RA 1.11
GB >>@MSGID: 1:141/451 52c3119a
GB >>Could anyone recommend a good triple speed drive, I am looking for
GB >>somehting that will not go out of date within 2 years like every other
GB >>hardware that I buy. Thanks


Hah!!  What a wishful thinker!      CD Rom is one of the fastest developing
areas of one of the fastest changing industries in the world - and you want
something that won't go out of date in 2 years?   The manufacturers of
computer stuff would be excited if they could release something that wasn't
out of date on release day.     ;->

Cheers,

Mike




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From: BRIAN VINSON                           Number: 12270
  To: JASON WILLIAMS                           Date: 01/13/94  5:51p
Subj: Re: Gus & Pas Info                      Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No

 -=> Quoting Jason Williams to Marcus Lee <=-

 > Who is the distributor for GUS?

 JW> I'm not sure if it's out yet - it's meant to be out before
 JW> Christmas...  I don't know if the GUS has a proper
 JW> distributor over here...  Your best bet, I think, would be
 JW> Electronic Arts (on the Gold Coast).

 Do you know of a distributor for the GUS in Sydney??
I have been following your conversation and I am thinking that
the GUS may be the better sound card to buy.

 I have been looking at the Omni Labs Audio Master or the
SB16 asp with the waveblaster option. As you see I think that to
by a sound card and not have the wavetable is a backward step.

 You talk about software updates and other programes
are these available on BBS in Sydney or do they come as standard
updates for the GUS.
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From: JOEL DUMAS                             Number: 12271
  To: DARA M.C. CLEMENKO                       Date: 01/14/94  9:24p
Subj: Re: NEC 3XI/SB16SCSI-2                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Dara M.C. Clemenko to Rob Belanger <=-

 DMC> You will need to purchase a AUDIO cable its not included in either
 DMC> package... The Soundblaster SCSI-2 and NEC 3Xi have been working great
 DMC> for  me... I screwed up though I did not purchase the ASP chip version
 DMC> of the  Soundblaster SCSI-2 Oh Well if I could ever find a vender I
 DMC> guess I will  have to get it..
 DMC> Later Pete

Could you tell me where you got them from and how much they costed you?
Planning on getting a decent sound card and CDROM drive soon.

Cheers,
Joel

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From: JOEL DUMAS                             Number: 12272
  To: JASON WILLIAMS                           Date: 01/17/94 10:20p
Subj: Re: Pioneer 6-disc CD-ROM               Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No

 -=> Quoting Jason Williams to All <=-

 JW> Does anyone know of a decent price for the fast Pioneer 6-disc
 JW> changer in Australia...
 JW> For the prices we've been quoted you can buy FIVE triple speed single
 JW> disc players...  $2500 ex tax...  There has to be someone sellin' them
 JW> cheaper...

Triple speed for $500...  Where can you get it this cheap?  I'll get one.
Please let me know as I'll be buying another drive.

Cheers,
Joel

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From: LAURIE BATT                            Number: 12273
  To: TODD BOWMAN                              Date: 01/16/94  8:29a
Subj: Re: CD-ROM audio outputs and            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

G'day Todd Bowman, In a message on <Jan 11>, you said :

 HG>> with the appropriate plugs at  each end.  I think it's
 HG>> 2.5mm jack on the CD or soundblasters

 TB> Hmm...  Would that be 1/8" in English?  By the way, what
 TB> country are you in?

What do you mean by "In English"
Most English speaking countries and also most of all the non-english speaking
use the metric system as a measurement, yours is one of the few in the world
that does NOT .


                                        Laurie

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From: LAURIE BATT                            Number: 12274
  To: BARRY RYDER                              Date: 01/16/94  8:51a
Subj: Cd-rom Drives+                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

G'day Barry Ryder, In a message on <Jan 14>, you said :

 BR> Gidday Joe,

 BR> On Jan 04 06:34 94, Joe Rinehart of 1:157/479 wrote:

 JR>> ********* Refurbished SCSI NEC Model 36   CD-ROM DRIVES
 JR>> $130 *********
 JR>> >>>INTERNATIONAL ORDERS WELCOME<<<

 BR> OK... what is that in $ Aus ?
Why not ask the bank that question or check in your local paper
I doubt Joe could give you an accurate answer on that as the exchange rate
changes every day.


                                        Laurie

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From: MALCOLM YOUNG                          Number: 12275
  To: KENNETH HASTY                            Date: 01/15/94  5:57p
Subj: Am I alone?                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi Kenneth,

 > I was wondering if anyone else has purchased the "Shareware
 > Extravaganza" 4 cd Pack from "The Ultimate Shareware Co." ?  If so, Have
 > you noticed difficulty in getting the damned things to work,

I have one of these sets and have noticed no problems, as the discs work
sometimes for you could it be a hardware problem or some software conflict.

Regards, Malcolm.

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From: STEVE DASH                             Number: 12276
  To: CHRIS ANSELL                             Date: 01/16/94  4:02a
Subj: Rebel Assult                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Tony Stott wrote to Chris Ansell on 01-03-94 20:59 =>TSOn 01-02-94
regarding Rebel Assault probs :-

CA>i was thinking about getting one of those
CA>multimedia oacks with the SB 16 card and the double speed panasonic cd
CA>rom. If this is your cd rom, could you pass on any opinions you have o
CA>it? Also, in the rebel assault manual, i noticed they provide an ideal
CA>config sys setup to run rebel assault. Even with this config of theirs
CA>does your copy still hang?

TS>Chris, I reckon the shop setup was suspect! I just made up a batch
TS>file to run rebel from the cdrom drive, and it worked, even with
TS>emm386 loaded. On my 486dx33 with Tsenglab EVA W32 card, Gravis
TS>joystick,SBPro and NEC 73M, the performance is terrific, and there
TS>have been no hangs or gliches. (PS I have 578k available conventional
TS>memory, out of a total 32Mb RAM)

I've got the SB16 dbl speed CD setup your thinking of getting. Running on a
486-25SX 12MBRam even under windows with a network running giving only 450K
Base mem free, Rebel Assault goes like a rocket and hasn't hung yet for me
yet. Personally I can't understand why they provide a config.sys setup
because it needs less memory than most new games. Admittedly I usually run
it from DOS no network though. The advantage of the SB16 over the GUS is
that EVERYTHING will work with it, no patches, work arounds/SB emulators
required. The only bummer is the price and that the SB16 has a propriety CD
interface (not SCSI) although there is a SCSI one available for a price...

Steve-D

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From: STEVE DASH                             Number: 12277
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/16/94  4:31a
Subj: ENCARTA - Get 'Microsoft                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Interesting to read a number of messages describing ENCARTA as great value,
one of the best, good on the multimedia etc...

After buying it for $200 I got it up and running - pretty flashy, then I
thought I might read up a bit about Australia. 2 hours later I took it back
for a refund. Why? well how about looking up these references:

(1994 edition)
Picture of Devil's Marbles - gives me a great picture/text of the Olgas!
Adelaide - described as on the Indian Ocean.
Woodville - mentioned as if it is a real city (no other city councils are
mentioned)
Parliment House Canberra picture - Well maybe 6 YEARS AGO!- the old one
Population Growth Rate of Australia (I was told by someone else was 20%
although the guy may have read this incorrectly)

What really gets me is the review in communica magazine praising Encarta as
a learing tool for learning english in Sydney (Uni?).

I suppose Microsoft will fix these 'bugs' in the next version. But then If
you'd buy products from the guys that gave you DOS and edlin then really you
shouldn't expect them to get it right anyway.

Steve-D

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From: CHRIS ANSELL                           Number: 12278
  To: EVERYONE                                 Date: 01/18/94 12:03a
Subj: Who has Hotstuff2?                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi all, i was just wandering if anyone out there has a copy of hotstuff2. it is
supposed to quite wicked in the animation and sound department.
Also, does anyone know when peter gabriel's interactive Xplora cd rom game will
be out for ibm?
cheers
chris ansell

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From: REINHARD KNORRECK                      Number: 12279
  To: LESLIE RHORER                            Date: 01/15/94  5:56p
Subj: Re: Mitshumi Dual & Sound               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

LR> GP> Why is it that so ma
LR> GP> seem to be so hung up on hooking their CD-ROM drive DIRECTLY t
LR> GP> sound board, for heaven's sake??!!
LR>
LR>        Well, two reasons, probably.  The informed user probably ju
LR>to save a peripheral slot.  The uninformed user probably is of the
LR>misapprehension that in order to use the CD and sound card together
LR>must be controlled by the sound card.
LR>
LR>                                                        Les
LR>
LR>--- EZPoint V2.2
LR> * Origin:   GUI?  Ptui!!!  ---  Last Chance Pt 4 (1:387/800.4)

    Thanks to remind me to use the misumi interface card instead of        the
sound card. RAM is now 633kb instead of 593kb before.

    Reinhard.
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From: DAVE DAVIDSON                          Number: 12280
  To: TERRY BLOUNT                             Date: 01/17/94 11:57a
Subj: Cream of the Crop II                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi Terry,

Can you tell me how one goes about accessing the !README.1ST file in the root
directory of "Cream" II?  I can't seem to access it with anything (including
"type").

Thanks for the help...

Dave

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From: ROY DAVIS                              Number: 12281
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/16/94  9:34a
Subj: Sound                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I have a MEDIA VISION Fusion CD16  with a Sony CDU 31A
.
I) But can only get sound out of one speaker!
2) When CD Rom 'The Animals' is run the speech and movements are poor & jerky!
.
Can anyone offer advice?
.
Autoexec reads C:\DOS\MSCDEX.EXE /D:MVCD001 /M:10 /E /V /L:I /e
Config reads   C:\FUSION16\MVSOUND.SYS D:3 Q:7 J:1 S:1,220,1,5
2nd line       C:\FUSION16\SLCD.SYS /D:MVCD001 /B:1F88 /M:p
.
Am using DOS 6.2
         Stacker 3.0 (Has always been stable )
         QEMM  7.0 ( Optimize says everything checks out OK )
.
Have checked cables, tried speakers with/without batteries.
.
I get error on command line when I add  ....  ,1,5 M to first line of Config
.
( Media Vision here in Melbourne Australia, requests a password before they
answer the phone! Guess it's a dealers only help line )
.
Thank you
Roy Davis.


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From: LAURIE BATT                            Number: 12282
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 01/15/94 10:31a
Subj: re N.O. files                           Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No

G'day Mike Shannon, In a message on <Dec 22>, you said :


 MS> Notice also that version 108 is on the disc, and it DOES
 MS> detect both the Butterfly and Memory Lapse viruses, or at

Scan 108 DOES detect the butterfly virus, However in this instance it was
undetectable by scan 108 and possibly others due to the fact that the EXE file
was infected BEFORE it was PKLITED and therefore effectively masking it. The
virus was not evident until the program is uncompressed (normally into memory
at runtime).


                                        Laurie

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From: LAURIE BATT                            Number: 12283
  To: JOHN TOMCZYK                             Date: 01/15/94 10:39a
Subj: !free Cd catalog!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

G'day John Tomczyk, In a message on <Jan 11>, you said :

 JT> Hi Joe!! Would you mind please sending me a copy of youre
 JT> catalog. Look forward to your reply....Regards, John

And how in the world is he to know where to send it to ???


                                        Laurie

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From: SAM LAMBROPOULOS                       Number: 12284
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/15/94 10:25p
Subj: 7th Guest                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I have a Creative CD drive 563 running off a SB16 card and was wondering
whether my 386SX-16 would be able to run 7th Guest.

My video card is a Trident 8900 with 1 meg with plenty of hard disk space
using doubleSpace.

Regards,
         Sam


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From: JASON TAYLOR                           Number: 12285
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/15/94  9:07p
Subj: new bbs                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

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From: NICK ALLAN                             Number: 12286
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/09/94 11:38a
Subj: infocom game cd's                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello All!

I'm looking for a cd that has the Infocom games on it.  I remember reading
somewhere that all the infocom games were put on to a cd or two. If you know
anything about this cd let me know.

Do you get the hint booklets etc with it?

Nick

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From: NICK ALLAN                             Number: 12287
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/09/94 11:49a
Subj: encarta 1994 how much                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello All!

Can someone give me a price for the Encarta 1994 cd in Aust Dollars.

Thanks

Nick

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From: NICK ALLAN                             Number: 12288
  To: BRENDAN FARTHING                         Date: 01/09/94 11:53a
Subj: Australian Phone Disc                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Brendan!

Wednesday January 05 1994 04:04, Brendan Farthing wrote to All:

 BF> Does anyone out there have the Australian Phone Disc?

Yes got it here.

 BF> I have just bought one and it doesn't seem all it is cracked up to be. I
 BF> am having many problems with it and am wondering if anyone else has the
 BF> disc and is experiencing problems with it.

The only problem I had, was searching via a phone number.  When I rang the cd
makers, they told me how to do it correctly.  Havn't had any other problems
with it at all.

Nick

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From: NICK ALLAN                             Number: 12289
  To: KIERNAN HOLLAND                          Date: 01/09/94 12:00p
Subj: PhoneBook CDROM's                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Kiernan!

Monday January 03 1994 06:21, Kiernan Holland wrote to All:

 KH> Does anyone know if there is any way to keep phone companies
 KH> from selling CD-ROM's with your address, phone number and name??

The only thing I could suggest is have your information removed from the phone
book.  When a number is removed from the phone book. It doesn't appear in the
phone cd in Australia.

Nick

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From: JAN JACOBSEN                           Number: 12290
  To: DENIS COLEMAN                            Date: 01/11/94 10:19a
Subj: Free Cd Rom List                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

        Hello Joe
        Please Send Me A Free Cd Catelog List Of Cd's

        Jan Jacobsen
        10 pioneer ave
        O'Sullivan Beach 5166
        South Australia.

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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 12291
  To: DENIS COLEMAN                            Date: 01/02/94  2:23p
Subj: Shareware CD                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

CR>Right now I am considering changing the shareware CD on my BBS. I'm not
  >sure what the name of the older one is but it's about a year old. I also
  >know that lately Night Owl 10 has been having a bunch of problems. Can
  >anyone suggest which shareware CD to go after, I have heard of Pier,
  >Cream of the Crop, and Night Owl. That's just about all I've heard of.
  >Let me know the prices and where to buy them at, any help would be
  >appreciated greatly.

Hi Chad.  Top Drawer - Big Sky Rom II will be released very soon for
$19.  It is BBS ready and the producers have gone through a great deal
to ensure only the best files made it on the disc.  I think you will not
find a better shareware CD-Rom than Top Drawer.  Give us a call if you
are interested.

Computer Works                                          Jim...
CD-Rom Sales!
[phone] Voice
[phone] BBS      Online Orders, File lists, Catalogs

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From: DENIS COLEMAN                          Number: 12292
  To: DON WEIR                                 Date: 01/15/94 11:25p
Subj: Proud to Announce - New Dealership.     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi,

 >  DC> for Dr. CD-ROM CD's, following are the titles, and
 >  DC> i will be ordering a limited quantity very soon.

 >  DC> Dr. Sound Factory
 >  DC> Dr. AVI for Windows

 > What are the above titles about, in particular?

those two have not been released yet but i have some on order to be shipped
straight to me once their done, i can let you know then.

Denis

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From: DENIS COLEMAN                          Number: 12293
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/15/94 11:41p
Subj: CDROMS For Sale                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Payment :COD,CHEQUE,MONEY ORDER
Phone: [phone] after 6pm
Fax: [phone]

Qty.
5       Phoenix 3                               $23
4       Phoenix 4                               $29
4       So Much Modem Maddness! *NEW*           $34
3       So Much Shareware 2                     $27
6       Night Owl 10.0                          $40
1       Piers 2                                 $39

Special to sell Night 10.0, purchase Night Owl 10.0 and 1 more cd from the
above list and recieve a $10 discount. Will be shipped Overnight post for $3.

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From: GLENN BRADY                            Number: 12294
  To: NICK ALLAN                               Date: 01/16/94  1:16a
Subj: encarta 1994 how much                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Once upon a midnight dreary,
Nick Allan pondered, weak and weary,
Over many a quaint and curious volume of encarta 1994 how much.

NA> Hello All!

NA> Can someone give me a price for the Encarta 1994 cd in Aust Dollars.

$179.00 AUS for a short time (introductory offer) from most dealers. Ozzie
Discount Software is one that has it.

Hooroo for now
                 ?Glenn B.?


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From: MIKE KEAR                              Number: 12295
  To: GEORGE BARONE                            Date: 01/08/94  8:35a
Subj: Triple Speed Drive                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

George Barone was recently heard pontificating to All  about Triple Speed
Drive:GB >>@PID: RA 1.11
GB >>@MSGID: 1:141/451 52c3119a
GB >>Could anyone recommend a good triple speed drive, I am looking for
GB >>somehting that will not go out of date within 2 years like every other
GB >>hardware that I buy. Thanks


Hah!!  What a wishful thinker!      CD Rom is one of the fastest developing
areas of one of the fastest changing industries in the world - and you want
something that won't go out of date in 2 years?   The manufacturers of
computer stuff would be excited if they could release something that wasn't
out of date on release day.     ;->

Cheers,

Mike




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From: BRIAN VINSON                           Number: 12296
  To: JASON WILLIAMS                           Date: 01/13/94  5:51p
Subj: Re: Gus & Pas Info                      Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No

 -=> Quoting Jason Williams to Marcus Lee <=-

 > Who is the distributor for GUS?

 JW> I'm not sure if it's out yet - it's meant to be out before
 JW> Christmas...  I don't know if the GUS has a proper
 JW> distributor over here...  Your best bet, I think, would be
 JW> Electronic Arts (on the Gold Coast).

 Do you know of a distributor for the GUS in Sydney??
I have been following your conversation and I am thinking that
the GUS may be the better sound card to buy.

 I have been looking at the Omni Labs Audio Master or the
SB16 asp with the waveblaster option. As you see I think that to
by a sound card and not have the wavetable is a backward step.

 You talk about software updates and other programes
are these available on BBS in Sydney or do they come as standard
updates for the GUS.
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From: JOEL DUMAS                             Number: 12297
  To: DARA M.C. CLEMENKO                       Date: 01/14/94  9:24p
Subj: Re: NEC 3XI/SB16SCSI-2                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Dara M.C. Clemenko to Rob Belanger <=-

 DMC> You will need to purchase a AUDIO cable its not included in either
 DMC> package... The Soundblaster SCSI-2 and NEC 3Xi have been working great
 DMC> for  me... I screwed up though I did not purchase the ASP chip version
 DMC> of the  Soundblaster SCSI-2 Oh Well if I could ever find a vender I
 DMC> guess I will  have to get it..
 DMC> Later Pete

Could you tell me where you got them from and how much they costed you?
Planning on getting a decent sound card and CDROM drive soon.

Cheers,
Joel

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From: JOEL DUMAS                             Number: 12298
  To: JASON WILLIAMS                           Date: 01/17/94 10:20p
Subj: Re: Pioneer 6-disc CD-ROM               Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No

 -=> Quoting Jason Williams to All <=-

 JW> Does anyone know of a decent price for the fast Pioneer 6-disc
 JW> changer in Australia...
 JW> For the prices we've been quoted you can buy FIVE triple speed single
 JW> disc players...  $2500 ex tax...  There has to be someone sellin' them
 JW> cheaper...

Triple speed for $500...  Where can you get it this cheap?  I'll get one.
Please let me know as I'll be buying another drive.

Cheers,
Joel

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From: LAURIE BATT                            Number: 12299
  To: TODD BOWMAN                              Date: 01/16/94  8:29a
Subj: Re: CD-ROM audio outputs and            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

G'day Todd Bowman, In a message on <Jan 11>, you said :

 HG>> with the appropriate plugs at  each end.  I think it's
 HG>> 2.5mm jack on the CD or soundblasters

 TB> Hmm...  Would that be 1/8" in English?  By the way, what
 TB> country are you in?

What do you mean by "In English"
Most English speaking countries and also most of all the non-english speaking
use the metric system as a measurement, yours is one of the few in the world
that does NOT .


                                        Laurie

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From: LAURIE BATT                            Number: 12300
  To: BARRY RYDER                              Date: 01/16/94  8:51a
Subj: Cd-rom Drives+                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

G'day Barry Ryder, In a message on <Jan 14>, you said :

 BR> Gidday Joe,

 BR> On Jan 04 06:34 94, Joe Rinehart of 1:157/479 wrote:

 JR>> ********* Refurbished SCSI NEC Model 36   CD-ROM DRIVES
 JR>> $130 *********
 JR>> >>>INTERNATIONAL ORDERS WELCOME<<<

 BR> OK... what is that in $ Aus ?
Why not ask the bank that question or check in your local paper
I doubt Joe could give you an accurate answer on that as the exchange rate
changes every day.


                                        Laurie

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From: MALCOLM YOUNG                          Number: 12301
  To: KENNETH HASTY                            Date: 01/15/94  5:57p
Subj: Am I alone?                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi Kenneth,

 > I was wondering if anyone else has purchased the "Shareware
 > Extravaganza" 4 cd Pack from "The Ultimate Shareware Co." ?  If so, Have
 > you noticed difficulty in getting the damned things to work,

I have one of these sets and have noticed no problems, as the discs work
sometimes for you could it be a hardware problem or some software conflict.

Regards, Malcolm.

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From: STEVE DASH                             Number: 12302
  To: CHRIS ANSELL                             Date: 01/16/94  4:02a
Subj: Rebel Assult                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Tony Stott wrote to Chris Ansell on 01-03-94 20:59 =>TSOn 01-02-94
regarding Rebel Assault probs :-

CA>i was thinking about getting one of those
CA>multimedia oacks with the SB 16 card and the double speed panasonic cd
CA>rom. If this is your cd rom, could you pass on any opinions you have o
CA>it? Also, in the rebel assault manual, i noticed they provide an ideal
CA>config sys setup to run rebel assault. Even with this config of theirs
CA>does your copy still hang?

TS>Chris, I reckon the shop setup was suspect! I just made up a batch
TS>file to run rebel from the cdrom drive, and it worked, even with
TS>emm386 loaded. On my 486dx33 with Tsenglab EVA W32 card, Gravis
TS>joystick,SBPro and NEC 73M, the performance is terrific, and there
TS>have been no hangs or gliches. (PS I have 578k available conventional
TS>memory, out of a total 32Mb RAM)

I've got the SB16 dbl speed CD setup your thinking of getting. Running on a
486-25SX 12MBRam even under windows with a network running giving only 450K
Base mem free, Rebel Assault goes like a rocket and hasn't hung yet for me
yet. Personally I can't understand why they provide a config.sys setup
because it needs less memory than most new games. Admittedly I usually run
it from DOS no network though. The advantage of the SB16 over the GUS is
that EVERYTHING will work with it, no patches, work arounds/SB emulators
required. The only bummer is the price and that the SB16 has a propriety CD
interface (not SCSI) although there is a SCSI one available for a price...

Steve-D

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From: STEVE DASH                             Number: 12303
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/16/94  4:31a
Subj: ENCARTA - Get 'Microsoft                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Interesting to read a number of messages describing ENCARTA as great value,
one of the best, good on the multimedia etc...

After buying it for $200 I got it up and running - pretty flashy, then I
thought I might read up a bit about Australia. 2 hours later I took it back
for a refund. Why? well how about looking up these references:

(1994 edition)
Picture of Devil's Marbles - gives me a great picture/text of the Olgas!
Adelaide - described as on the Indian Ocean.
Woodville - mentioned as if it is a real city (no other city councils are
mentioned)
Parliment House Canberra picture - Well maybe 6 YEARS AGO!- the old one
Population Growth Rate of Australia (I was told by someone else was 20%
although the guy may have read this incorrectly)

What really gets me is the review in communica magazine praising Encarta as
a learing tool for learning english in Sydney (Uni?).

I suppose Microsoft will fix these 'bugs' in the next version. But then If
you'd buy products from the guys that gave you DOS and edlin then really you
shouldn't expect them to get it right anyway.

Steve-D

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From: CHRIS ANSELL                           Number: 12304
  To: EVERYONE                                 Date: 01/18/94 12:03a
Subj: Who has Hotstuff2?                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi all, i was just wandering if anyone out there has a copy of hotstuff2. it is
supposed to quite wicked in the animation and sound department.
Also, does anyone know when peter gabriel's interactive Xplora cd rom game will
be out for ibm?
cheers
chris ansell

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From: REINHARD KNORRECK                      Number: 12305
  To: LESLIE RHORER                            Date: 01/15/94  5:56p
Subj: Re: Mitshumi Dual & Sound               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

LR> GP> Why is it that so ma
LR> GP> seem to be so hung up on hooking their CD-ROM drive DIRECTLY t
LR> GP> sound board, for heaven's sake??!!
LR>
LR>        Well, two reasons, probably.  The informed user probably ju
LR>to save a peripheral slot.  The uninformed user probably is of the
LR>misapprehension that in order to use the CD and sound card together
LR>must be controlled by the sound card.
LR>
LR>                                                        Les
LR>
LR>--- EZPoint V2.2
LR> * Origin:   GUI?  Ptui!!!  ---  Last Chance Pt 4 (1:387/800.4)

    Thanks to remind me to use the misumi interface card instead of        the
sound card. RAM is now 633kb instead of 593kb before.

    Reinhard.
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From: WILL HOWARD                            Number: 12306
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 01/11/94  8:18a
Subj: !free Cd catalog!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Please send me a copy of your catalog.

        Will Howard
        12507 La Bodega
        San Antonio, TX 78233


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From: HUGH CRAIG                             Number: 12307
  To: AL BRATLIE                               Date: 01/10/94  7:40p
Subj: Re: Adult CD's                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

AB>        True! I don't have a CD player yet. It seems that everytime I
AB>manage
AB> to save up enough money to get one, the technology jumps from 1x to 2x
AB> to 3x to 4x etc....and the price jumps as well :( I just don't want old
AB> technology...anyways..

I can understand your plight! However if that continues to be your
attitude you'll never get a CD player!

As you probably well know 2x drives have dropped drastically in
prices. From , what, 500-1000 bills down to 195-400, depending on
model, bus type etc.

Sure, 3x and 4x are out and are commanding a premium. Of course they
will! And probably by next year they will be dropping in price and
something newer will be out to tempt you.

Be aware ANY affordable tech for your PC is ALREADY yesterdays news.

Thats' just the way it is.

Example. We can see that buying a CDROM player is a waste. Why?
Because it only READS. I want to WRITE to a optical disk! Guess
what? We can, only the drives are a little out of the average
guys price range. 2k bucks and up the last time I looked.

Want to make a prediction? This tech will slowly filter down and
be"affordable" in the 'short' term future. Maybe a year or two.

Do you recall when CD audio disk players first were available? Those
puppies ran 1,500 and more dollars. It was several years before they
dropped down to around $500 or so as I recall. Now we can buy suppiror CD
audio disk players for what? $100 bucks or so..

True it would be nice to have a 3x or 4x reader or reader-writer CD
device. True we can say that within a couple of years the 2x won't
cut it. Even more true we can kick ourselves for not waiting another
couple years for the read-write cd tech to come down in cost

 But if one does that one will probably never buy in. 2x drives
are plenty fast enough for the junk I've run accross. like Rebel Assault or
7th Guest for example.

1x tech was to slow for me. I waited several years as I realized
none of the CD players on the market , until recently, meeted
what I considered a minimum perfomance level that would satisfy
software needs for several years after I purchased said device.
Neither did they meet many of the upcoming(as then unestablished)
standards that where being ironed out. Not to mention I found
it very hard to justify spending more than $250 for such hardware.

With the new flock of low cost 2x drives I could find no reason
to delay any further.! My Mitsumi FX001d 2x drive cost me $195.

 It meets all the standards I was fussing about and beats the
price break I was expecting to pay.

Should I have waited for 3x or 4x. Maybe. But again I can't justify
the cost and I doubt they will come down in price very soon. Maybe
by this time next year..maybe 6 months ....but who can say, eh?

In the meantime I'll enjoy the drive and hopefully some decent, reasonably
priced software-entertainment will be available sometime soon.

But thats another topic.....

Bottom line is that if the average Joe can afford it is already
outdated tech. If you can buy it at Walmart or Sears,etc it is
definatly an indicator of outmoded computer tech.

I just upgraded my 486 system by pluging in a VLB MB and a VLB video
card. This was an effort by me to keep up with the demands
of todays software. I spent $250 for the upgrade. Already I'm
behind the curve as to be truly up to date I would have to run
out and buy a 486DX2 66mhz chip to stick on the new board. I can't
afford to do so at present so I'm 'stuck' with using my 'old'
486-33 chip that I used on the now outmoded strickly 16bit ISA bus
MB.
To make matters 'worse' I'm using IDE tech for the HD's. I really
need to upgrade to SCSI. Even better yet get a EISA-VLB MB and
run EISA SCSI II. This would speed up the system immensly. Howver
can I afford to do so? No, not at present. But I would be up to date...
I think....:}

Good Luck and may we all avoid the 8 track tape players of the future...
Caveat Emptor

P.s. Want to buy a 286-12MB with 2 megs of Ram and a AMD math co?

All I want is 80 bucks. He He He. (Would you like to figure the
depreciation rate for me?) He he HE.
:(









.. The best way to accelerate Windows is at escape velocity.
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From: HUGH CRAIG                             Number: 12308
  To: MIKE LUTES                               Date: 01/10/94  8:13p
Subj: CD on a 286                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

ML>Any way at all to run a CD on a 286 machine?  Any info appreciated.

In the future it would be more helpfull if you would post more
specifics about your system.

Sure. But why would you want to? Sorry. My apologies for that rude remark.


Seriously. Of course. But don't for one second try to run any
of the 'multimedia' software or most cd based games on such a hardware
base. Performance would be pitiful. Belives me. I've had everything
from a old 8088 XT 10mhz clone to a 286-12mhz clone to my present(for
2 years now) 486-33DX based system.

If all you want to do is to peruse data disks or software shareware
archive disks than you will do ok.

You can get the Mitsumi fx001d doublspin drive for $195. It will
come with the 16 bit interface card. It's plug and go.

Be aware that you will have to load device drivers in order to
use the device. If you can load the drivers into high memory
then you should have enough free low memory  to opereate your other
software. If you can't load the drivers into high memory don't expect
to be able to do much. This can be a concern with some 286 based
systems. It just depends on the design and what, if anything, your
currently loading into high memory.

The Mitsumi, as with most others, ships with the needed drivers.

If you want to play the new gee whiz games that are out or
play with the catchall 'multimedia' stuff you will HAVE  to upgrade
your system to at least, at the very minimum, to a 386DX-33mhz based
system. You will need at a MINIMUM 4 megs of RAM, 8 megs preferred
especially if you want to run Windows and get DECENT performance.

Not to mention a nice big hardrive. 245 meg is minimal nowadays.

If the computer case meets your needs and the power supply is not of
concern you could drop a nice shiny new 386dx-40mhz MB in for $110-$140 if
you do it yourself or have a freind. RAM will be the next concern and the
most expensive. Current prices are running $38-$45 per meg. If your lucky
the RAM in your 286 could be used. Assuming it was a later model and uses
SIMMS modules.

I've always peicemealed my systems. As I could never afford to
buy the whole hog in one gulp. It took me years to get where I'm at
now. $250 here $100 there $500 over there and here I am. Slow, but
steady.

(In my closet I got a bunch of outdated tech!). Ah, the wages of
war...




.. "If you can't make it good, make it LOOK good." - B Gates
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From: HUGH CRAIG                             Number: 12309
  To: JERRY MICKISH                            Date: 01/10/94 10:06p
Subj: Texel, Mitsumi Cd-Rom Dr                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

JM>Has anybody out there heard anything bad or otherwise about
JM>Texel and Mitsumi double speed (MPC-2 compliant) CD-ROMs?

JM>Any information will be appreciated.
JM>Jerry

I've been using the Mitsumi FX001D 2x for about 2 months now
and it works like a champ here.

It meets all the latest whiz bang MPC,etc specs. 300k sustained
thruput and 250ms access speed.

Kicks butt here.

System here: For Informational purposes only;
486DX-33 VLB w AMI 11/92 BIOS,8megs RAM,OPTI chipset, 256k cache.
Hencho in China!
Cirrus Logic 5426 VLB Video 1meg  (Not using IRQ 9 option)
Using Cirrus Logic 8/93 1024x728x256 Drivers
SBPRO IRQ 5 base x220.
Intel 400i modem(internal)IRQ 3 and IRQ 11 base x350  (fax on irq 11)
Mouse: Honeywell mouse with 2 BALLS!
Printer IRQ7
2 IDE HD's. Conner 170meg Master, Maxtor 212meg Slave.
Mitsumi FX001D IRQ 10,base x300  Using the supplied card.
MMPM2 is Not installed
Using Stacker for OS/2 and DOS.
OS/2 2.1 is on a non Stacked FAT partition.(G:)  Using Boot Manager.
C:\ Booting IBM PCDOS 6.1.



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From: JERRY CUPPLES                          Number: 12310
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/11/94 11:59p
Subj: caddy shortage in Dallas                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I have a new Apple CD300 which uses the Sony caddies. All the dealers in big D
seem to be out of the caddies, and the price is pretty near the cost of the
darn CD's. Any suggestions on where to get a box of the things reasonably?

Thanks, Jerry
 -> Alice4Mac 2.3b1 E QWK Eval:09Jan94

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From: TODD BOWMAN                            Number: 12311
  To: HARRY GREEN                              Date: 01/11/94  9:54p
Subj: Re: CD-ROM audio outputs and            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Harry Green to John Millar <=-

 HG> You don't need electronics, just a bit of wire!
 HG>
 HG> Just nip down to Tandy (or Radio shack, or whatever they call
 HG> themselves  in your country) and get an audio lead with the appropriate
 HG> plugs at  each end.  I think it's 2.5mm jack on the CD or soundblasters

 Hmm...  Would that be 1/8" in English?  By the way, what country
 are you in?

... OS/2 - Because 32 bits are terrible things to waste
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From: DEREK STUTSMAN                         Number: 12312
  To: KENSHIN SAKURA                           Date: 01/11/94  8:13p
Subj: Re: The 7th Guest.                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

KS>     Well, I got thru a few of the puzzles, but I am stuck on the one w
KS>bacteria under the microscope. The green ones keep overtaking me! I was
KS>wondering if you or anyone else could give me a few tips with this one
KS>the cluebook in the library doesn't help much. Thanx!
   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Actually, it does.  Warp to the cluebook and back three times, and the
microscope puzzle will be solved for you!




Derek Stutsman
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From: KYLE BROWN                             Number: 12313
  To: AL BRATLIE                               Date: 01/12/94  2:02a
Subj: Re: Advice, please...                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>>> AL BRATLIE wrote to CHRIS ROBINSON on 01-06-94 18:59 <<<

AB>        People keep throwing those Wave Table terms in my face, and I d
AB> really know what it all means. For me, the #1 priority is seamless ope

In your face Al. Get one!

AB> price. FM sounds fine to me! I have not heard the others, but I don't
AB> I have anywhere to go to hear the the difference anyway.

You could go to a music store and listen to a WTS keyboard. It probably
will sound better than cards for the PC but you will get a good idea of
what all the hype is about.

The difference is when you hear say a piano on a wave table card it sounds
like a piano. On FM you kind of have to guess. Same for percussion,
strings, horns, brass, ...

AB>        I think there are a lot of players in the sound card market, an
AB> don't think they will all survive. Even worse that incompatability wou
AB> no support! When I finally get up my courage to make the jump and get
AB> CD Drive, I will buy what I percieve as the best sound card avalible.

As long as you have a setup with 100% SB (SBPRO, SB16) and GM support
through a MPU-401 interface you shouldn't have to worry. It will have
plenty of support since most games already have support for these. Plus you
will get seamless operation and excellent music (depending on the piece).


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From: ROBERT WISE                            Number: 12314
  To: JOS CHRISPIJN                            Date: 01/12/94 12:53a
Subj: Re: CREAM OF THE CROP II                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

RW> questions about my setup and then did everything for me. I wish ALL
RW> Cd's were this easy to install!
JC> Doesn't that depend on the kind of BBS-software that is used too ?

JC> Later,
JC> Jos

Sure, The INSTANT setup comes for Maximum, Remote Access, Spitfire, PCboard,
and Quick BBS. But of course almost any BBS can use the old files.bbs file with
a conversion utility. My point was that if you have one of the above listed
BBSs, the setup was REAL simple !!

Robert
* SPITFIRE v3.4
Forest Falls, California - 5,000+ Files!
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From: CHRIS ZITO                             Number: 12315
  To: AL BRATLIE                               Date: 01/11/94  7:37p
Subj: Re: New Sound Cards ?                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 CZ> Don't buy SB16's.  They're pieces of crap.  Go for the Diamond
 AB>         Come on, lets be a little more objective here :) I have heard from
 AB>  dozens of very satisfied SB16 owners.
Yes, satisfied until they go around thinking they've got one of the best cards
on the market.  And they become really disappointed when they realized they've
paid too much for old technology.  SB16 FM is obsolete I hate to tell you.

 AB>         Ya, but what about COMPATABILITY ? I don't care if the sound card
 AB>  has 10^6 wave table voices, 64 bit sound, and all that, if it doesn't
 AB>  seemlessly work with programs that I buy. After seeming hundereds and
 AB>  hundereds of posts which read...
Most sound cards are SB COMPATIBLE.  The Soundwave and most ARIA's have full
sound blaster COMPATIBILITY.  GUS cards have partial SB compatibility, full
General MIDI compatibility.  General MIDI has popular support along with better
sound.  SB16's don't support GM without an extra daughtercard.  SB16's costs
more than these cards, despite the fact that these other cards are of superior
technology.  Is the Creative Labs logo worth the extra $100?

 AB>  "Help! I can't get my [non-sound blaster soundcard] to work with
 AB>  [any piece of software]"
 AB>         I don't want to mess with jumpers, software drivers and emulators,
 AB>  and calls to tech support. I just want to get a sound card that sounds
First of all, you are stereotyping SB sound cards.  Just because it says
Creative Labs on it doesn't even mean it's 100% SB compatible.  When the first
SB16's were released they had serious SB compatibility problems.  And now,
you'll see drivers made especially for the SB16, not because they take
advantage of the card's ability (which is next to none) but of driver
compatiblity problems with the SB 1.0 driver.

 AB>         What is an OLP4 ? I am not all that up on sound
 AB> card technology, and
 AB>  don't know all the buzz words ;)
 AB>         Later,
Your SB16 has the OPL3 synthesizer chip on it.  It will play FM music (yeech!)
The OPL4 chips, will play FM and wavetable music with full downward
compatibility.  Creative Labs is selling obsolete cards at this moment.

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From: CHRIS ZITO                             Number: 12316
  To: JEREMY ROLLINGS                          Date: 01/11/94  7:49p
Subj: New Sound Cards ?                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 JR> I'm about to get the SB16-ASP, too, and would love to hear about
 JR> the "new" C-labs card if you get any responses to your post.
 JR> If you get a chance, could you CC: me a copy of any info you
 JR> get or give me the name of the person who sent it to you?
Here are the facts about SB16's

16 bit 44.1 khz ADC/DAC
20 stereo FM voices (OPL3)
ASP processor (on some)
SCSI II (on some)

First of all, SB16's are at the bottom end of the sound card spectrum.  SB16ASP
has obsolete, annoying FM music (same as original SB), a disabled DSP with
little memory (virtually useless), and alot of hype.


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From: DAVE JARRETT                           Number: 12317
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 01/11/94  6:44a
Subj: Re: !free Cd Catalog!                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No


 JR>********* FREE HUGE CD-ROM DISC & accessories CATALOG!**********
 JR>For the largest selection & lowest prices, get our NEW catalog...
 JR>If you'd like a printed copy, send your mailing information to us.

  Hit me, at...

7014 E. Golflinks Rd. #136
Tucson,AZ 85730



... Yea, ..once a hobby, now an expensive addiction!
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12

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From: JOHN CALLICRATE                        Number: 12318
  To: NORM HILL                                Date: 01/11/94 10:57p
Subj: Panasonic 562/563                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Where would you suggest I go (call) for the driver for a CR-563-x.
It uses a file named CR56X.SYS

Thanks for any comments


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From: BRYAN BURTON                           Number: 12319
  To: BO SHORT                                 Date: 01/10/94  9:52p
Subj: KQ6 Isle/Wonders                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

BS>Can anyone tell me what I need to get past the last gnome on the Isle
of
BS>Wonders Beach.  He is the one that looks at you to see if you are
human
BS>not.  Also, what do I need to stop the ceiling from falling on me in
the
BS>labyrinth?  Thanks in advance.

BS>Bo Short
For the last gnome you need invisible ink from the trash can in front of
the Pawn Shop.
use the brick from the garden, throw it into the gears.
                        Glad to help!
                          -Bryan-
BS>--- xMail 1.00/Pro
BS> * Origin: Theorem Beach, Viola, DE  (1:2600/140)


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From: RYAN FLETCHER                          Number: 12320
  To: AL BRATLIE                               Date: 01/11/94  3:58p
Subj: SCSI CD Drives ?                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 >         I hope this isn't too dumb of a question, but
 > it has been on my mind.
 > When I look through ads in Computer Shopper, I see
 > LOTS of CD Drives. However,
 > I almost never see any mention of the drive interface.
 > Can one assume that
 > the drives have a SCSI interface, or is that something
 > special ?
I agree.  I bought a Toshiba 3401 and was under the impression that it came
with the SCSI card.  Too good to be true, eh?  Turns out I had th spend another
$100 for an Adaptec card!!  You have to look really close to find 'em or you
can just look in the index.

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From: DON KULHA                              Number: 12321
  To: JEFF WEISS @ 909/10                      Date: 01/10/94  8:13p
Subj: Custom CD-ROMs                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 JW@9> Price for the first disc starts at $90.  Additional copies are as low
 JW@9> as $30.  We accept almost ALL major tape and removable media formats

      As regards DAT tape....what tape software formats do you accept? Do they
have to be in a CD image format or would a basic systos file copy be okay? Is
there any additional cost if the files are NOT in CD-Image format? I've written
down your info and will keep you in mind for one-offs (I need some soon) but
thought I'd ask as others might like the same info.

    Thanks in Advance....DCK


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From: KIERNAN HOLLAND                        Number: 12322
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/11/94 10:46p
Subj: Aminet CD-ROM vs. Aminet itself...      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

For amiga users only....

Well, I have direct Internet access and have downloaded
the INDEX, RECENT and TREE text files from wuarchive's
mirror of the Aminet site. The INDEX text file lists
descriptions for about not much less than 6000 files.
I was just making this known in case someone sshould
find the Aminet CD-ROM to contain less. I'm getting my copy
of the CD-ROM soon (although I have not purchased the
CD-ROM drive...) so I will find out how it compares..
Don't bother replying to thi mail (I'll be in another
place within 3 days, so...).

Oh ya, GCC-256.lha from the Aminet site (Internet, via ftp)
in dev/gcc contains the best installation/working
version of the GCC, G++ and Objective-C (though I have not
tested that part yet) I have ever installed (of three previous
attempts of getting a working C compiler of any type,
and first of two attempts to get GCC up, the last time
I just got gcc working without g++). Note, it took me lesss
than 15 minutes to install the full distribution (excluding
manuals and unix utilities provided in the last two parts
of the 2.56 distribution). You need AmigaInstall (provided via PD
libraries, from CBM), but its well worth it!!! g++ worked
perfectly! I have an AMiga 3000 16/50 68881 with 6 megs of ram (2 chip,4 fast
scram-zips).. The distribution took up 10 megs of space
on my hard drive... You need at least 6 megs (I barely can compile
anything without getting down to 800K ram left (1 meg used for
utilities... expect to use all memory space if you have 4 megs).

Optimization 2 setting took about another 400K of ram on a
sself-maintaining binary tree (I wrote, jusst for the heck of it),
just one object, originally written on the AIX xlC compiler,
got absolutely no errors.. Its good enough for me... The person
who did the port to the Amiga said that it could compile
itself without any trouble (jusst took one night of compiling...
not bad if you consider how big the source is for this distribution).

Suppossedly the distribution is not on the Aminet CD-ROM yet..
Best to find someone who has direct access to the Internet at
14.4K baud or higher. The files are 2 megs apiece compressed
and decompressed they are 5 megs. All LHA compressed, you only
need the first two:
gcc256-2.lha         dev/gcc    2.7M+gcc-2.5.6 #2 Optimizing C/C++/Objective-C
gcc256-3.lha         dev/gcc    2.6M+gcc-2.5.6 #3 Optimizing C/C++/Objective-C
gcc256-4.lha         dev/gcc    2.9M+gcc-2.5.6 #4 Optimizing C/C++/Objective-C

later...

FOr any more questions... Send me Email (on Internet) at
[e-mail] or [e-mail],
the first is better... the last is another account in case
the first should fail.

PSS- Somebody needs to publish a CD-ROM full of the FAQ sheets
I find off the nets... They are so much fun to read and are so
usseful... good reading! check out the Compression-FAQ, its real good..

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From: OLIVER KREFT                           Number: 12323
  To: NATHAN MCCARTHY                          Date: 01/11/94 11:43a
Subj: Re: Return to Zork                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Nathan Mccarthy said about "Re: Return to Zork":

NM > Do you know how to get out of the first town (west
NM > shanbar) i can't get out of it.

Hi Nathan,
maybe you should visit BOOS at the old mill. If he invites you to drink,
go ahead. After a while he will give you TWO keys. Then use the trapdoor.

BTW : Can you name a few echos you read in the States with messages
      from europe ? I think some links were cut down here. :-((
Thanks a lot.

Bye, Olli ...

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From: KARSTEN ROSE                           Number: 12324
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 01/11/94 10:44a
Subj: cdlist.zip                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

following up a message from Joe Rinehart to Karsten Rose:


JR>     I need either an address or approval of a connecting
JR> sysop to send the list to you.

Karsten Rose
Schaeferstr. 8
13585 Berlin
Germany

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From: LESLIE RHORER                          Number: 12325
  To: JOHN SEAMANS                             Date: 01/12/94 12:07a
Subj: Re: MITSHUMI DUAL & SOUND               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 JS> Many people want their cd-roms hooked to their soundcards to inable them
 JS> to utilize programs that will play directly from the cd. I
 JS> can think of several off hand ; Comptons Multi-media
 JS> encyclopedia, MCS music rack, Day of the Tenticle, 7th
 JS> Guest, (just about all CD-ROM entertainment packages). If
 JS> the program is loaded into memory and then uses wave files
 JS> or something similar then the direct hook up is not
 JS> needed; otherwise it is very necessary.

        This is just plain false, I am afraid.  The CD-ROM can be driven by any
SCSI controller in the system, and it need have nothing at all to do with the
sound board.  If one wishes the sound board to control the volume of the
CD-ROM, then the audio must be routed through the sound board, but this has
nothing to do with the controller interface, and no other system facilities
require that the sound board and the CD-ROM have anything at all to do with one
another.

 JS> Be wary though, I had to alter the 4 pin connector that
 JS> came with my Mitsumi, as Logitech uses a non-standard
 JS> connector. They can be easily ordered or fabricated though.

        Many of us use external drives, and so avoid the hassle altogether.
Most sound boards have external input jacks (usually 1/8" stereo mini-jacks).
Any .WAV or similar files are simply music samples which the sound card
converts to analog sound signals.  IF the sounds and/or music are produced
directly from the CD, the CD output jacks are more than sufficient to the job.
You have fallen prey to the same myth by which so many people have been
confused.  The CD-ROM and the sound board have nothing in particular to do with
one another, no matter WHAT the software.

                                                            Les

When I was your age, hard drives were as big as pizzas!

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From: LESLIE RHORER                          Number: 12326
  To: PETER SMINK                              Date: 01/12/94 12:18a
Subj: Re: Mitshumi Dual & sound               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 GP> proprietary sound-card interface thing).  Why is it
 GP> that so many people
 GP> seem to be so hung up on hooking their CD-ROM drive DIRECTLY to their
 GP> sound board, for heaven's sake??!!

 PS> Saves wasting a slot in my computer. Did had a

        True.

 PS> soundblaster pro for about 1.5 years. Why shouldn't i buy
 PS> such a cd-rom that fits to my sb-pro? The dualspeed
 PS> matsushita player works rather well (purchased recently).

        Well, there are a number of real reasons why one might not wish to do
so, especially if running OS/2.

                                                        Les

When I was your age, hard drives were as big as pizzas!

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From: JIM HOFBAUER                           Number: 12327
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 01/07/94  8:19a
Subj: Re: !free Cd catalog!                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Joe Rinehart to All <=-

 JR> *********** FREE HUGE CD-ROM DISC & accessories CATALOG!*************
 JR> For the largest selection & lowest prices, get our NEW catalog...
 JR> If you'd like a printed copy, send your mailing information to us.
 JR> We offer CDLIST file attach's upon request.


        Yes, I would love to get a copy of your list.  Please send it to:

 Jim Hofbauer
 617 140th St. S #4
 Tacoma, WA  98444


 Thanks,
 Jim
... I call things as I see them; If I didn't see them, I make them up!
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From: JAMES MARTIN                           Number: 12328
  To: BRYAN FULLER                             Date: 01/11/94  2:37p
Subj: CREAM OF THE CROP II                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 > Hmm.. I just got a CD-ROM drive and am planning to use if fer
 > my RA 2.01
 > BBS in the near future... So what's involved in it, you just
 > run that
 > RA_CREAM program that you mentioned above and it does all the
 > file base
 > stuff for you? And also, Where did you get it from and how
 > much? cya

  I got the disk from  Joe Rinehart at CONFIG.SYS (tel [phone] ).
 BUT i got a discount, i spent over 700 $$  with them the day i bought this CD.
 Joe Recomended it and said if i didn't like it he'd give me my money back!!
Well as you can see I LOVE IT..
    Yes all you do is goto your file area 1 set EVERYTHING the way you want it
for the cd. (i.e security, upload area, new, dupes etc.)  The program will do
the rest.  Now there are 2 mistakes in the program (very minor) 1 is the
business dir is named wrong (just goto that dir in raconfig and fix it).
2. I can't remember BUT if you ask here Terry Blount (the author) will post it
for you.. it's something to do with the files' list in one of the last
directories on the cd...

  Other wise  if you want late 93 files, a GREAT cd, and a good price Call for
this disk...Cream Of The Crop II... (and Joe Rinehart if you want a GREAT
PRICE)

  Bye  James Martin



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From: LOUISE NORTON                          Number: 12329
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/11/94  6:29p
Subj: Ferrets                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello All.  We are starting a new project for entertainment in our household
this year....It is call project SAVE.  we have made arrangments to rescue all
Ferrets brought into our Humane Society,  At present ANY Fwrret brought in is
put to sleep without fail..  we have decieded to run a clearing house for all
Ferrets ...keeping track of lost and found pets as well as saving those about
to be put to sleep. After a week of cheaking out other plans on the coast we
have started our program here.  we now have two of our own and a new one that
was crippled and left.  We would welcome any information you may have and also
more than willing to work with you in any way.  If you have a used or unwanted
Ferret PLEASE leave us a line here and we will get back to you.   Thanks ever.
LOUISE

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From: PERRY WHITNEY                          Number: 12330
  To: MICHAEL GUIDRY                           Date: 01/09/94  8:07p
Subj: Japan                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

   Hello,

      I was just looking through the M-base when I noticed you were in
      N.O. I'm from Baton Rouge. I'm out in Yokosuka, Japan for three
      years. I sure miss La. My brother Timmy works at Borden. And is
      also a fireman for the Prairieville VFD. It's strange that he is a
      computer nut and won't connect his modem to mail me! My other
      brother Gene is in the Navy Reserves and works out of SBU 22
      across the river from the Quarter. While I have you here, do you
      know of a Cajun singer Zachary Richard? I saw him in San Diego a couple
      years ago and would like to see about having him do a show in
      Yokosuka. I have some connections with the entertainment director.
      Well, I just wanted to say hello, but like always I get off track.
      Drop me a line sometime if you get a chance.

                                            Perry Whitney

... Another fine lie from Yokosuka, Japan.
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From: TRANE FRANCKS                          Number: 12331
  To: GARY HUFF                                Date: 01/11/94 12:19p
Subj: Good ShareWare CD                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting - Gary Huff to Trane Francks, 08 Jan 94  18:30
 -=> Subject - Re: Good ShareWare CD

 TF> I keep thinking that Cream of the Crop may do the trick.

 GH> I don't have it, but it's supposed to have all the latest stuff.

I'm so fickle. I picked up Night Owl 10 the other day. The
users have gone gaa-gaa over it. ;-)

I -=LOVED=- how easy it was to setup with RA. Didn't have to
do anything fancy at all. Very, very nice. Just had to
remove 3 blank lines from the top of all the filedata areas
that were in the files.bbs. No big deal. ;-) And no problem
to remove the 3 suspect files from access; SPORT21C.ZIP,
SF2_UP.ZIP, FUTURE1.EXE.

 GH> if you're talking about "Classical" programs, then I'd recommend the
 GH> PC-SIG collection.  There's where all your "Classical" programs can be
 GH> found... word processors, data bases, spreadsheets, etc.  Oldies but
 GH> goodies.

This I will keep in mind for later. I fully intend on
getting a CD-ROM changer for the board one of these days.
Well, that is if the MAC (Materials Acquisition Coordinator,
aka Wife) will allow it. Not likely after my last $1400
bundle of toys.<g>

Thanks ever so much for all the help, mate. I've learned an
awful lot about what goes on in the CD world since picking
up this echo. It's been a pleasure.

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From: CHIP SLATE                             Number: 12332
  To: MATT CULLEN                              Date: 01/10/94  6:32a
Subj: Re: Good Games.                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Matt Cullen to All <=-

 MC> Can anyone recommend any good CD-ROM games. I gut' Battle
 MC> Chess and  Return to Zork ,tthere both great...I just got my CDdrive
 MC> so I am not familar with the software that is out. I heard MYST was a
 MC> good game. your help would be apppreciated,
 MC> thankx
 MC> --Matt Cullen :)

 MC> -!- FMail 0.94
 MC>  ! Origin: *The Studio* Methuen, Ma  [phone] * (1:324/138)
Well,personally my favorite game would have to be The Seventh Guest
It is quite an interesting game...However when/if you beat it
then it starts to just collect dust in its case..Then again what
CD doesn't...
Then there's Loom This game is absolutely one of my favorites!!!
It is a mix of interactivity with Adventure, this game I have
not beaten yet,thiugh a clue book is available....
Finally, I suggest 2 games Ihave yet to get myself...
They are:REBEL ASSULT,and STAR TREK 25th Anniversary..
Rebel Assult,when looking in the GAMING echo on my local BBS
gets Rave REviews!!! And looks pretty good on top of that!!
Finally, there's Star Trek 25th Anniv. ....This game
from what I've heard is excellent ...The prices I've seen on it
however have not been($65)...But dont let this discourage you!!
The voices on the game are actually that of the original
Star Trek Captain,William Shattener as well as the others...
        Well hope this helps if you want some ordering info.
        just drop me a line...And tell me some more
        about your CD Drive....C-Ya,Chip Slate



... "Scotty, beam me up another Blue Wave message."
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From: CHIP SLATE                             Number: 12333
  To: ROBERT KING                              Date: 01/10/94  6:37a
Subj: Re: List of CD's for sale               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Robert King to All <=-

 RK> Anyone out there with CD's for sale please send me a list.  I just
 RK> got a CD-Rom drive. Robert King
 RK> 3957 Hayden Bridge Road
 RK> Springfield,  Oregon
 RK> 97477
 RK>
 RK> Thanks.

 RK> -!- Maximus 2.01wb
 RK>  ! Origin: Pandora's Box * Eugene OR * [phone] * HST/DS *
 RK> (1:152/6)

Well,I haven't got my Printer yet so I'll just reply them to you..
        Consulting Detective"Sherlock Holmes" Volumes 1&2
        Spirit of Excalibur
        Chessmaster 3000
    Not Much But......Well,C-Ya,Chip Slate


... My hard disk is full! Maybe I'll try this message section thing.
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From: CHIP SLATE                             Number: 12334
  To: NORMAN WATSON                            Date: 01/10/94  6:44a
Subj: Re: The 7th Guest.                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Norman Watson to All <=-

 NW> The t7G book states that there is a price to be paid for looking at
 NW> the  clue book. What is the price. ???

 NW> (probably make you do that infuriating maze twice! )
 NW> -!-
 NW> * SPEED 1.4i #1077 * My computer NEVER loc
 NW> -!- FidoPCB v1.4 beta
 NW>  ! Origin: Mercury Opus * 10 Gigs/1200 Confs * 813-321-0734
 NW> (1:3603/20)

Well, I've defeated the game many times and the only thing i can figure
out is that the cinema scenes(with actors)are quite out of sync.
But hey whats that to defeating the game..Hope this helps..
If you need any clues..Let me Know....C-Ya,Chip Slate

... All I need is a Wave and a board to surf it on.
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From: CHIP SLATE                             Number: 12335
  To: CHIPPER WILSON                           Date: 01/10/94  6:45a
Subj: Re: The 7th Guest                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Chipper Wilson to Anyone <=-

 CW> I may be just plain stupid, but the puzzle with the bishops has
 CW> got me stumped.  What's the objective???

 CW> -!- Opus-CBCS 1.73a
 CW>  ! Origin: StarGazer * Home of a 31 Ford Roadster * (1:106/131.0)
Some how I think you're supposed to switch their possition but
I've beat the game and I ended up using the clue Book..
Ifyou need any more help..Let me know..C-Ya,Chip Slate



... "Scotty, beam me up another Blue Wave message."
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From: ROBERT BRITZ                           Number: 12336
  To: JOSE VISBAL                              Date: 01/10/94 11:21p
Subj: Re: StarWars Rebel Assault              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 JV> will you take 35.00 for it...?
 JV> let me know i am interested....


Jose, if he doesn't, I'll sell you mine for $35. Reply back here or give me a
ring at 206-256-4987 after 4:00pm anytime.


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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 12337
  To: GEORGE WALKER                            Date: 01/06/94  7:43p
Subj: MITSUMI CD AND THE SB PRO               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>I have a potentially silly question.  I've just installe3d a Mitsumi
>doublespeed drive and have a Soundblaster Pro (16) (before Creative Labs made
>multiple flavors of the SBPRO).  How do I interface the two

 As far as the SB controlling your Mitsumi, you DON'T interface the two - they
are NOT compatable.

 As far as the audio cabling goes, you apparently have to switch the ground and
the center of each audio cable on ONE end of the cable.


 * SLMR 2.1a * Boss spelled backwards is "double S O B".

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 12338
  To: DAVID NAVARRO                            Date: 01/06/94  7:45p
Subj: CD CACHE                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>        And another question . Were are you from?? I'm from Spain and i want
to
>know if in your country are CD's i your respective language.

 Since the majority of CD-ROM plants (and THE #1 such plant) are in the U.S.,
most CD-ROMs to date are English targeted.
 BTW - add "La Collecion" from Walnut Creek to your collection of Spanish ROMs
- it's basically the Simtel 20 collection with spanish docs (and front end?).


 * SLMR 2.1a * Why is it that Wrong Numbers are never busy?

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 12339
  To: LOUIS DIGGS                              Date: 01/07/94 11:52a
Subj: LOOKING FOR USED CD-ROM D               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>If anyone have any CD-ROM Disks (games preferably) that are for the Macintosh

 Check out my price list - I carry several MAcintosh titles, including
"Journeyman Project" and "Iron Helix".

 Should be very closely following this message, over in CFORSALE and CDROM_SALE
echoes (it's WAY too long to fit here!)....


 * SLMR 2.1a * Confucious say too damn much!

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 12340
  To: JOE SITKO                                Date: 01/07/94 12:20p
Subj: 7TH GUEST & SVGA QUESTION               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>All I want to do is use my VGA monitor as a VGA monitor, but feed it video
>through a SVGA card.  I'm told that is quite possible to do.

>I'm getting a Trident SVGA card with one meg.  (I gor a good deal on it!)
>Hopefully, that'll work OKAY.

 Overkill - the highest mode your monitor will support only needs a half Meg on
the Trident (I've run an 8900 here for almost 3 years now).

 The extra RAM won't hurt the card, but it will let you get into modes your
monitor will NOT display properly....


 * SLMR 2.1a * In memory of Ryan Gale, who's name is remembered....

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 12341
  To: LESLIE RHORER                            Date: 01/07/94 12:24p
Subj: KODAK PHOTOCD                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

> BB> (VPIC uses the full screen to
> BB> display GIFs. It also auto sizes the file to fit your screen
> BB> within some limits. This software doesn't.)

>        You have that backwards.  VPIC (and CSHOW) do not change the image
>resolution to size it.  Rather, they change the SCREEN resolution to best
match
>the picture resolution, thus allowing optimal viewing parameters

 CSHOW will in fact map the picture resolution to the screen resolution, I
think VPIC will also do so. I have viewed 1024x800 pictures here that way,
despite the fact that my monitor is SINGLE-SYNC VGA only and won't DO more than
640x480 (or 800x600 if I "fiddle" with the Horizontal Hold)....


 * SLMR 2.1a * "What were you in civilian life?" "HAPPY, SIR!"

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 12342
  To: DAVID WATT                               Date: 01/07/94 12:27p
Subj: RETURN TO ZORK MEMORY                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>Return to Zork says I need 5120 bytes more free memory.

>Files=40 DEVICE=C:\WINDOWS\HIMEM.SYS DEVICE=C:\WINDOWS\EMM386.EXE DOS=HIGH

 The files statement, as I recall, should come AFTER the DOS=HIGH statement.

>STACKS=9,256

 STACKS=0,0 should help some, if the above is NOT the problem.


 * SLMR 2.1a * Vultures vs. Lawyers - vultures are NICER!!!!

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From: TERRY BLOUNT                           Number: 12343
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/12/94  7:50p
Subj: CD ROM DRIVES $99 EACH                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 Hitachi cd rom drives model 3600 (that's right model 3600) $99 each.
 Access time 350 ms.  Transfer rate 150 kb/s.  These EXCELLENT drives
 can be daisy-chained up to  8  on each propitiatory controller card.
 30 day warranty.        All domestic orders are shipped    c.o.d.
 Total for an 8  drive  setup  assembled  in  case  with  p/s  and
 interface,  cables,  caddies,  ready  to  plug  in  and   play...
 including shipping c.o.d. (A $1,000 value)  ALL  for  only   $960
 4 drive setup as above....  A $560 value   special offer .....$530
 Call voice 205-824-2552  or "crash" netmail your order to 3625/441.
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From: GORDON FLETCHER                        Number: 12344
  To: BOB BREED                                Date: 01/11/94  9:56a
Subj: KODAK PHOTOCD                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

BB>    If you're talking about "Kodak PhotoCD-Access Software and
  >Photo Sampler," I have yet to find anyway to get that program to
  >display pictures on a blank screen -- When I use it, you have a
  >'windows' box, then at least two other Kodak 'boxes' then the
  >picture in yet another small box -- not what I had in mind. (If
  >I'm missing something with this program, please let me know.)

Bob, I get full screen images by copying to "After Dark" screen saver in
the slide show mode. With this, you can have as many slide shows as your
hard disk will stand. You can adjust the interval between and the time
shown. Also sequence, random and shuffle. Just save the images as
Windows BMP. The images occupy the entire screen.

                                              Fletch.
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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 12345
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/11/94  1:21p
Subj: So Much Modem Madness                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

The following is a review of new shareware CD-Rom by Power User Software
called "So Much Modem Madness".  I have included the list of directories
and stats concerning file dates to give you a good feel for what is
inside the disc.


                        So Much Modem Madness (tm)
         1 Ansi Graphics               20 PcBoard BBS/Utils
         2 File Compression            21 Misc. Programming
         3 BBS Utilities 'A-L'         22 Protocol Add-Ons
         4 BBS Utilities 'M-Z'         23 Qmodem & QmPro Utils
         5 BBS Doors 'A-L'             24 RAQ BBS/Utils
         6 BBS Doors 'M-Z'             25 RBBS & Utils
         7 BBS Listings                26 Renegade BBS/Utils
         8 BBS Programs                27 RIP Graphics & Utils
         9 Communications              28 RIP Doors & Games
        10 Desqview Help/Utils         29 SpitFire BBS & Utils
        11 GT Power BBS & Utils        30 Tag BBS & Utils
        12 HAM Radio                   31 Telegard BBS & Utils
        13 Maximus BBS & Utils         32 Telix & Telix Utils
        14 Modem & Utils               33 TriBBS & Utils
        15 Netmail Help & Utils        34 Misc. Utilities
        16 Network Progs & Utils       35 Virus Prevention
        17 Offline Mail Readers        36 Waffle BBS & Utils
        18 OPUS BBS & Utils            37 Wildcat BBS & Utils
        19 OS/2 Communications         38 Windows Communications


File stats for 1990 and 1991:

90  File   %    Apx  'K'   %        91  File   %    Apx 'K'    %
==  ==== =====  ======== =====      ==  ==== =====  ======== =====
       1  0.0%        12  0.0%         1,108 14.1%    54,577  9.1%
    ==== =====  ======== =====          ==== =====  ======== =====


File stats for 1992 and 1993:

92  File   %    Apx 'K'    %        93  File   %    Apx 'K'    %
==  ==== =====  ======== =====      ==  ==== =====  ======== =====
   2,751 35.1%   199,961 33.4%         3,980 50.8%   344,917 57.5%
    ==== =====  ======== =====          ==== =====  ======== =====

----  Total Files:  7,840    Total Approx 'K' Bytes:   599,467  ----

I installed this disc into a SF-Rom/EZ-Rom set up very quickly.  You
will find files.bbs and sffiles.bbs file lists in each directory as well
as PCBoard type DIR file lists in a separate directory.  The directory
structure is simple, single layered, and descriptive of the files in
that directory.  I found no discrepancies so far in the file lists.
That is not to say something may not come up later.

The following information is stated on the back of the jewel case:

So Much Modem Madness!
600 Megabytes of communications and Online Software
Features:       Over 7,200 programs for Modem Maniacs!
                DOS and Windows interface for easy program access.
                Automatic CD-Rom Door installation
                BBS ready with standard file lists in all directories
                Logical directory layout.

My personal feelings are that this disc is up to par with the other
So Much Shareware series of CD-Roms by Power Users Software.  If you are
looking for a lot of BBS or modem utilities and programs, this disc is
for you.  I have had many people come to me for BBS related files
lately.  This disc will satisfy them for sure!

Computer Works                                          Jim...
CD-Rom Sales!
[phone] Voice
[phone] BBS

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From: JIM KRUSZYNSKI                         Number: 12346
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 01/12/94  1:15p
Subj: !free Cd catalog!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Please send me your latest CD catalog
Jim Kruszynski
7258 Conley St.
Balto. Md.21224

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From: JIM KRUSZYNSKI                         Number: 12347
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 01/12/94  1:35p
Subj: CD-Rom Catalog Available                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Please send me your latest catalog
Jim Kruszynski
7258 Conley St.
Balto. Md. 21224

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From: KAY MONTES                             Number: 12348
  To: JOHN ULLMER                              Date: 01/11/94 10:25p
Subj: CD-ROM DRIVE AND WIN                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

JU-=>... I live in a Windowless house;  doors only.


Thanks for responding.  We got the problem fixed -- it had to do with
loading drivers in the HMA.  I'm not much of a fan of Windows either --
probably because we're running on a 386/16 with 2 megs of RAM -- but
we're upgrading the motherboard to a 486/25 with 8 megs of RAM.  Maybe
Windows will be a little friendlier then.<G>


 * OLX 2.1 TD * To err is human, to forgive is unthinkable.

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From: KAY MONTES                             Number: 12349
  To: JASON KOLLER                             Date: 01/11/94 10:27p
Subj: CDROM/PRINTER/MICE                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

JK-=>Please include $2.90, and I will send it second day air USPS.  Thanks!


I'll send off a check tomorrow.  Thanks.


 * OLX 2.1 TD * If You Care Enough to Steal the very Best, Snipit

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From: KAY MONTES                             Number: 12350
  To: MICHAEL LARKIN                           Date: 01/11/94 10:29p
Subj: CD-ROM DRIVE AND WINDOWS                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

ML-=>Is the mscdex statement the FIRST one in your autoexec?


Thanks for responding.  We got the problem fixed.  It had to do with
putting the drivers in the HMA.


 * OLX 2.1 TD * Do files get embarrassed being unZIPped?

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From: JOS CHRISPIJN                          Number: 12351
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 01/11/94 11:56p
Subj: Re: Cd-rom Drives+                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Joe,

Quoting your message (05 Jan 94  03:10) to Michael Kelly :

 JR> Sorry, only the NEC modl 36 is SCSI and it is an external unit.
I sent ye a netmail about some info on this drive; could you please sent us
some more info ? What does refurbished mean ?
Also we can put your cd-rom catalogue(s) available for freq/dl on our bbs
for European continental users/sysops...

CU,
Jos Chrispijn, Sysop 2:285/402

... Get stoned: Drink liquid cement.
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From: THOMAS JOHNSON                         Number: 12352
  To: N                                        Date: 01/13/94 12:24a
Subj: Panasonic 562/563                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

hello doug i deleted the dir with my cdrom driver in it i have a
panasonic cdrom i don't know if it is a 562 or 563 i would appreciate
any help with this problem     thomas

d
a
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From: TERRY BLOUNT                           Number: 12353
  To: ALEX MOTTRAM                             Date: 01/13/94  9:35a
Subj: COC III?                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 Alex   Mottram   wrote   in  a   message   to    Terry    Blount:

AM> Are there plans for a COCIII?

 There are always "plans"  ...like they say... when  all  is  said
 and   done   more   will   be   "said"   than   "done."    <grin>

AM> BBS/Business in the master list file.   What  I'm  wondering  is
AM>  if  you'd  like  to  include  the  setup  program  for  GTPower
AM> 17.06+ BBS that I wrote on future versions of COC.

 Yes.  I want to support as many  "flavors"  of  bbs  software  as
 possible.  You can use the sample  "Cream.lst"  for  the  control
 file.  I'll try to make _SURE_ that "Area" is  not  left  out  at
 the beginning of the Business listings.

 If you can send it to ma at 3625/441 that would help out...  send
 a net mail message with it.

Thanks.

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 12354
  To: MIKE KARINA                              Date: 01/14/94  3:41p
Subj: MAD DOG MCCREE                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>Can anybody help me, I just bought Mad Dog McCree (That game where you play a
>kinda movie).  I'm using a Mitsumi, it has 340ms (or close to) access speed,

 You really need a double-spin drive for "clean" animation on Mad Dog, from
what I've seen.

>the next guy.  I don't know what to do, my MSCDEX buffer is set to /m:32 (32k

 m:32 is a 64k buffer - MIGHT help some to kick it WAY up, m:126 or m:254 or
possibly even LARGER - don't forget the /e switch....


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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 12355
  To: GORDON PETERSON                          Date: 01/14/94  3:44p
Subj: MITSHUMI DUAL & SOUND                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>Why is it that so many people seem to be so hung
>up on hooking their CD-ROM drive DIRECTLY to their sound board, for heaven's
>sake??!!

 Lack of slots - ESPECIALLY in those "silly little" small footprint machines,
which often only HAVE 3 slots in the machine.


 * SLMR 2.1a * Committee (n): Life form with 6 or more legs and no brain

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From: MICHAEL MOSS                           Number: 12356
  To: RALPH LINDEMANN                          Date: 01/15/94  3:34p
Subj: Re: Lucas Arts Board                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Have you been able to connect to it at all, I have tried to as well, all I get
is garbage on the screen!

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From: LOYD CRAFT                             Number: 12357
  To: EDDIE APPELL                             Date: 01/15/94  5:47p
Subj: CD Recorders                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 > I believe (although I may be wrong) that the
 > Ricoh can only produce CD's that are optimized for single-speed drives.
 > They will run on other speeds, but they won't be optimized for those
 > speeds.

You are right in the fact that you may be wrong, but that's about where it
ends...  <g>

Double speed drives are _double speed_ for the reason that they
spin the disk at twice the RPM's of a single speed disk. There is no difference
in the CD.  It's sort of like playing a 38 LP at 72 speed.

Where X is the length in minutes of a CD image:

A single speed CD writer will take X minutes to write, plus any time involved
with creating the virtual image, and the time needed to write the closing
track.

A double speed writer will take X/2 minutes, plus the same amount
of time to create the virtual image, and the closing track.


The length of time that is taken to create the image depends on your hardware.
Disk speed, fragmentation, CPU speed, etc.   In general, my Philips writer,
which is double speed takes 41 minutes to scan the files, and generate an ISO
virtual image, and then write a 650 meg CDROM.   In this case, the software is
taking approximately 4 minutes to scan the data, and the rest
is the actual writing.

This is with a 386/40 with a SCSI-II FAST 10ms hard drive and a 1542C
controller.

It is possible to create a physical image of the data, which requires hard
drive space equal to the size of the CD to be written IN ADDITION to the space
needed to store the files you are writing.   This can be done to help a system
that is too slow to read all the files fast enough to keep up with the writer,
since it does not require seeking on the hard drive. The image on disk is the
exact image that would be put on the CDROM.   If you're replicating a large
number of disks, this can save several minutes per disk, since the image need
not be recreated for each disk.


 > Hope that helps!

It probably confused him beyond imagination.  <grin>

Loyd

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From: RICHARD MAY                            Number: 12358
  To: HUGH CRAIG                               Date: 01/14/94  8:50p
Subj: SCSI vs. IDE                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 HC> To make matters 'worse' I'm using IDE tech for the HD's. I really
 HC> need to upgrade to SCSI. Even better yet get a EISA-VLB MB and
 HC> run EISA SCSI II. This would speed up the system immensly. Howver
 HC> can I afford to do so? No, not at present. But I would be up to date...

   I think perhaps you are misled.  First of all, you will not realize a
significant speed increase with SCSI.  While SCSI fast-wide has a higher
transfer rate than IDE, 20MB a sec vs. 11.1 for IDE, The SCSI controller must
break the data into SCSI packets to shoot down the cable.  This overhead adds
up and takes a toll on data throughput.  Second, SCSI utilizes DMA transfers
for I/O to and from the motherboard.  While this is the fastest way to get
information to and from system memory, a non-maskable interrupt is generated
during the transfer which holds the CPU (and the ISA/local bus) in suspension.
With PIO, the CPU can interleave its resources between I/O and data crunching
more efficiently.  SCSI-based computer systems become quite slow at foreground
tasks when doing heavy disk access in the background.  I have done A to B
comparision tests under varying conditions and have seen it.  SCSI is for file
servers....

   EISA can overcome the DMA problem but ONLY if ALL cards plugged into the bus
are EISA.  Otherwise you basically just have fast ISA, 33MB a second transfer
rate max.  The bus would go high-Z during DMA transfers just the same.  BTW,
VESA local bus can transfer at around 130MB second, the actual throughput rate
is seldom better than 60MB a second.

   One more thing, where do you expect to find a hard drive that can maintain a
sustained throughput rate that is anywhere NEAR the numbers I mentioned above?
Most hard drives in use nowdays (like Maxtor 212's or Quantum LPS 240's will
not run ANY faster on local bus controllers nor will their SCSI counterparts go
*any* faster, irregardless of bus design.


   Food for thought.  I hate to sound arrogant but SCSI-for-the-end-user is
aimed at people with more money than brains...



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From: RICHARD MAY                            Number: 12359
  To: JASON WAGNER                             Date: 01/15/94  3:19p
Subj: Re: Doom on a GUS?                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 JW> NOTE: This is a different Jason Wagner--  In Colorado

 JW> In a previous message to Jason, you mentioned a patch,
 JW> and that everything works fine now.  Do you know where

   The patch is for upgrading your copy of DOOM .99 to DOOM 1.1.  This is the
'regular' way to fix the DOOM/GUS music problem (I am assuming that's what one
of your problems are).  DOOM also becomes more stable at version 1.1.
   It is called DOOM11PT.ZIP and it is available for download from this system
at 14.4kbps.




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From: ANDREW SEE                             Number: 12360
  To: PETER LANE-COLLETT                       Date: 01/13/94 10:54a
Subj: Australian Phone Disc                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

PL>Do you have the blue one or the green one? If you have the old blue
PL>one then  it does have serious problems and needs to be upgraded to
PL>the newer green one.  It is not perfect but works well enough for
PL>what I paid for it.

What exactly can it do? Reverse searches?

Cheers

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From: JACK MILLER                            Number: 12361
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/14/94 12:22a
Subj: MULTIMEDIA                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi!  I'm planning to enter the "Multimedia" world, justifying it by supplying
access to an encyclopedia for my 10 year old daughter and 7 year old son.  I'd
appreciate any advice on the relative cost effectiveness of the Sound Blaster
16 with a the Panasonic 562b compared to the Pro AudioSpecturm 16 with an NEC
CDR-55JD.  I saw the Panasonic didn't require the CD caddy, like the NEC did,
but I heard that the Sound Blaster products aren't as well designed or made as
the PAS.  Encarta looked much better than the Comptons Interactive.

Thanks,

Jack


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From: JASON NEW                              Number: 12362
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/05/94  9:40p
Subj: Rebel Assault                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

HI everyone, I was wondering if anyone out there can help me get this game
running.I've tried every combination I can think of, but all that happens when
I try to run the Rebel config program is that the system crashes, or sometimes
I get a divide error.I can't run the Assault program with any parameters
either, things just crash on me.
        So, if anyone has got this to run could they please help me.I'm running
mine on a Panasonic CR562Bdrive off a SoundBlaster 16.The driver is version
4.07 and I'm using MSCDEX V2.22. No matter what combo of memory managers (none,
qemm 7.03) I still get the same probs...am I using the wrong drivers??
        If anyone could put up their config.sys and autoexec.bat for me here or
netmail it to me I would appreciate it GREATLY.
        Best Regards,
                    Jason


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From: IAN BISHOP                             Number: 12363
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/14/94  4:15p
Subj: No Messages - Please!!                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Anyone who was planning to write to me, yell at me, verbally dismember
me - could you delay it for a little while.

I am having to pull the plug on my system tomorrow, 15th January, in
order to prepare for a move to Mt. Isa to assume my new teaching post.

I will post a message in the relavent conferences once I am able to
communicate via echomail again.

Regards, Ian Bishop

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From: BARRY RYDER                            Number: 12364
  To: IAN BISHOP                               Date: 01/14/94  7:51p
Subj: you?                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Gidday Ian,

I hear you are leaving Brisbane !
Well, before you go, can you tell me if you carry any of the Amiga PD CDs ?
Specifically, I am after the new Aminet disc... not sure if it is actually out
yet, but it cant be far off if it isn't :)

    - Bazza -

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From: BARRY RYDER                            Number: 12365
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 01/14/94  7:55p
Subj: Cd-rom Drives+                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Gidday Joe,

On Jan 04 06:34 94, Joe Rinehart of 1:157/479 wrote:

 JR> ********* Refurbished SCSI NEC Model 36   CD-ROM DRIVES $130 *********
 JR> >>>INTERNATIONAL ORDERS WELCOME<<<

OK... what is that in $ Aus ?

    - Bazza -

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From: LAURIE BATT                            Number: 12366
  To: GIULIANO MACIOCCI JR                     Date: 01/13/94  7:31a
Subj: Dupe Chart?                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

G'day Giuliano Maciocci Jr, In a message on <Dec 13>, you said :

 GMJ> Day of the Tentacle seems good as a game, but for the
 GMJ> shareware I don't know what to buy. I have Night Owl 10,
 GMJ> and would like to buy a new CD (1993) which contains few
 GMJ> files which NO10 also contains. I'm looking for
 GMJ> suggestions for games, shareware and any other CDs. I'd

Try Cream of the Crop II . I dont have a copy but from what I have read it
would be a good choice.


                                        Laurie

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From: JOEL DUMAS                             Number: 12367
  To: ANDREW SEE                               Date: 01/13/94  9:31p
Subj: Re: New Sound Cards ?                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Andrew See to Joel Dumas <=-

 JD>Where can you get one from?
 AS> Well it hasn't been released at this stage, but will be within a month
 AS> or so.
 JD>Has it got a SCSI interface for CDROM?
 AS> Yes.
 JD>Have you got the full specs at all?
 AS> Somewhere I think. I'll have a look, and netmail them to you.

Might be buying a sound card in the future and that would really help,
I'd appreciate it very much.

Cheers,
Joel

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From: WALTER ANTHONY                         Number: 12368
  To: GARY HUFF                                Date: 01/15/94 10:00p
Subj: Re: pre-school suggestio                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 TO ALL: I am still looking for some recommendations for CDRoms for a 4 or 5
year old (boy).  There is a lot of good and bad out there and do not want to
waste my money...... Thanks in advance....Walt

Gary,

GH>When I made my post, I deliberately intended it to cause the reader to
GH>stop and consider exactly what audio is, and to not think of
GH>alternating current as being neatly chopped up into crisp little
GH>divisions, i.e., 60 cycle house current is AC, but nothing else.  The
GH>word "current" does not necessarily have to refer to electrons flowing
GH>through a wire, and that was my point.  Current can also be used to
GH>describe energy (electrons or otherwise) flowing through any media.

Current can refer to many things this is true, however when you refer to
Alternating Current the definition is clear.

A.C. is a current which changes in BOTH magnitude and direction.

GH>If one goes back to the basic definition of "audio," it's obvious that
GH>it has to be alternating in a range of approximately 15 to 15,000
GH>cycles.  (Of course, cats, dogs and bats would have a slightly
GH>different definition of "audio".)  But if the energy (current) is not
GH>alternating - no matter whether if it's flowing through air, wire, or a
GH>light beam (lazer, for example) - then it's not going to be perceived
GH>by the human ear as audio.

I am at a loss in understanding how an individual as learned as yourself can in
fact be ignorant as to the finer definitions involved with the subject debated.
Energy is not synonomous with current. Audio is defined as sound waves in the
Cycle Per Second range that you described.  Sound waves vary in magnitude but
not direction and are not current. Light waves as with lasers also change in
magnitude but not direction and are not current.  The standard presentation on
an oscilloscope represents voltage.  You can look at a sine wave on an
oscilloscope without it being Alternating Current.  A sine wave that never
falls below zero volts is defined as being pulsating Direct Current.  You are
correct that this sine wave does represent a fluctuation in energy, but not
alternating current.

GH>Giberish deleted..................
GH>audio is, indeed, an alternating current (or alternating
GH>energy, if you prefer).  If it were not alternating, but were to remain
GH>steady, then it could not be audio because it would result in an output
GH>signal of 0 cycles...
GH>More giberish deleted.............

Alternating Energy yes Alternating Current no.

Current can vary in magnitude without changing direction, Pulsating DC has both
a varying current and varying voltage BUT the current never changes direction
and is Direct Current(always going in one direction) not alternating current.


Reference:Texas Instruments Learning Center's "Basic Electricity Series" Book
two "Basic AC Circuits" Chapter One, Published by Howard W. Sams & Co.

ATTENTION: The only reply I wish if you still want to continue this line of
conversation is the name of the conference you wish discuss it in.  I will not
answer any replies in this conference.



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From: WALTER ANTHONY                         Number: 12369
  To: BOB BREED                                Date: 01/15/94 10:00p
Subj: Pre-school suggestions                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 Bob,

BB>    My grand-son loves "Arthur's Teacher Trouble," and "Just
BB>Grandma and Me." Both are by Broderbund and run under windows.
BB>Great sound, graphics and have HIGH interest factor since you
BB>interact with the program. (Really impressive stuff.)


Thanks for the reply, your time is appreciated.

Walt

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From: DAN DUNCAN                             Number: 12370
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 01/16/94  8:48a
Subj: !FREE CD CATALOG!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No


JR>> MSGID: 1:157/479 2bbcd535
  >>*********** FREE HUGE CD-ROM DISC & accessories CATALOG!*************
  >>For the largest selection & lowest prices, get our NEW catalog...

  Please send me a catalog at:
  Dan Duncan
  RD 2, Box 219
  Elverson, PA 19520

  Thanks,
  Dan

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From: JOHN ULLMER                            Number: 12371
  To: EDDIE APPELL                             Date: 01/16/94 10:10a
Subj: Re: Advice, please...                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Eddie Appell to John Ullmer <=-

 EA> many games in the future, you won't hear sythesized approximations of
 EA> what the instruments sound like that are playing the music, you'll hear
 EA> the actual instruments! It really is an incredible difference!  And it
 EA> has nothing to with sound quality (i.e. - harmonic distortion, Mhz,
 EA> etc.) it's just a better source for the sound.  The card also has a
 EA> SCSI-II connector on it, which is the current standard for SCSI, so
 EA> when I get a CD-ROM drive it will be compatible with a wide range of
 EA> drives.  It also came with some great software for DOS and Windows.  Oh
 EA> yeah... and it can also emulate the SoundBlaster's FM synthesis, for
 EA> when your feeling a little nostalgic... :)

 EA> Anyways, the card cost me $169 and it was worth every penny. So far
 EA> it's compatible with everything and when I've had to call tech support
 EA> for a couple things, they were very quick and helpful.

 EA> The card I got is the Computer Peripheral's "Viva Maestro 16" and I
 EA> highly recommend it to anyone.

 EA> Hope I helped someone!

 EA> Ed


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        What you say is very interesting.  However, the first CD-ROM
        drive I had in 1989 (NEC 77) played music CD's with exactly
        the same reproduction as the CD player in my sound system.
        If there was any synthesizing going on it, it was not detectable
        to my human ear.  What I hear is the only criterion I use.

        I now have a NEC 3XE, and it plays music CD's with the same
        quality sound reproduction as my SONY music CD player.  If
        there is synthesizing going on, I can't hear, so I don't care.
        I have a Soundblaster (period), though I plan on going to a
        SB16 ASP in the near future.

        However, I don't use my CD reader for listening to music (except to
        test its capabilities).  Music I hear on Inca is "music", not
        synthesized sound.  Music from 7th Guest is syntensized to start
        with, and it comes across as such.

        Maybe this "wunder board" you have has waves or whatever.  But,
        how do you know how compatible it is when you don't even have
        a CD-Reader, and therefore no CD-ROM games to contend with?

        And the $169 you paid is what the SB16 ASP is going for at Best
        Buy the last time I saw an advertisement (Jan. 9, 1994).







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From: JOHN ULLMER                            Number: 12372
  To: NATHAN MCCARTHY                          Date: 01/16/94 10:14a
Subj: Re: cd-rom by dreative                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Nathan Mccarthy to All <=-

 NM> Ok here is my problem.  I have a creative cd-rom
 NM> double-spin with 6 megs of ram and I just got the game
 NM> Cyber race but when I type the exe it says it can't run
 NM> from protected mode.   If anyone has any ideas please
 NM> please respond/.



 NM> Spidey

        So maybe it has to run under WINDOZE.

F


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From: JOHN ULLMER                            Number: 12373
  To: JOEL DUMAS                               Date: 01/16/94 10:55a
Subj: Re: CD-ROM Drive Opinion                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Joel Dumas to Andrew Morrison <=-

 -=> Quoting Andrew Morrison to Laurie Batt <=-

 AM> Hi laurie, thanks for you'r reply. Recently I have seen that tri &
 AM> quad speed drives are becoming available. I think NEC make a tri speed
 AM> at about $999. I might hang out & wait for the technology to filter
 AM> down and get cheaper. I was thinking of just buying the CD-Rom &
 AM> controller card only as long as I can set its Interupts/DMA Channels.

 JD> That $999 is that tax inclusive?  Where can I get one at this price?

 JD> Cheers,
 JD> Joel

        Hey man, don't be so eager to blow your money.  Best
        Buy has Nec 3XE for $489.  Try one of the big electronic
        discount houses in your area, if you don't have a
        Best Buy locally.




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From: JOHN ULLMER                            Number: 12374
  To: KEVIN RICH                               Date: 01/16/94 11:06a
Subj: Re: question                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Kevin Rich to All <=-

 KR> I just put a CD ROM on line for my users. I keep seeing
 KR> things about a "Caddie" can someone explain to me what this
 KR> does, or it's function please.

 KR> Thanks

        That's like asking what the lock is for after the horese
        has been stolen.

        The caddie is the little plastic tray the CD sits in when
        it's inserted into the CD-Drive.  The caddie's about the same
        size and resembles the plastic "caddies" the CD comes in when
        you buy it.

        Some Cd-drivers don't require a caddie.



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From: GLENN GARMAN                           Number: 12375
  To: ROY FUNG                                 Date: 01/18/94  7:33p
Subj: Reveal cdrom                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

RF>Anyone with the Reveal CDRom able to load MSCDEX high?

RF>I would appreciate hearing from you, what switches you used, etc.
RF>Thanks.


I'm loading it high with 386MAX, so apparently it can be done.  Can't help you
on EMM386 switches, etc. though...

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From: TONY MORRIS                            Number: 12376
  To: JASON NEW                                Date: 01/19/94 12:54p
Subj: Rebel Assault                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

* In a message originally to All, Jason New said:
 > HI everyone, I was wondering if anyone out there can help me
 > get this game running.I've tried every combination I can
 > think of, but all that happens when I try to run the Rebel
 > config program is that the system crashes, or sometimes I get
 > a divide error.I can't run the Assault program with any
 > parameters either, things just crash on me.
 >         So, if anyone has got this to run could they please
 > help me.I'm running mine on a Panasonic CR562Bdrive off a
 > SoundBlaster 16.The driver is version 4.07 and I'm using
 > MSCDEX V2.22. No matter what combo of memory managers (none,
 > qemm 7.03) I still get the same probs...am I using the wrong
 > drivers??
 >         If anyone could put up their config.sys and
 > autoexec.bat for me here or netmail it to me I would
 > appreciate it GREATLY.
 >         Best Regards,
 >                     Jason


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hi jason, my name is tony. i think the problem is with the program and not the
configuration of your computer. there is a file that lucas arts has put out
and it fixes all those problems. the name of the file is rebel14.zip. i will
upload it so you can play rebel assault. i think it's a great game.
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From: TONY MORRIS                            Number: 12377
  To: SIMON GLASSER                            Date: 01/19/94  1:04p
Subj: Return to Zork                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

hi simon, i think i have the answer to the meat problem. all you do is carry
it around until it rots. then take it to the buzzards cliff and sprinkle some
farie dust on it. then throw it on the ground and wait till the buzzards eat
it and go to sleep. then go forward and take the buzzards claw. the buzzards
cliff is behind the barn with the cow. the carrots problem can be solved by
milking the cow one time. to do this you need to get the thermozz from the
trailer near the carrot bin. then take some hay and put it on the ground and
light it with a match. use the thermozz on the cow's udder and get the milk.
you will need to get some milk later so don't use the carrots yet.
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From: SCOTT BENNETT                          Number: 12378
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/17/94  3:39p
Subj: MATSHITA CDROM CR5XX                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Does any one have the driver for the Panasonic Matshita CR501 to 562
I am running it on a Aptec controler 1520, and also ran it on a Future
Domain Controler. Same error comes up.  HIGH SIRRIA or 9660 Format. All
My CD's or 9660 format.  Can someone help here.

Thanks Scott

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From: SCOTT BENNETT                          Number: 12379
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/19/94  5:46a
Subj: Format                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Here is my problem.  I have a Panasonic Matsushita-Kotobuki
Model CDI600 CR5XX. I have ran three types of SCSI controlers on this
Drive The SUMU AT SCSI, APTEC 1520, and Future Domain CD Card. All cards
pick up the CD-ROM, However I get a High Sirria, or OSI 9660 Format when
I try to do a DIR on the Drive.  What am I doing wrong.  The drive is
only a 1 year old.  Do I need a different Drive besides aptec
MSCDEX, and FDCD.SYS 2.31.  Or do I have to have the CDMKE.SYS instead.
Please Help.

Scott

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From: SCOTT BENNETT                          Number: 12380
  To: MATT DELCO                               Date: 01/19/94  6:06a
Subj: Panasonic 562/563                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> DW>i would like to know the difference between the panasonic 562 and 563
-> cdroms
->   >i heard the 563 (creative labs omni) is the only panasonic that will
->   >interface to the sb16 mcd card. i would like to know if this is correct
-> sinc
->   >i have a sb16 multicd card and want a drive that will hook directly to
->   >thanks for the help.
->   >doug warren


-> My CD-ROM was made by Matsushita-kotobuki.  I believe I heard that
-> Matsuchita and Panasonic make the CD-ROM together.  My CD-ROM is model
-> 563-B.  I read someplace that the OMNI CD is the 562, but the OMNI CD
-> may have moved up to the 563 (my guess is the 563 is just a newer model)
-> My 563 plugs into my Sound Blaster PRO, so if its the same

-> (which it probably is, mine looks just like the OMNI CD, except it
-> doesn't have the advertising "Creative" on the front)

-> it will work in the Multi-CD, since it not only supports Creative Lab's
-> CD-ROM (Panasonic-Matsuchita) it also supports Sony and Mitsumi.  The
-> CD-ROM I got says on the case itself says its made by Matsushita, but
-> the cardboard box says Reveal on the outside.  It was bought at
-> Egghead Software.  My guess its the same thing, but $100 less. It works
-> fine so far.

MATT, Sorry for cutting in. I to have a Panasonic-Matsushita, but I am having
problems with it.  I keep getting High Siarra, or ISO 9660 Format when I try
to do a dir on the CD Rom.  I tried three differt cards Sumo's AT Scsi, Future
Domain, and APTEC 1520, all cards find the CD Rom fine, but can not read it. I
used the FDCD.SYS from Future Domain, and used the APTEC APSICD.SYS on the
APTEC.  Is there a differnt Driver that I need or is the CD ROM bad it self.
Its only a Year old.  Can you shed some light.

Scott



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From: JOHN ALLISON                           Number: 12381
  To: THE LAWMAN                               Date: 01/19/94  2:28p
Subj: Question                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 On 01-16-94 THE LAWMAN wrote to AMANDA HARRIS...

 TL> qemm. If somebody knows different, let her know so I'll know.
 The simplest solution is to add /l:e to MSCDEX in AUTOEXEC.BAT
 This ensures the CDROM will always be E: regardless of other factors.


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From: JOE PYE                                Number: 12382
  To: RICHARD MAY                              Date: 01/19/94  6:38a
Subj: SCSI vs. IDE                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Richard!

14 Jan 94 20:50, Richard May wrote to Hugh Craig:

 RM>    Food for thought.  I hate to sound arrogant but
 RM> SCSI-for-the-end-user is aimed at people with more money than
 RM> brains...

I'm an end user, and if you can show me a 2.4 gig IDE in the same price range
as a 2.4 gig SCSI then you can make absurd comments like this.  And scsi has
many more advantages other than just the hard drives.  Cd-Roms' and scanners,
and a lot of other neat and expensive stuff.
Joe

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From: BARON SCHWING                          Number: 12383
  To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                       Date: 01/18/94 10:40p
Subj: SMARTDRV AND CD                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On (13 Jan 94) Brice Fleckenstein wrote to James Summers...

 BF>  Yes, as of the SmartDrive included in MS-DOS 6.2 - but that version
 BF> appears to
 BF> be BUGGY....

What Kind of Bugs have you run into ? I have been running it for a
Month or so and haven't had any problems. What software etc. did you
experience the problems with ?


Thanks, B.


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From: TIM PEETERS                            Number: 12384
  To: BERTRAND GROS                            Date: 01/17/94 10:15p
Subj: Night Owls 10                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

┌─ Bertrand!
└──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────[See Below]

Friday January 14 1994 17:11, Bertrand Gros wrote to All:

 BG┌─> Can someone tell me what are the names of these both files ?

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Scanning Volume: MS-RAMDRIVE

Scanning E:.\INSTALL.COM
  Found the Butterfly [Bfly] Virus
Scanning E:.\DOCUMENT.COM
  Found the Butterfly [Bfly] Virus
Scanning E:.\SPORTS.COM
  Found the Butterfly [Bfly] Virus
 Found 3 files containing viruses.

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Options: E:*.* /BELL /CHKHI /DATE /M /REPORT C:\SCAN.RPT /SUB
Scanning Volume: MS-RAMDRIVE

Scanning E:.\SF2-UP.EXE
  Found the Memory Lapse [ML] Virus
 Found 1 file containing a virus.


SeeYa,
Tim

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From: JOHN THOMPSON                          Number: 12385
  To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                       Date: 01/17/94 11:15a
Subj: SMARTDRV AND CD                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>  I have but one question.  Can DOS Smartdrv Cache a CD-rOm?

BF>   Yes, as of the SmartDrive included in MS-DOS 6.2 - but that version
BF>  appears to be BUGGY....

Hmmm...that's news to me!  What sort of problems have you had with it?

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From: JOHN THOMPSON                          Number: 12386
  To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                       Date: 01/17/94  1:31p
Subj: ARCHIVAL CD DEVELOPMENT                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

BF>  Also, you'll find that most folks do NOT like "multi-niche" products
BF>  as well as "niche but not quite full" products - too many folks that do
BF>  NOT associate any 2 particular niches, as a general rule.
BF>
BF>  The Walnut Creek "Garbo" disc is a good example - about half full of
BF>  Mac stuff, the rest of the disc padded out with MS-DOS stuff, and the
BF>  only folks I've ever sold it to were Sysops (to date) or Mac fans that
BF>  wanted EVERYTHING available for the Mac.

That may be true, but even though I use a PC I've managed to get a heck of a
lot of upload credits uploading those Garbo Mac files to BBS's with Mac
file areas.  The Macintosh shareware world just doesn't seem to move quite
as quickly as the PC one, and most of the Garbo Mac files had never been
available in this area before.

I wonder about your depiction of the Garbo disk as "padded out" with DOS
stuff -- I bought it for the DOS software; I didn't even know the Mac stuff
was on there until I got the disk.  Since there's about 250 megs of DOS
stuff and only about 150 megs of Mac stuff on it, it may be more accurate to
describe the disk as a DOS disk padded out with Mac stuff :-)

>It would be great if archival CD's  would include 4DOS descript.ion files

BF>  Not really - while 4DOS is a nice utility, there are VERY few folks
BF>  that use it.

Once again I must take exception to your choice of qualifiers.  "Relatively
few" would be better.  I know a great many people who use 4DOS and this
number can be augmented by the many people using NDOS that came with Norton
Utilities.  NDOS is simply a licensed version of 4DOS and makes use of the
same DESCRIPT.ION files (as well as the other 4DOS enhancements).  The
latest SIMTEL20 cdrom (10/93) uses 4DOS descriptions and I find this to be
very useful.  I've even seen batch files for converting the DESCRIPT.ION
file to FILES.BBS for a number of BBS software versions.

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From: JOHN THOMPSON                          Number: 12387
  To: TONY STOTT                               Date: 01/17/94  1:38p
Subj: Caches                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

SB> Smartdrv 5.0 will - but its part of Dos 6.2 - what you really need is
SB> Qemm or some other memory manager. The drivers eat memory, i.e CR56X =
SB> 11K, Smartdrv = 30K - Ive lots of TSR's loaded and the best i can get
SB> without Qemm is 528K - with 630K!

TS>  Steve, you DON'T need Qemm to get enough memory. Here, running DOS 6.0,
TS>  I have 523k available memory AFTER logging onto a Banyan LAN, as
TS>  below:-
TS>
TS>    Type of Memory          Total       =       Used        +    Free
TS>    --------------  ---------------- -----------------  ---------------
TS>    Conventional    655360   (640K)  119456   (117K)    535904   (523K)
TS>    Upper           142304   (139K)  142304   (139K)         0     (0K)
TS>    Adapter RAM/ROM 393216   (384K)  393216   (384K)         0     (0K)
TS>    Extended (XMS) 7197728  (7029K) 6149152  (6005K)   1048576  (1024K)
TS>    --------------  ---------------- ----------------  ---------------
TS>    Total memory   8388608  (8192K) 6804128  (6645K)   1584480  (1547K)
TS>
TS>    Total under1MB  797664   (779K)  261760   (256K)    535904   (523K)
TS>
TS>  The Banyan drivers use up 70k up high, so outside the LAN, I have 593k.
TS>  Every software I throw at the PC works great... IMHO, QEMM is not
TS>  necessary in most cases, as good ol' DOS can usually get the job done.


Indeed.  Although I have no doubt that QEMM does an excellent job managing
memory, why pay for more software when what you may already have can do the
job?  On my non-networked PC I can get 620k free using DOS's memmaker:

Memory Summary:

  Type of Memory       Total   =    Used    +    Free
  ----------------  ----------   ----------   ----------
  Conventional         655,360       20,640      634,720
  Upper                166,784      143,920       22,864
  Reserved             393,216      393,216            0
  Extended (XMS)     7,173,248    2,479,232    4,694,016
  ----------------  ----------   ----------   ----------
  Total memory       8,388,608    3,037,008    5,351,600

  Total under 1 MB     822,144      164,560      657,584

  Largest executable program size        634,704   (620K)
  Largest free upper memory block         21,584    (21K)
  MS-DOS is resident in the high memory area.

And yes, this is with SMARTDRV loaded high and caching the CDROM drive...

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From: DAVID SILVER                           Number: 12388
  To: JEFF DENNINGTON                          Date: 01/18/94  9:30a
Subj: Norton Speedcache                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi Jeff,

Sunday January 16 1994 08:01, Jeff Dennington wrote to Jeroen Van De Leur:

 JD>  There is no way to use Norton 7 to Cache a Cd-Rom. The Only program I
 JD>  Know of is SmartCache From Dos 6.2

Beside Smartdrive, there is also Norton's SpeedCache + and at least one or 2
others.

David

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From: DENNIS HOENICH                         Number: 12389
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/19/94  2:46p
Subj: questions                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I have a few questions on sound cards. I am looking at getting a CD-ROM
drive in the very near future. I currently have an Adaptek 1542B SCSI
controller (bus mastering) that I will connect it to. Because of this
I do not care if my sound card has a SCSI interface or not. I would like
some advive on what sound card to get. I am looking at a Sound Blaster
16 Basic, Logitec Soundman 16, Media Vision 16, and Gravis Ultrasound.
They all seem to be in the $120 - $130 range. Is the Logitec and Media
Vision card exactly the same? How is SB compatability on these cards?
How do you rate these cards in order of preference? I realize that the
SB card should be the best for compatability, but is it that important
anymore? Is there anything else I should be looking at and why?

Second subject: Is anyone out there using the Adaptek card and either a
NEC 3xi drive or Toshiba 3401 drive? If so, how well is it performing?
What drivers do you need to make it work?

Thanks for any and all help.  Dennis Hoenich


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From: DENNIS HOENICH                         Number: 12390
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/19/94  4:29p
Subj: sound board                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I have a few questions on sound cards. I am looking at getting a CD-ROM
drive in the very near future. I currently have an Adaptek 1542B SCSI
controller (bus mastering) that I will connect it to. Because of this
I do not care if my sound card has a SCSI interface or not. I would like
some advive on what sound card to get. I am looking at a Sound Blaster
16 Basic, Logitec Soundman 16, Media Vision 16, and Gravis Ultrasound.
They all seem to be in the $120 - $130 range. Is the Logitec and Media
Vision card exactly the same? How is SB compatability on these cards?
How do you rate these cards in order of preference? I realize that the
SB card should be the best for compatability, but is it that important
anymore? Is there anything else I should be looking at and why?

Second subject: Is anyone out there using the Adaptek card and either a
NEC 3xi drive or Toshiba 3401 drive? If so, how well is it performing?
What drivers do you need to make it work?

Thanks for any and all help.  Dennis Hoenich
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From: LARRY STOPPEL                          Number: 12391
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 01/19/94  8:11p
Subj: Re: !free Cd catalog!                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 JR> *********** FREE HUGE CD-ROM DISC & accessories
 JR> CATALOG!************* For the largest selection & lowest
 JR> prices, get our NEW catalog... If you'd like a printed copy,
 JR> send your mailing information to us. CATALOG FREQ: cdlist.zip

        I would like to recieve your new CD catalog.  Please send it to:
                Larry D. Stoppel
                123 W. 4th
                Washington, KS  66968

        Thanks!

Larry Stoppel

... Bugs come in through open Windows.
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From: KENSHIN SAKURA                         Number: 12392
  To: JOEY SUNDAY                              Date: 01/19/94  6:43p
Subj: Re: T7G maze                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

*** Quoting Joey Sunday to Kenshin Sakura ***

JS>  What, the maze? It has a solution, I have solved it. It's too
JS> long to
JS> post though, but a hint is, head straight down to the 2nd to last
JS> branch
JS> from the main corridor. It's in that turnpike. Try maping it out
JS> and it
JS> can be solved.

     Nope, I was talking about the microscope puzzle. I solved the maze on my
own. I just went thru it systematically. It took a while but I mapped it out so
I won't have to do it again :)

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From: DONALD WEN                             Number: 12393
  To: JOHN BARTA                               Date: 01/19/94  8:31a
Subj: Wanted beatles cd                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Oh, could you restate the problem you've had with the program?  Could be your
single speed drive not up to snuff...mine is a 330kB/sec Toshiba 3401.


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From: FRANKY WONG                            Number: 12394
  To: =                                        Date: 01/16/94  2:18p
Subj: Nec 3Xi                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi,

Sorry to break into your conversation, but I am so eager to ask you a few
questions.

You mean your PAS 16 has an external SCSI connection?  If not, what should I
buy to connect to an external SCSI drive?  By PAS 16 you mean the Studio one?


Thanks.


BV>Hello Laurent!

BV>I don't know much about the Nec but I can tell you everything about the Tosh
BV>3401 because I own this drive and it works GREEAAATTTTT !!!!!
BV>But I do own a PAS 16 soundcard and I use the SCSI for my Toshiba and never
BV>any problem.
BV>I don't think that you need to buy extra SCSI cables, because the PAS 16 has
BV>and SCSI/2 connector

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From: PATRICK MCCORMICK                      Number: 12395
  To: JOE RINEHART                             Date: 01/09/94 12:11a
Subj: Re: Cd-rom Drives+                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Joe Rinehart to All <=-

 JR> ********* ********* Refurbished SCSI NEC Model 36   CD-ROM DRIVES $130
 JR> FidoNet 1:157/479 - RBBSNet 8:965/13 - KesherNet 18:711/176
 JR> Joe Rinehart / config.sys, Inc.     Voice: [phone]  -  24 hours
 JR>  ! Origin: Home of config.sys, Inc.-Discount CD's-Kent, Oh (1:157/479)

Hi Joe, with seeing this message, I guess I could say my drive are on
there way..I hope..I hope..Also I told a business that is just starting
up about you and gave them all your phone numbers so you might be
hearing from them soon, the name is MEGABYTE....I'll be looking for the
drives..
Later and NICE doing business with you..
Patrick..

... A clean desk is a sign of a cluttered desk drawer.
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From: LOUISE NORTON                          Number: 12396
  To: TONY STOTT                               Date: 01/19/94  7:17p
Subj: reply]]                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi Tony. Sorry to have messed up your area but it was a unfortunate mistake.
You are right they do have very sharp teeth and all c d's must be kept save at
all times.  I am sorry to have bothered your special area please forgive a very
old lady trying to keep up. Thanks. Louise
.

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From: LOUISE NORTON                          Number: 12397
  To: DAVE REED                                Date: 01/19/94  7:21p
Subj: Ferrets                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Dave. One..... I was not educated in your school system..Thank You God..
Because if all they turn out is people like you we are in bad shape.
   Two.... you really showed the world how insecure you are with your use of
the language.
   Three....I have talked to several computer people who can still read this
old ladies message, one a nephew with a P.H.D. in Computer Science and has
written several tecnical computer books, published even and is a top computer
expert.   if they can get these messages and red them that is all that is
important.. not pis ants like you.
   Three.... why dont you take your EGO put it on a manure wagon and get the
heck off this bbs.


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From: LOUISE NORTON                          Number: 12398
  To: JOHN ULLMER                              Date: 01/19/94  7:29p
Subj: Re: Ferrets.                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Sorry had a computer BBS problema and did'nr know I was in wrong area. Mia
Culpa.


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From: TOM MILLER                             Number: 12399
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 01/20/94 10:57a
Subj: Night Owl 11                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

BO>            N E W   N I G H T  O W L  11.  R E L E A S E

Boris,
    Are you shipping the Owl 11 if not can you post a note when thay
     start going out.


                                                 Thanks
                                                   T.

Tom Miller
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 12400
  To: RICK PEDLEY                              Date: 01/18/94  3:31p
Subj: CD ROM INFO                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>And anyway, what if we had had 32-bit in 1980? You can count the number of
>commercial 32-bit DOS apps on your fingers in _1994_.

 Not quite - though they CAN be listed on a single sheet of paper without
printing/typing them TOO small....

 On the other hand, had the data width been available that early, we likely
WOULD have a lot of such applications by now....


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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 12401
  To: LESLIE RHORER                            Date: 01/18/94  3:37p
Subj: CD ROM INFO                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>BF> >I criticised IBM and Intel HEAVILY for not
> BF> >providing a 32 bit wide data structure in 1980

> BF>  Excessive - complaining about being 8 bit instead of 16 bit I would have

>        No, not excessive.  A 32 bit word is the first one which does not
>require either string operations or a kludge like segmented memory to
calculate
>full addresses in a reasonable address range.

 True - but since MINIcomputers first started going 32 bit in that SAME
timeframe, expecting MICROcomputers to do so at that time is excessive.
 Also, a 64K address space for a micro in 1980 WAS reasonable - barely.

 Also, address + offset type stuff was WELL known by that time, and could
easily handle 32 bit address calculations - it's Intel's FIXED "address"
incrament segmentation that's such a pain....

>Segmented memory

 Is generally an abomination - as I have mentioned elsewhere.

>A flat address space should have been the FIRST priority of any designers.

 You're preaching to the converted here....

>And just for the record, the PC was 20 bit, not 8.

 8 bit data path, 20 bit addressing. There has NEVER been a real requirement
for the data path and address path to be the same size in microcomputers.

> BF> agreed with, but NO microcomputer was 32 bit (data width) THAT far back.

>        That s true, but them IBM, like every one else in the executive wing
of
>the industry, considered PC's to be toys.  Mainframes and minis were 32 and
>even 64 bits, with up to 128 bit floating point units.

 Minis were just STARTING to do 32 bits - VAX 11/780 and 11/750 were the ENTIRE
LIST 'till late '80. Most MAINFRAMES were still 32 bit at that time.


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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 12402
  To: TIM HELTON                               Date: 01/18/94  3:40p
Subj: *_RECORDABLE CD-ROMS                    Refer: NONE
Read: 01/23/94  6:01p                       Private: No

>->  Please define "occasionally".
>->
>->  Once a week?
>->  Once a month?

>I mean occasionally as is occasionally, as defined in the "use your brain"
>section of the CDROM policies & procedures manual.

 I'm not trying to be insulting or such, but a lot of folks don't appear to
HAVE a brain to use, and a "definite" limit seems to work better than a
not-really-defined limit like "occasionally".
 Also, people VARY - what one person may consider "occasionally" the next may
consider "excessively annoyingly often"....


 * SLMR 2.1a * Is there a Lawyer in the house? BOOM! Are there any more?

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 12403
  To: TIM HELTON                               Date: 01/18/94  5:06p
Subj: THIS ECHO                               Refer: NONE
Read: 01/23/94  6:02p                       Private: No

>Planet Connect is taking over the world.... The U.S.A. is already a done deal

 Not QUITE yet, but getting there rapidly....

 8-)


 * SLMR 2.1a * If this was a REAL emergency, you' have been trampled!

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 12404
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 01/18/94  5:08p
Subj: CDROM SYSTEMS                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>Might be a good idea to get into the shipping business and "Hand Deliever"
>every package.

 I usually DO that on "local" orders....

 8-)


 * SLMR 2.1a * This is your modem - τhïs ï$ µöÜΓ möδ▒M ö▒ δΓÜgs

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 12405
  To: LESLIE PARKER                            Date: 01/18/94  5:10p
Subj: GOOD SHAREWARE CDS                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>Monster Media has a lot of BBS programs and utilities. It comes out 3 times a
>year. The most recent one (if not out now, it should be out soon) is Monster
>Media '93 No. 3.

 Due out in a month or two, given their past track record.

>I can't find an address or phone # for Monster Media Inc, but I got a copy of
>Monster Media '93 No. 2 from Starvector Software in Yakima, WA for $29. MM has
>the greatest emphasis on BBS software that I've seen.

 #3 to RBBS-In-A-Box and to Shareware Online, though not by a WIDE margin. I
also like the included PRINT copy of the file listings.

 I also carry it at $29....


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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 12406
  To: CHRISTOPH STEINECKE                      Date: 01/18/94  6:55p
Subj: WORLD ATLAS PROGRA                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>BF> Delorme Global Explorer sounds like what you are looking for - but it's
NOT
>BF>inexpensive (I sell it for around $250 or so). It INCLUDES their Street
>BF>Atlas product, though....

>  Strange , I got mine for 85$

 My mistake, I partly confused "Global Explorer" with their "Map Expert"
product....


 * SLMR 2.1a * You live and learn. Or you don't live long.

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 12407
  To: JAMES PARKER                             Date: 01/18/94 10:02p
Subj: INTERACTIVE ADULT                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>->  ratings up again, but I saw something about Huster and Penthouse, an
>->  getting into the Adult CD market.

>I saw an ad for a Penthouse interactive but the price was high - $129!

 $129 list. I suspect some of the dealers here can beat that somewhat - I could
do so, if I carried "X" rated titles.

 There's also the "extra cost" associated with a "brand name" product....


 * SLMR 2.1a * Old is needing a fireworks permit for your birthday cake.

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 12408
  To: DON RIEB                                 Date: 01/18/94 10:03p
Subj: NIGHT OWL 10                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

From: DON RIEB                     Refer#: 36
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                Recvd: NO
Subj: NIGHT OWL 10                   Conf: (22) CDROM
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>I have Night Owl 10 for $33.

 Don - Doug is a DEALER. ANd your $33 price for NO10 is a bit on the high side
- most of us have been at $30 or less for a couple months or more....


 * SLMR 2.1a * Fatal error - no Caffine found - Sysop not loaded.

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 12409
  To: DON RIEB                                 Date: 01/18/94 10:05p
Subj: CREAM OF THE CROP                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>I have not seen dealer prices from you

 I just got a copy of Cream of the Crop II from one of my regular distributors
- haven't asked Terry about his dealer terms yet.

 I don't know if I'm going to get a chance to take a GOOD look at it, but it's
fairly high on my list of "check it out" titles right now....


 * SLMR 2.1a * Sailors do it in the waves....

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 12410
  To: GARY PITTMAN                             Date: 01/18/94 10:07p
Subj: DONATELLI CD'S                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>Do any of you have any of the Donatelli Lingerie CD's available?

 I think Telecentral carries one or more of them - [phone].


 * SLMR 2.1a * "I thoughtlessly reinstalled Windoze the other night."

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 12411
  To: WALTER ANTHONY                           Date: 01/19/94 12:21p
Subj: PRE-SCHOOL SUGGESTIONS                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>many audio systems output to the speakers by modulating a
>DC (direct current) carrier voltage.

 NOT. Such systems are VERY rare, and the actual output to the speaker WILL
have a capasitor or transformer to block that DC level from getting to the
speaker.

>To the Moderator:  Any suggestion as to what conference may be more
>           appropriate for this discussion.

 DR_DEBUG would be more appropriate.

>To ALL: Any suggestions for CD-ROMS and ambitious 4yr old, to keep him
occupied
>and maybe teach him something along the way?

 The "Kids Can Read" series, "Just Grandma and Me", among others.


 * SLMR 2.1a * Windows - the best $89 Solitare game you can buy!

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 12412
  To: RAY DENALLI                              Date: 01/19/94 12:28p
Subj: FLORIDA STATUTES ON CD                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>Does anyone know where I can find a copy or copies of the Florida Statutes on
>CD

 WestLaw

>and about what the price might be?

 NOT Inexpen$$$$ive....


 * SLMR 2.1a * 25.806975 - Square Root of the Beast

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 12413
  To: GRAHAM GELBERG                           Date: 01/19/94  2:26p
Subj: ENCYCLOPEDIAS                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>Question:  Is the Software Toolworks Mutimedia Encyclopedia the same thing as
>the Grolier Encyclopedia?

 STW version 5 essentially IS the "Grolier's" version 5.
 The STW MPC version 1 appears to have been intermediary between STW5 and
Grolier's 6.

 Software Toolworks did so MUCH with the package that Grolier's let STW take
the credit for 5 and MPC1 (or so goes the story I have been told).

 ALL of the above are based on various of the Grolier print encyclopedias.


 * SLMR 2.1a * (A)bort, (F)ail, (R)etry, (I)nfluence with Sledgehammer?

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 12414
  To: TRANE FRANCKS                            Date: 01/19/94  2:31p
Subj: GOOD SHAREWARE CD                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>Since I can
>only have one CD-ROM online,  it makes sense for me to get one that has a lot
>of the  classic great stuff on it....

 Simtel20 would be MY choice for that.

>I keep thinking that Cream of the Crop may do the trick.  Whaddaya think about
>that CD?

 Haven't seen a copy of the first one yet, so can't compare it. On the other
hand, I've telecommunicated with Keith Peterson (past and current "keeper of
the archives" for Simtel20) for years, and USE large chunks of stuff that is on
Simtel20....


 * SLMR 2.1a * Teenage Mutant Ninja TRIBBLES?!?!?!?

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From: SPENCER BITZ                           Number: 12415
  To: RICHARD STROH                            Date: 01/19/94 11:30p
Subj: Comment                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I don't know if you were trying to get a hold of me or not at 2327hrs
01/19/94 . I got a bunch of gibberish at the bottom of the display.
This happened twice. If you were trying to reach me, I didn't
understand you. If you wern't then this message means nothing.

                                           Spencer Bitz

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From: GENE EHRICH                            Number: 12416
  To: DOUG VANVLEET                            Date: 01/20/94 11:48a
Subj: Cd-rom                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

DV>  Anyone have any cd's for sale.... I would like sharware cd's if I
DV>could get some cheap..


CD-ROMS for Sale

Multimedia Audobom Mammals .....................  $18 Great Cities Volume 2
..........................  $18 Interactive Storytime Volume 1
.................  $18 TimeTable of History ...........................  $18
Software Options CD from IBM ...................  $13 The World Factbook - DOS
....................... SOLD Calculus (Anton) 1st 3 chapters ................
$20 Loom ...........................................  $22 Tax-Prep 1993
..................................  $12 CD-ROM Premier
.................................  $12 Time Almanac 1990
..............................  $14 PC Globe, PC USA and Automap
................... SOLD Novell Network Support Encyclopedia ............  $59
PC Sig Library 8th edition .....................  $ 9 PC Sig Library 9th
edition ..................... SOLD Made in the USA - Fourth edition
...............  $14 Sneek Peeks from Sierra ........................  $13
Corel Art Show 3 with large Book ............... SOLD Phoenix-CD Version 3.0
.........................  $12 Chessmaster 3000 ...............................
 $22

Plus shipping - $2.90 for up to five disks
                free if you order more than five

Gene Ehrich   P.O. Box 209   Marlton NJ   08053-0209
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From: BILL LAWRENCE                          Number: 12417
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/19/94  6:07p
Subj: For Sale or Trade                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

           1.  I have a IBM game called Might and Magic III Isles of Terra
          It is a nice game with hint boot and all papers and Registration
          card like new For trade or Sale for $13.00+$2.00 for shipping.

     2.   For Trade or Sale The Legend of Kyrandia Book One with all papers
like
     new. $13.00+$2.00 for shipping
                       Bill Lawrence
                       2437 Capitop ave
                       Orlando Fl 32818
                       407-295-5813
... ebius tagline. This is a moebius tagline. This is a mo ...
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From: BILL LAWRENCE                          Number: 12418
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/19/94  6:07p
Subj: For Sale or Trade CD                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No





     For Trade or Sale one CD The Software Toolworks Illustrated Encyclopedia
     for IMB with user's Manual and Registration card. $13.00+$2.00 for
     shipping. Bill Lawrence
               2437 Capitol ave
               Orlando Fl 32818
               407-295-5813

... File not found. Should I fake it? (Y/N)
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From: GIULIANO MACIOCCI JR                   Number: 12419
  To: CHAD REID                                Date: 01/16/94 11:59p
Subj: Re: cheap imitations                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi Chad!


 On dark and windy Friday December 24 1993, Chad Reid bellowed:

 CR> Have you ever had any experience with a Pro Audio card?

Sorry to butt in, but have you ever heard of overquoting? :-)

TTYL......... Raver
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From: GIULIANO MACIOCCI JR                   Number: 12420
  To: PAT RILEY                                Date: 01/17/94  9:58a
Subj: Re: CR-562B Controller                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi PAT!


 On dark and windy Wednesday December 29 1993, PAT RILEY bellowed:

 PR> Anyone have a Panasonic CR-562B Controller sitting around they don't
 PR> use?

Uh, yeah, but I happen to be in Zimbabwe... Sorry...

TTYL......... Raver
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From: GIULIANO MACIOCCI JR                   Number: 12421
  To: REMY DE.RUYSSCHER                        Date: 01/17/94 12:15a
Subj: Re: Encyclopedia                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi Remy!


 On dark and windy Friday December 24 1993, Remy de.Ruysscher bellowed:

 RdR> But I would prefer ENCARTA'94 because it has MUCH MUCH more articles
 RdR> and animations (and it's from MS so it has to be good!)....

                     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
HAARR HARR HAR HAR HAR HAR!!!! MS --S.U.C.K.S--, Windows DOUBLE SUCKS!!

           "MS Windows 3.1, Gates' best achievement since Edlin"

TTYL......... Raver
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From: GIULIANO MACIOCCI JR                   Number: 12422
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/14/94  6:03p
Subj: Modems etc....                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi All!

I have a smallish slightly off-topic question for the sea of minds out there:

I plan to buy a good, though reasonably priced 14.4 modem, and I was
considering the most appealing SupraFAXModem 144LC ($179.95, external.)
Is it any good? Does it have compatibility glitches? MNP? What protocols (V.42
etc...)

My thanks to the few people who ever helped me before and tho those who'll give
me a hand this time.

TTYL......... Raver
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From: GIULIANO MACIOCCI JR                   Number: 12423
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/14/94  5:58p
Subj: OS2/2.1                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi All!

I may soon buy a copy of OS2/2.1 on CD-ROM, but I have a question to ask:

My hard drive is compressed with Stacker 3.1 (Excellent!) and I was wondering
if I'd be able to install OS2/2.1 on it without having to reformat everything.
I have a 386/DX-40 with 4MB RAM (Planning to buy more) and a 120MB HD stacked
to approx 233MB (Quite true, since I get an overall compression ratio of 1.8!)

Any help? Please? Pretty please? Pretty please with a cherry on top? :-)

TTYL......... Raver
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From: GIULIANO MACIOCCI JR                   Number: 12424
  To: KEVIN WRIGHT                             Date: 01/17/94 12:07a
Subj: Re: Panasonic 562B                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi Kevin!


 On dark and windy Wednesday December 22 1993, Kevin Wright bellowed:

 KW> Try Terminate as its brilliant and has CD player built in.

Ah, yes! I love that software too, I have version 1.2 and I LOVE IT! The only
comms prog you'll ever need. Figure people going to pay thousands of dollars
for commercial comms software while Terminate beats 'em all! Another great
thing I discovered in NO10.
TTYL......... Raver
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CP 2.00 [GM] ■ I call things as I see them. Otherwise, I make them up.

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From: GIULIANO MACIOCCI JR                   Number: 12425
  To: ED WELCH                                 Date: 01/17/94 12:33a
Subj: Re: PANASONIC 562B                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi Ed!


 On dark and windy Sunday December 26 1993, Ed Welch bellowed:

 EW> i've got a sb pro and i'm thinking of getting the panasonic double
 EW> speed cd-rom drive should i get it?

Yes, definitely, absolutely yes yes and again yes. I have one, love it.
Everyone loves this drive!

TTYL......... Raver
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From: GIULIANO MACIOCCI JR                   Number: 12426
  To: DAVE ELLISON                             Date: 01/17/94 12:50a
Subj: Re: SCAN 109                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi Dave!


 On dark and windy Tuesday December 14 1993, Dave Ellison bellowed:

 DE> I don't know if it cleans it, but it finds the B-FLY variant and
 DE> Memory Lapse 366-A.  I'd ditch scan for Thunderbyte 609 or F-Prot 210
 DE> though, because SCAN misses 5-10% or more of all other viruses.  Check
 DE> out the VIRUS_INFO echo and you'll find that out _real quick_!

I wish I HAD the VIRUS_INFO echo! Thanks for the tip.

TTYL......... Raver
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CP 2.00 [GM] ■ "Quite a motley crew you've assembled here, Benji." * Q

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From: GIULIANO MACIOCCI JR                   Number: 12427
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/10/94  2:14p
Subj: Star Control                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi All!

I've come across lots of MODs ripped from this game, Star Control (2?) but I
had never heard of the game itself before. Any info? Is it out on CD? What's it
like? Thanks in advance.

TTYL......... Raver
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From: GIULIANO MACIOCCI JR                   Number: 12428
  To: KYLE MACHULIS                            Date: 01/17/94 12:13a
Subj: Re: Trouble...                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi Kyle!


 On dark and windy Friday December 24 1993, Kyle Machulis bellowed:

 KM> Havin problems.... I'm tring to run the SOFTWARE TOOLWORKS MULTIMEDIA
 KM> ENCYCLOPEDIA 1992... And when I try to run video.. It says INSUFFECENT
 KM> MEMORY.... Yet i have QEMM running, and have 645k free... How do I get
 KM> this to run right?

Try increasing the size of your virtual memory, in the 386 Enhanced icon in the
Control Panel... That's if you're running it on a 386.

TTYL......... Raver
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CP 2.00 [GM] ■ Damit Jim, I'm a doctor, not a bricklayer!

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From: GIULIANO MACIOCCI JR                   Number: 12429
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 01/17/94 10:11a
Subj: Re: VIRUS                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi Doug!


 On dark and windy Saturday January 01 1994, Doug Carpenter bellowed:

 DC> Funny thing also, is SCAN is not the best choice in scanning for
 DC> viruses, as it only scans for viruses already in existance.  One needs
 DC> something like Norton Antivirus that does this and also scans for CRC
 DC> changes, etc.

Actually SCAN enables you to add check and recovery codes to all executable
files on a disk, thus allowing for "unknown virus" detection. RTM.

TTYL......... Raver
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CP 2.00 [GM] ■ NUMBER CRUNCHING:  Jumping on a Computer.

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From: GIULIANO MACIOCCI JR                   Number: 12430
  To: BRYAN ANSLOW                             Date: 01/17/94 12:05a
Subj: Re: Windows and PC's Cr*p               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi Bryan!


 On dark and windy Wednesday December 22 1993, Bryan Anslow bellowed:

 BA> I, like many other PC users, seem to put up with software which
 BA> crashes with alarming regularity, for instance Windows which seems to
 BA> have no hardware error recovery whatsoever with the tiniest I/O error
 BA> on a floppy disk causing an immediate exit to DOS.

Face it: Windows sucks. That doesn't mean PC's suck, too. It simply means The
Nerd has unleashed another ultra-pumped up heap of s**t, and that OS2/2.1 might
be worth a try after all. Don't you agree?

TTYL......... Raver
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Less popular brand of cigarettes: Gee, Your Lungs Smell Terrific

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From: GIULIANO MACIOCCI JR                   Number: 12431
  To: NORM HILL                                Date: 01/17/94  6:44p
Subj: Re: Reveal                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi Norm!


 On dark and windy Monday January 10 1994, Norm Hill bellowed:

 GMJ>> 290ms ? Aren't they supposed to be 320ms? Info, please?

 NH> It might be advertised as 320ms but just like a lot of things some out

Way cool! Thanks for the info, now I love my Pan even more! ;-)

TTYL......... Raver
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CP 2.00 [GM] ■ The Unknown Soldier...better him than me * Bill Clinton

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From: CURTIS BURISCH                         Number: 12432
  To: GIULIANO MACIOCCI JR                     Date: 01/17/94 11:02a
Subj: Re: Star Control                        Refer: NONE
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Hi Giuliano!

 On Monday January 10 1994, Giuliano Maciocci Jr spake thus:

 GMJ> I've come across lots of MODs ripped from this game, Star Control (2?)
 GMJ> but I had never heard of the game itself before. Any info? Is it out
 GMJ> on CD? What's it like? Thanks in advance.

I just heard about it about 10 minutes ago!!! I'll be getting it on Tuesday.

l8r,

Curtis.
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From: GIULIANO MACIOCCI JR                   Number: 12433
  To: CURTIS BURISCH                           Date: 01/17/94 11:04p
Subj: Re: Star Control                        Refer: NONE
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Hi Curtis!


 On dark and windy Monday January 17 1994, Curtis Burisch bellowed:

 GMJ>> I've come across lots of MODs ripped from this game, Star
 GMJ>> Control (2?) but I had never heard of the game itself before.
 CB> I just heard about it about 10 minutes ago!!! I'll be getting it on
 CB> Tuesday.

Way cool, So I guess it isn't on CD.... Ah, well too bad... I'll pop in
sometime and get it, thanX in advance.

To all out there, any info on Video 4 Windows yet? Also interested in talking
to people who are familiar with the standard UUENCODE and who wish to exchange
small files overseas or locally, from CD's or otherwise. Anything goes, get in
touch!

TTYL......... Raver
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From: STEAN SNYMAN                           Number: 12434
  To: DAVE WONG                                Date: 01/17/94  8:57a
Subj: Return to zork cd 4 sale                Refer: NONE
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Hello Dave!

11 Jan 94 12:19, Dave Wong wrote to Stean Snyman:

 DW> You get the joke book at the intersection where jack in the box
 DW> clown is at. Witch Itach is at where the boat ben rents to you
 DW> leads you.  Ben is at where you turn facing the lower bridge in
 DW> town.  you should be able to go left from there.  Yes I do have
 DW> net mail. Try 1:343/49  Dave Wong. Later.

Reply in Netmail to 1:343/49...

Adios
Stean

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From: STEAN SNYMAN                           Number: 12435
  To: JOHN ULLMER                              Date: 01/17/94  8:59a
Subj: seventh guest                           Refer: NONE
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Hello John!

11 Jan 94 15:47, John Ullmer wrote to Stean Snyman:


 JU> Don't know if you've gotten to this point or not yet, but let
 JU> me give you a warning about two FALSE clues that provided.  One is for
 JU> the caskets at the end of the maze; the other is for the painting
 JU> of Stauf (in a room that can only be accessed by going_through_
 JU> the bottom of the main staircase.

So THATS how you get there! :)  Thanks...

 JU> In both cases there is a 9 block puzzle, 3 X 3.  The clue says
 JU> that _touching_ any item will change any of the items ADJACENT
 JU> to it, but NOT DIAGONAL to ith.  That's NOT TRUE!

I noticed at the cascets..  But I have to do the maze again as I solved that
puzzle in a earlier save-game, but did a lot of hard work after that so That I
propably do the mze again (it'll be easier :)...

 JU> Personally, I'm getting bored with the same ol' same ol' puzzle
 JU> types: checkerboards and mazes.  The piano was the first different
 JU> puzzle I've encountered.  I think Virgin did a lousy of job of
 JU> providing variety.

I agree...  But they did a lowsy job on the piano anyway..  Stupid puzzle, SOOO
easy...  but SOOO long..  I learned the song to myself on piano on 'bout 30
secs, and the puzzle took about 10 to complete...

You got anything on the Slime-ball microscope episode?..  I'm stuck there and
on the flipping bricks of the house pic....

Adios
Stean

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From: MIKE CONVRY                            Number: 12436
  To: GABRIEL KLYBER                           Date: 01/18/94  1:43a
Subj: Lucas Arts board                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Could I have the number? I need to get a copy of the Rebel Assault
patch.

   OLX 3.01 31-0440   Is this tagline really necessary?

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From: SHANNON BLACKBURN                      Number: 12437
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 01/19/94  8:02p
Subj: Good ShareWare CD                       Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No

MS> If you'd like our current catalog, you can either download it from our
MS> BBS @ 509-457-0206, or freq "STARCAT.ZIP" from 1:3407/101.

Over a week ago, I crashed a netmail message to the above address.
I am interested in ordering the Nature Graphics I disc and have run into
an apparent problem.  I freq'ed STARCAT.ZIP, however, whomever put that archive
together neglected several things: while the Nature Graphics disc
is listed and highlighted as new, it is not included in either the NEW file
or the MASTER.LST file.  Furthermore, there is no order number listed.  Is this
disc still available, and if so, please respond with the correct
order number and a full description of the disc so I may verify that it
is the one I want.

Thank you.

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From: CHRISTOPH STEINECKE                    Number: 12438
  To: ALLE                                     Date: 01/14/94 10:29p
Subj: Paramount Movie Select                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hallo !


A Few Questions about that CD !

How good is it (compared to Microsoft Cinemania 94)

How much space is occpupied on the CD ?

How many Movies are listed ?

How many Biographies are listed ?

What features does it have ?

How much does it cost ?

Which is the latest version and from which date is it ?


I hope somebody out there, having the CD , can answer those questions
for me !

It's because i recently got Cinemania but can't get info on many
Characters and movies, so I thought about buying the Movie Select !

Bye
 Chris


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From: CHRISTOPH STEINECKE                    Number: 12439
  To: ANDREW DONARUMO                          Date: 01/16/94 10:48p
Subj: Re: CD ROM STUFF                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Andrew Donarumo@1:141/670 meinte am 14.01.94
zum Thema "CD ROM STUFF":

AD>wht is the BEST CD-ROM GAME??????!!!!!!?!?!?!??
   INDY and the Fate of Atlantis (Full Talkie Version)
AD>How MUCH?
   depends, about 40$
AD>thanx
AD>Andrew THE SMART


Bye
 Chris


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From: CHRISTOPH STEINECKE                    Number: 12440
  To: MICHAEL DAUM                             Date: 01/16/94 10:53p
Subj: Re: LARRY 6 ON CD                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Michael Daum@1:234/2 meinte am 13.01.94
zum Thema "LARRY 6 ON CD":

MD>Does anyone know if there is a big difference in Leisure Suit Larry 6 on
MD>CD than on disk.
MD>
MD>I know that titles like Kings Quest have more animation and have actors
MD>talking out loud instead of having to read.
MD>
MD>Is Larry 6 the same?

   All Sierra CD ROM Versions are that way !

Bye
 Chris


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From: CHRISTOPH STEINECKE                    Number: 12441
  To: BOB BREED                                Date: 01/16/94 11:01p
Subj: Re: GREAT PHOTO VIEWER !                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Bob Breed@1:202/1010 meinte am 14.01.94
zum Thema "GREAT PHOTO VIEWER !":

CS>> Since everybody is talking about Photo CD and Viewing Programs
CS>> I want to recomend a great viewer Program.

CS>> It is called _Personal Photo Viewer_ and runs under Windows.

CS>> It is much better than Kodak oder Tempra Photo Access, because
CS>> it is really fast in loading the images,

CS>> you can run a SlideShow you can choose the Slideshow like
CS>> 1.2.3.4.5.6.....100
CS>> or
CS>> 100.99.98.97......0
CS>> or
CS>> 5.78.2.55.48.75

CS>> The Picure is in Full Screen (just like you would watch a GIF
CS>> und VPIC), but of course due to the resolutions you miss a small
CS>> part of the Window , if you're running under 640*480, but I guess
CS>> most people do , since the normal VGA Cards only do True Colour
CS>> in that mode, but anyway Windows is 640*480 and the picture
CS>> is 768*512, so you can figure out what is missing, but it doesn't
CS>> bother at all.

CS>> I paid for the CD (which includes 24 Photos) 30,- DM, which is about
CS>> 17,-$

CS>> If anyone is intereset heres the adress of the company, which made the
CS>> programm :

CS>> Software Dynamics Gmbh
CS>> Am Fallturm 5
CS>> 28359 Bremen, Germany
CS>> Telefon : [phone]
CS>> FAX     : [phone]
CS>> Hot-Line: 049-0421-219884

CS>> The Programm is about 1MB long, an runs fine with 4MB RAM !

BB>    Jeeze, this sounds like what I've been looking for -- are you
BB>going to have a US agent distribute it???

   Well I have nothing to do with that company, so I can't be of
   any help there, but since the instructions on how to use the
   product are given in English,German and French I guess it must
   be available in english speaking countries.

   I still can't imagine that no Software Company came up with a product
   that ca present a full scree slideshow, shouldn't be to hard to
   program.

   I tell you what, I'll phone the company (since I live in Germany)
   asking  them if they distribute the product in the US, and check with
   you after that, o.k. !

Bye
 Chris


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From: PETER JANSSENS                         Number: 12442
  To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                       Date: 01/20/94  2:07p
Subj: ARCHIVAL CD DEVELOPMENT                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 >>A HAM-Astronomy-Misc Hobbie CD could be an example. I doubt any one of these
 >>topics alone could fill an entire 600mb + cd with quality,reasonably up to d
 >>ate files.

 >  QRZ Ham Radio manages to fill a disc with JUST Ham Radio files - and
 > they aren't "junk" used for padding....

Unfortunately enough, the QRH Ham Radio does not contain anything in a usable
files.bbs format and it has zillions of different directories so putting the
thing online takes ages and ages. It's a nightmare.

Cheerz, Peter
        [e-mail]

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From: PETER JANSSENS                         Number: 12443
  To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                       Date: 01/20/94  2:10p
Subj: KODAK PHOTOCD                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 >>    I also have another concern -- how long is the CD disk going  to last?

 >  I still have my original Audio CD - which is just shy of 11 years old.
 >  A CD-ROM should last JUST as long as a "normal" CD (likely won't last
 > as long as the Mobile Fidelity "gold" CDs, though)....

This may sound dumb... the maximum life of a cd disk is greatly dependant on
whether you smoke or not.

I used to smoke a lot and my cds wore out 'fairly fast' (12 months) even though
I regularly cleaned them. I quit smoking and my cds don't even have to be
cleaned at all...

It's a matter of pollution in your computer room, I'm afraid.

Cheerz, Peter
        [e-mail]

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From: PETER JANSSENS                         Number: 12444
  To: LAURIE BATT                              Date: 01/20/94  2:14p
Subj: Dupe Chart?                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 > Try Cream of the Crop II . I dont have a copy but from what I have read
 > it would be a good choice.

It's excellent, just like the Powerbox 2 and the Software Vault Gold.

Cheerz, Peter
        [e-mail]

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From: JAMES POLLOCK                          Number: 12445
  To: NICK ALLAN                               Date: 01/19/94 11:41a
Subj: Re: infocom game cd's                   Refer: NONE
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 -=> Quoting Nick Allan to All <=-

 NA> I'm looking for a cd that has the Infocom games on it.  I remember
 NA> reading somewhere that all the infocom games were put on to a cd or
 NA> two. If you know anything about this cd let me know.

 NA> Do you get the hint booklets etc with it?

The CD's you are looking for are "Lost Treasures of Infocom" and "Lost
Treasures of Infocom II".  The first does include maps and hint books,
while the second does not--most of the second volume DO have built-in
clues, however.  The Vol II works with BOTH PC and MAC.  (I have the
floppy version of vol I, so it might also...but I don't know.)

Volume I includes:  Infidel, Lurking Horror, Suspect, Ballyhoo, Hitch-
Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy, Suspended, Starcross, Deadline, Witness,
Moonmist, Planetfall, Stationfall, Enchanter, Sorcerer, Spellbreaker,
Zork 1, Zork 2, Zork 3, Zork Zero, and Beyond Zork.

Volume I includes:  Border Zone, A Mind Forever Voyaging, Plundered
Hearts, Bureaucracy, Cutthroats, Hollywood Hijinx, Seastalker,
Sherlock, Wishbringer, Nord and Bert, and Trinity.  The CD-ROM also
includes Arthur, Journey, and Shogun which are NOT in the floppy
version.

Leather Goddesses of Phobos is not in either collection.

Most of the extra goodies that came with the individual games are no
longer part of the package...the ones that are part of the copy
protection are reproduced in a paper book.  (for example, the student
ID card from Lurking Horror is now just a page in the manual.)


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From: JAMES POLLOCK                          Number: 12446
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 01/19/94 11:46a
Subj: Re: Used CD-Roms                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Jim Lambert to All <=-

 JL> Night Owls 8............................$14.00
 JL> So Much Screenware......................$15.00

I might be interested in the NO 8 if it's the newer version of it.
If so, I'd also be interested in the SMS disc.


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From: JOSEPH THOMAS                          Number: 12447
  To: STEVE MANN                               Date: 01/20/94 10:01a
Subj: encarta 1994 how much                   Refer: NONE
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 SM> We have sold out of the MS special price version of
 SM> Encarta 1994 (though we are yet to have this stock
 SM> delivered).  We were selling it for $179 (RRP was $199
 SM> outlet around $180 but I suggest you move quickly
 SM> because the normal price would not please you.

 SM> Happy bargain hunting.
          $79.00  In the U S A  at most of the software vendors.
     since Dec 93. sorry  You missed the sales, which is still on... Tnx.


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From: JOSEPH THOMAS                          Number: 12448
  To: NICK ALLAN                               Date: 01/20/94 10:07a
Subj: encarta 1994 how much                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 NA> Hello All!

 NA> Can someone give me a price for the Encarta 1994 cd in Aust Dollars.

        Currently $79.00+  USA  =  $120.00 (approx) your place + customs duty??


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From: DONNIE PEARSON                         Number: 12449
  To: ANTONIO BIANCHI                          Date: 01/20/94 11:44p
Subj: Re: !free Cd catalog!                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello,
   I am interested in your catalog. Thanks for the info. Mail to:
Donnie Pearson
P.O. Box 1432
Easley, SC 29641-1432
Thanks again!
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From:                                        Number: 12450
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Subj:                                         Refer: NONE
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From: JOE RINEHART                           Number: 12451
  To: DON GESER                                Date: 01/20/94 12:39a
Subj: Available CD's                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 >           Jerry Thomson wrote v
 >|>        Does anyone out thier know of a Christian files only CD? If so,
 >|> please respond!
 > |The California Collection has Christian Files on CDROM.  The
 > |Collection use to go by the name of Alpha and Omega.  You can get it
 > from
 > |Joe Rinehart who is on this echo.  It is listed in Joes catalog for
 > $11.
 > |80.  About half of the files are Christian and the other half are
 > regular
 > |bbs type files like spreadsheets, utilities, etc.  It is BBS ready if
 > you
 > |are a sysop of a BBS.  If not, you can still use it and he has others
 > that
 > |are not for just bbs's..
    I just double checked the price of the California Collection to make sure I
quoted it right in an e-mail message to Jerry.  The normal user price is $11.70
and for sysops we offer it at $10.70.  Of course there are shipping charges &
C.O.D. if applicable.  For $3.00 additional we are able to use FedEx with
prompt 2nd service to most areas, less shipping damage, & trackable shipping;-)
    Thanks for your interest in this collection.  If you are interested in
seeing the collection in operation, call Julia Sidebottom in Michigan at (810)
795-5829 fidonet 1:2202/2.  I think she might have it on-line, as she was the
one that brought the title to my attention.  Hope she doesn't mind my
reference;-)



Regards,
Joe Rinehart
config.sys
P.O.Box 27
Kent, Ohio 44240-0001
v.216.296.4446

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From: JOE RINEHART                           Number: 12452
  To: DAVID SILVER                             Date: 01/20/94  1:17a
Subj: Cd-rom Drives+                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 > Hi Jos,
 > Sunday January 09 1994 15:50, Jos Chrispijn wrote to Joe Rinehart:
 >  JC> Hello Joe,
 >  JR>> ********* Refurbished  Hitachi Model 3600 CD-ROM DRIVES $130
 >  JR>> ********* ********* Refurbished  Hitachi Model 3500 CD-ROM DRIVES
 >  JR>> $120 ********* ********* Refurbished SCSI NEC Model 36   CD-ROM
 >  JR>> DRIVES $130 ********* These units are also available needing
 >  JC> Joe, what is refurbished ?
 >  JC> I'm interested in NEC, but need a little more input...
 > For your info, Terry Blout is selling the 3600 drives for 99 dollars.
 > You might want to leave him a message if you are interested.
 > David
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    David,
    I sure hate to be rude to anyone, but it appears that he was asking a
question to me in regard to the NEC model 36 which is an SCSI cd-rom drive.
Many people have different systems & the Hitachi  drives are not compatible
with them all.  I personnaly do a lot of business with Terry  & would also
recommend him for both his disc's & drives.  In fact I have bought drives from
him & plan to continue.  As for the NEC's, they are faster drives then either
of the Hitachi models being sold refurbished.  We have stopped taking orders on
both the Hitachi model 3500 & the NEC model 36 until we have more of them
calibrated.  It is easier to sell them, then to refurbish them:-) Please have
consideration when responding to messages addressed to someone else, by at
least including the other added expenses in making a mail order purchase.  For
instance, we can ship a drive FedEx for $10.00 due to our high volume.  Our
International FedEx rates are due to be negotiated on Friday.



Sincerely,
Joe Rinehart

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From: JOE RINEHART                           Number: 12453
  To: DAVID SILVER                             Date: 01/20/94  1:28a
Subj: Cd-rom Drives+                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 > Hi Joe,
 > Tuesday January 11 1994 06:46, Joe Rinehart wrote to All:
 >  JR> ********* Refurbished  Hitachi Model 3600 CD-ROM DRIVES $130 *********
 > Isn't an ad EVERYDAY a bit much?  I think so...
 > David
    David,

    I'm within the echo rules to the best of my knowledge.  The fact is,
several other dealers run their same adds much more often.  If you don't wish
to read my material that is also an option.  As for daily, you are welcome to
take over our international postage & direct E-mail costs, answering questions
and passing information outside of the net as not to pass our costs on to
sysops worldwide.  I have never responded to a CD-ROM inquiry, via echo-mail
when other options were available.  I like to think our posts offer lower costs
buying alternatives to the readers of these echos.



Sincerely,
Joe Rinehart
config.sys
P.O.Box 27
Kent, Ohio 44240-0001
v.216)296.9831
v.216)296.4446

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From: JOE RINEHART                           Number: 12454
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/20/94  5:41a
Subj: !discounted Fedex shippin               Refer: NONE
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    It pleases us to announce that due to our growing shipping volume,
FedEXpress has become our preferred courier.  USPS Priority was our
preferred method, however,  recent performance such as week-long delays
and damaged jewel cases made us look elsewhere. We contacted all the
other couriers to see who would offer our customers the best deal.
FedEX won the bid by allowing us to offer their economy service, which
is as close to guaranteed two-day service as anyone will offer, for only
$3.00 additional over USPS priorty rates.  Of course, we will continue
to offer your preferred shipper, as we have accounts with all of the
major couriers. config.sys, Inc./ voice: 216.296.9831 data:216.296.2244

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From: JOE RINEHART                           Number: 12455
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/20/94  5:41a
Subj: Cd-rom Drives+                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

********* Refurbished  Hitachi Model 3600 CD-ROM DRIVES $130 *********
Hitachi model 3500 & NEC model 36 are available needing work @50% off
Catalog of 1,200+ CD-Titles and hardware products available-CDLIST.ZIP
           Internet: [e-mail]
Fido 1:157/479 - RBBS 8:965/13 - Kesher 18:711/176 - WWIV 2@2659
Joe Rinehart / config.sys, Inc.     Voice: [phone]  -  24 hours
P.O. Box 27                         Data/Fax: [phone]
Kent, Ohio 44240-0001               >>>INTERNATIONAL ORDERS WELCOME<<<

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From: JOE RINEHART                           Number: 12456
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/20/94  5:42a
Subj: !free Cd catalog!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

For 1,500+ CD-Titles & lowest prices, get our NEW catalog...
CATALOG FREQ: cdlist.zip, descript.zip (or) MAJIC word CONFIG gets both
The Blue Parrot CD-ROM SUPPORT RBBS offers non-backboned echo config
for daily cdlist updates, news, game reviews, & more.
All config.sys cd-rom support files are available to all NEW users!

Fido: 1:157/479 - RBBS: 8:965/13 - Kesher: 18:711/176 - WWIV: 2@2659
Joe Rinehart / config.sys, Inc.|Voice: [phone] or 296.4446 24hrs
P.O. Box 27, Kent, Ohio 44240  |BBS/Fax: [phone] - 23hrs 16.8k ZYX
Internet: [e-mail]|>>>>>>INTERNATIONAL ORDERS WELCOME<<<<<

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From: SCOTT BATSON                           Number: 12457
  To: ALL                                      Date: 01/19/94 10:55p
Subj: Cd-rom's                                Refer: NONE
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@ORIGIN :ODIELINK MUSIC BBS - [phone] - SB/ADLIB SUPPORT!     N
I have a very big question i would like to ask all of you out there.  I
bought a Sound Blaster Pro this past summer and I am now looking to buy
a CD-ROM, "double speed and internal".  I was wondering if anybody could
tell me the best CD-ROM that i could get which is compatible that is on
the market today and for about how much it would cost me.
                                                Thanks a lot
                                                  Scott


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From: JIM CLEMENTS                           Number: 12458
  To: JAN HOLZNAGEL                            Date: 01/20/94  8:26a
Subj: Re: MULTIMEDIA                          Refer: NONE
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JM> Hi!  I'm planning to enter the "Multimedia" world, justifying it by
JM> supplying  access to an encyclopedia for my 10 year old daughter and 7
JM> year old son.

JH>Hello Jack,
JH>if you want to enter multimedia just for your encyclopedia, then please
JH>forget it at once. I have seen such an application at a friend of mine
JH>and I must say that it's a nice game. But it's not an reliable
JH>encyclopedia like the one I have in shelf.

Jan, I have to disagree with you. I think cdrom encyclopedias are
indeed useful additions to most homes. I have all three of the
main titles, Grolier, Compton's and Encarta and use Grolier the
most.

You only saw one at a friend's and thought it was a nice game?

Perhaps it was the way it was displayed. I can show someone
Encarta or Compton's and easily make it seem like a glitzy
collection of bee sounds and/or pics and videos that are
virtually useless.

Or I could run a demo showing how Grolier will search the
entire text (20+ volumes) for my name and come up with a
couple of hits in a few seconds -- seconds not weeks which
it would take using a paper edition. Those hits were in the
small print bibliographies accompanying the main text -- a
fellow with the same name as mine wrote a couple of bird books.

Search ability and cross-linking are two of electronic
encyclopedia's greatest advantages. Paper versions can't
even come close, especially for people not used to
the process in paper.

Price is another advantage. Grolier sells for more than
$200 in a membership discount store (Sam's Warehouse)
in Niagara Falls, N.Y. The cdrom version (every word,
fewer pics and graphics but with sound and video not
available in the paper version) sells for less
than $60 in BBS nets such as this.

I should mention I'm a print person -- have worked as
a print (paper) journalist for close to 30 years. I
have rooms full of books and cherish them, but if I
want information quickly I will quite often turn to
cdrom.

Are there disadvantages to cdrom versions? Certainly.
First you have to have a computer and cdrom or
CD-I or something similar. Second there aren't as many
pics or graphics. Third the best books (Encyclopedia
Brittanica, Oxford English Dictionary II) either
aren't available or are very expensive.

But there are also "disadvantages" to paper versions.
They take a long time to properly search through for
some types of in-depth info. They don't have sound,
don't have videos. Even the paper version of the
Brit or the OED II are very expensive as well.

I would prefer both paper and cdrom versions of my
major reference works if I could afford them. But
if I had to choose one or the other, I'd pick cdrom.

I don't think just seeing an app at a friend's is a very
fair basis for telling someone interested the product
to avoid it as "unreliable." What did you find not to
be as reliable as your paper veresion.

Also you didn't say what cdrom encyclopedia you saw,
or what encyclopedia you have at home. I *might*
agree a little if you were comparing Encarta (based
on Funk and Wagnall's of supermarket fame) and
your home collection of the Brittanica. But they are
apples and eggs even in the print versions. As are
their prices.

Take another (and longer) look. You might be
surprised.

And no, I don't work for any of the publishers and
I don't sell any of them. Cheers!
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From: MARK WALKER                            Number: 12459
  To: STEVE MANN                               Date: 01/20/94  2:00p
Subj: Beatles - Hard Day's Night              Refer: NONE
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 >  SM> You asked about the Beatles movie "A Hard Day's Night"
 >  SM> Yes we will have the MPC/Windows version and our price is $66.
 >  SM>
 >  SM> I also made some enquiries about publishing rights etc.  Apparently the
 > CD
 >  SM> will no longer be produced and the publishers right to sell it expired
 > at
 >  SM> the end of November 1993.  Distributors and retailers may sell it until
 >  SM> stocks are exhausted.  I guess this means we'll run out soon.

Hi Steve,

Who do you work for? I talked to Voyager, the company that puts out the CD and
they new nothing about this. BTW, I purchased my copy of the MPC/Windows
version at Best Buy for $27.95.

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From: GARY STIMPSON                          Number: 12460
  To: JOHN RACKLEY                             Date: 01/19/94  1:41p
Subj: Re: CD32 Titles 3/3                     Refer: NONE
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In a message of 16 Jan 94 John Rackley wrote to me:

 JR> Thanks for that list, I will pass it along to the local Amiga users who
 JR> are very interested in this information.

Spread!  Spread!  Spread!  Let the word out about CD32.  :-)

Gary

... WET TAGLINE.  DON'T TOUCH.

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From: SAM FIGUEROA                           Number: 12461
  To: THE LAWMAN                               Date: 01/19/94  2:40p
Subj: Question                                Refer: NONE
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TL>-> Speaking
TL>-> of CD Roms, I have a problem in which I have been unable to solve eve
TL>-> since I've had my CD Rom.  I have:  A:\  (3.5" drive)
TL>->                                     B:\  (5.25" drive)
TL>->                                     C:\  (345MB hard drive)
TL>->                                     D:\  (245MB hard drive)
TL>->                                     E:\  (Ram Drive)
TL>->                                     F:\  (CD Rom)
TL>->
TL>-> I want my CD Rom to be drive E and my Ram Drive to be drive F.  I hav
TL>-> tried changing the attributes on the CD Rom device driver but the Ram
TL>-> Drive continues to force itself as drive E and displaces the CD Rom
TL>-> drive as drive F.  Also, I have tried loading the CD Rom device drive
TL>-> before the Ram Drive but it continues to force itself as the drive
TL>-> letter of the CD Rom.  According to the MS Dos manual, the Ram Drive
TL>-> suppose to become the drive letter after all physical devices.  Why
TL>-> doesn't it treat the CD Rom as a physical device?  Have you encounter
TL>-> this and is there a solution?
TL>->
TL>-> Amanda
TL>->
TL>->
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TL>You didn't put your config.sys and autoexec.bat settings here, but I
TL>will assume this and see if it ain't true.

TL>You have Device=C:\DOS\EMM386.EXE (and your ram statement and any other
TL>settings ) probably near the top of the loading order of your config.sys
TL>and then lower down on that list you have your Device=C:\DEV\MTMCDS.SYS
TL>statement near the bottom of your config.sys statement, thats why its
TL>loading your ram drive before your cdrom drive. I'm not really hip yet
TL>on ram drives but assuming you are probably loading some of the drivers
TL>in high memory, you'll have to have the ram drive first even if you use
TL>qemm. If somebody knows different, let her know so I'll know.


TL>--- WM v3.01/93-0705
TL> * Origin: Emerald City [phone] 7 gigs, 5 nodes  (1:116/39.0)
 Just load your CD-ROM drive in the config.sys before your
 Ramdrive.sys........That should do it, let me know if ya get it fixed!
                                Sam Figueroa

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From: SAM FIGUEROA                           Number: 12462
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 01/19/94  2:53p
Subj: Used CD-Roms                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

JL>I have the following slightly used CD-Roms for sale.  Most of them were
JL>only used for testing purposes.  I'll accept Checks & Visa/Mastercard.

JL>Night Owls 8............................$14.00
JL>Night Owls 9............................$17.00
JL>Night Owls 10...........................$22.00
JL>Night Owls Games........................$15.00
JL>Night Owls Graphics.....................$15.00
JL>Software Vault 2........................$14.00
JL>Up All Night Shareware...................$8.00
JL>AB20 Amiga.............................. $8.00
JL>Microsoft Works.........................$32.00
JL>Giga Games..............................$12.00
JL>Tech Arsenal............................$17.00
JL>So Much Screenware......................$15.00
JL>Guiness Disc of Records 1993............$18.00
JL>Precision Mapping.......................$50.00
JL>Prophone 1993 Business Directory........$12.00

JL>Jim Lambert
JL>[phone]
JL>Rt 3 Box 794-B
JL>Ashford, AL 36312
JL>BBS [phone]

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 Jim,
        How about $10 for NightOwl Graphics or $20 for both NightOwl
        Graphics and NightOwl Games. Thanks, Is Up all Night Shareware
        any good? What about the Guiness disc?
                Thanks a bunch,
                                        Sam Figueroa
                                        Sam's Software
                                        [phone]

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From: SCOTT BENNETT                          Number: 12463
  To: DEBORAH HAESELER                         Date: 01/19/94  8:41p
Subj: CD-ROM Driver                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

->   Does anyone out there have a Panasonic CR562B? I'm asking because
-> I'm seriously wondering if